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Discussion in 'U.K.' started by showmet, Sep 19, 2004.

  1. Koolaid

    Koolaid Member

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    Age doesn't matter at all if you are in love...Me and the girlfriend have a difference of at least 6 months in age and we get along just fine..:) No seriously age shouldn't matter one bit....

    This whole announcement thing has to be a piss take though..If it isn't does it not strike anyone as all a bit pretentious....or is it just me??
     
  2. JOsie

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    i much prefer the quote off friends...

    "you're 18...she's 44. When you're 36, she'll be 88"
     
  3. Alomiakoda

    Alomiakoda Boniface McSporran

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    That's the point :p
     
  4. showmet

    showmet olen tomppeli

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    When something feels this right, how can it be wrong, eh Bob?
     
  5. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    Here Here! I'm right behind you!

    *pinches Jon's Bum*

    oops soz Bob;) :p
     
  6. JOsie

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    it was a quote from joey...which would explain it...
     
  7. Alomiakoda

    Alomiakoda Boniface McSporran

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    Exactly! :)
     
  8. DoktorAtomik

    DoktorAtomik Closed For Business

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    Yup. That's what I used to tell my dog as it was licking the Chappie of my john thomas :p
     
  9. showmet

    showmet olen tomppeli

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    I'm a bit annoyed by this comment. We choose to publicly declare our love and this is all you have to say?:mad:
     
  10. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    Are you two still coming over this weekend? :)
     
  11. rainbow dew

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    ok, so let me explain myself then...... i know age is just relative and is just a number believe me, and no sar there isn't a magic number either that makes it 'right'. but.... i don't believe a 16 year old should be able to go out with someone that much older than herself, i say this through my own experience yes, and if thatmakes me judgemental then so be it. taking the fact i know these people out of the picture there(read that last sentence before comment please john!), what the hell does someone that age want with a 16 year old girl?? well??????? answer seems obvious. i think we need to protect people of that age whether they want it or not, i wish someone had protected me at that age and then perhaps i wouldn't have got so fucked up by a guy much older than me. disagree with me? no worries, thats my experience and if its judgemental then hey i have reasons for it being so......
    namaste
    x x x
     
  12. DoktorAtomik

    DoktorAtomik Closed For Business

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    Let me just say I largely agree with your underlying point that a 28yr old bloke and a 16yr old girl are not likely to have a relationship of equals. However:

    There's no way you can control this. Not without a 'cut off' point that would be impossible to define and entirely ignored. How many under-16s worry about the legality of underage sex?

    Again, I agree that this sort of relationship is open to exploitation by the older person, but is it outside the realms of possibility that the younger person might be in it for the sex as well? What would your view be if the genders were reversed?

    How?

    Like I said, I do agree with your underlying point though. I think if a 28yr old bloke wants a relationship with a 16yr old girl he's either deluded or has issues. It's a shame some people have dismissed that issue so quickly.
     
  13. showmet

    showmet olen tomppeli

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    You try and stop us!

    And may I just point out that Bob is the one bullying me for sex in this relationship. It's actually making me feel slightly uncomfortable. But she says there's nothing wrong in it and that I will come to enjoy it.
     
  14. DoktorAtomik

    DoktorAtomik Closed For Business

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    I'm on the fence in many ways, but I feel you're both making some pretty massive generalisations, and the truth lies somewhere in-between. So, some thoughts.....

    The problem is, whatever the intentions, the older person is almost certain to abuse their position. It's inevitable. Even if it's only through the younger person deferring to their judgement. With an age gap that large (or more importantly where one person is so young), it's impossible for the relationship to be truly equal.

    Like it or not, 16 is right next door to childhood. 19 is a world away from 16, even though the years are few. It's the difference between some experience of the adult world and next to none. I've met Nomy, and she seems young. However I've never met a 16yr old who seemed like anything other than just out of childhood.

    surely its better for a 16 year old to practice sex with an older experienced man or woman than with a boy or girl of the same age ..[/quote]Woah! SO not true!!! Learning about sex at a young age is best done with a partner of similar experience. You can learn together with no fears of inadequacy, knowing you're both undertaking a journey of discovery. You make sex sound more technical than emotional.


     
  15. DoktorAtomik

    DoktorAtomik Closed For Business

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    Like I said, it doesn't have to be conscious.
    It's a natural result of the disparity between their ages. Let me put it to you another way - would you agree that a relationship between a 40yr old man and a 14yr old girl was ok?

    No. I'm saying an older man is not a suitable partner for someone just emerging from childhood.

    I think that's partly true, yes. As for the other factors, that's a massive area for speculation. Primitive desire to be looked after? Looking for a father figure? I dunno. Take your pick.

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    No, not at all. I'm saying that a 19yr old is much better placed to make an informed decision and a 16yr old is likely to suffer more serious emotional consequences from making a mistake.

    Me too. I wouldn't fuck 'em though.

    I entirely agree. When talking about the age isse though, it's pretty much impossible to comment without generalising. However, I'm talking in terms of probability, and the probability is that a 16yr old will not be able to have an equal relationship with a man 12 years her senior. If I was talking in absolutes then I wouldn't be on the fence, which I believe I mentioned was my position right at the start? ;)

    LMAO, find me a 28yr old who's a virgin and I'll show you someone who needs therapy ;)

    I'm skipping a lot of your comments because I think I covered them by explaining that I am generalising. I was attempting to inject some issues for consideration. You rejected Nomy's reaction out of hand and over-reacted in just the same way as she had done. You're both adopting polarised positions in a debate that features a multitude of grey areas.
     
  16. Koolaid

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    I still think the whole announcing your love on here is a bit weird....So your in love...Good for you I am glad, but why annouce it on the website....As a whole new thread...Just seems a bit odd....


    As for the whole 16 year old debate..I am 27 and I could not go out with a 16 year old....Is too much growing up to do in that time....I am nothing like I was when I was 16...Am not saying 16 year olds are immature just that you are 16, and at 16 you are only just starting out....I don't know shit at 27 but at 16 I knew even less......Also would feel like a bit of a perv to be honest....Age should not make a diference as I said earlier but 16 is just a kid....

    Sorry for writing 16 so many times :)
     
  17. Alomiakoda

    Alomiakoda Boniface McSporran

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    Oi!

    Don't be so mean about 16 year olds :p We're not all immature little kids you know.

    And I really don't know where this idea that I'm sweet and innocent has come from [​IMG] It's quite a shock to me.
     
  18. the_river_daughter

    the_river_daughter rebel scum

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    i think people generalise too much about the maturity of 16 year olds... sure some of them are right royal pains in the ass and not fit to run a piss up in a brewery never mind have a serious sexual relationship :p but when i wsa 16 i was seeing someone much older than me, it wasnt a perverted thing, i just dont think i could have coped with 16 year old boys!!
     
  19. Koolaid

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    As I said I am not having a go at 16 year olds..Being 16 is brilliant and some of the best idea's come from people that age, but at 16 your still a kid you shouldn't be with someone who is 28....Man they will drag you down with their world weariness if nothing else :).....You should be experiencing that first relationship and all that with someone else around your age.....Being 16 is so ace don't spoil it by growing up too quick, which being in a mature relationship can only accelerate...At 16 you should be out arsing about and running amok..Not getting into relationships with 28 year olds..Never said you were sweet and innocent, I certainly wasn't at 16.....

    Thats my only really my point
     
  20. Alomiakoda

    Alomiakoda Boniface McSporran

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    erm...

    a) You do realise this is all a big piss take right? :p

    b) If this was a real relationship it wouldn't be my first. It would be about my 3rd or 4th :p Ok now I just sound like a slut [​IMG]
     
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