Hilary Clinton and Barack Obama

Since its looking like it'll be down to these two, who will you vote for? Which do you think is better?

 

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

Check out the truth before you start thinking that there is something to this silly "body count".

As to the original question, I'm not really sure and I have to decide SOON! I guess my priority is whoever is most electable. I'm thinking that may be Obama. A lot of people seem to have an irrational hatred of Clinton-as evidenced by the above post.

 

I wouldn't vote for either of those CFR-controlled corporate puppets. Then again, I don't play the game of voting. Regardless of which one wins, it won't make a whole heck of a lot of difference because they work for the same establishment.

 

People will choose race over gender, 74% of the people in the U.S are white.

 

I won't vote. Well, I'll "throw away" my vote on some third party candidate.

-Hilary- A shady corrupt political elite who is working for a personal/corporate agenda. Has no principles and will say anything to get votes. Supports NAFTA. Won't release any of her documents from her time as first lady, or even her college thesis (why?). VOTED FOR THE WAR!!!!!! And there's more....

-Obama- A socialist washington insider who happens to look different and says "Change" a lot. Still a corporate bitch and so on.

 

lmao! :hah33: FedUp, you got busted big time!

 

Not really. Snopes also claims that a plane had to have hit the Pentagon (despite no evidence of this) and that fluoride and aspartame is good for you.

But FedUp is right here. There have been an unusual number of "mysterious" deaths surrounding Bill Clinton, and this goes all the way back to Mena, Arkansas, when Clinton was overseeing a massive CIA cocaine trafficking operation with Daddy Bush in the mid 1980s. (There was a good book written about this called Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA by Terry Reid, a member of Air Force Intelligence, who witnessed these operations firsthand.) Clinton and Daddy Bush are like peas in a pod, and they have been good buddies for a very long time. There is no difference between the two, so it always makes me laugh to see the brainwashed lefties defend Clinton like he is a good guy. They don't know the half about this guy.

 

But of course you and your conspiracy theorists must know every detail about how everyone is actually evil and planning to get you right?

 

There's really two ways of looking at things. You can swallow the reality you're expected to believe from so-called "official sources." Or, you can research and use your mind, coming to conclusions that differ from what the mainstream media wants you to think. (Right or wrong, they are YOUR conclusions and not those of the mass indoctrination machine that serves only to feed you your opinions, which you will then parrot without question.)

It's funny nobody is as critical of the bullshit they're fed by the corporate media as they are my "conspiracy theories." You don't even look into the things I talk about, yet I'm already a "conspiracy theorist" to you. But I bet you don't use the same discernment when it comes to the media telling you what to think. Why is that?

BTW, the term "conspiracy theory" was divised by a think tank in the 60s, as a way to marginalize and discredit anyone who questions things which differ from the consensus instilled by the media.

 

i have a feeling that is Obama wins, there will be a huge revolt from the racist dumbasses, and something bad might happen... even if I don't like Obama, i hate that some people aren't voting for him simply because he is black without actually looking at his issues. Same with Hilary being a woman.
We need to have all the candidates do a bagism election!! eat chocolate cake under sheets and disuss their issues while we decide who to vote for.

 

i personally don't know anyone who will not be voting for them because of race and gender, it's their policies that are a problem. of course those same people could be lying and are closet racists and sexists, who knows?

 

So far this has only been proven true by voters in South Carolina where the majority of black voters chose Obama, and by Oprah (of all people). In Iowa, a state that is like 94% white, Obama did quite well. So it seems that some Americans are less inclined to vote along racial lines than are others. But the only way Obama can hope to be elected is indeed if he can appeal to wwhite voters. Thankfully most of white people in America are NOT racists. Being white is not an act of racism. Thinking it is would be textbook bigotry.

Ultimately I doubt Obama has a chance simply because he's so new to all of this. Oh I know he has a LOT of local experience, but he doesn't have a lot of national experience. Only a person who understands the big picture needs to be president. And you gain that, in the eyes of voters, by running things like city and state governments. Obama would do well to concede and try to sidle up as Clinton's VP. Then he'd be more qualified.

Clinton is going to have a hard time against either Romney or McCain. I doub't anyone else makes it through the republican filter. I personally think McCain has no chance. He was owned by commies for a LONG time, so he's too "Manchurian" to be president.

Romney has a history of fiscal turnaround. He also has a statewide insurance plan under his belt. So he has some advantages. But to be honest, I think all 4 of them have questionable qualifications in some aspect of the game. I don't see a slam dunk choice and I haven't in many many years. Just a long series of compromises and then years of the Bush/Clinton family feud. Which is the main reason I think Romney will pull it off; Americans are tired of the 2 "Royal" families.

CF

 

Vote Cthulhus 2008!

 

soo fucking true... prolly a more detrimental stigma than "black"....

I'm voting hillary cuz I think she gonna win, and I'm voting for the winner cuz my vote don't count. It just makes me look good when the person I vote for actually wins.

 

Although I am too young to vote, I am adament on the election of obama. He, I believe, has the ability to turn around this country like no other candidate can. I believe that Clinton is an arrogant, stuck-up person who will do anything to get elected. She has repeatedly made false claims about Obama which leads to a conclusion that she is misinformed, or willing to tell lies to get elected. Also I believe that Obama's abilities as an orator will prove to be a necessity in the coming 4 years. Let the man speak and he will change people's opinions for the better. He is a change from the normal politics of today and he will be able to put major change in Washington that has not been done for a very long time. As a very liberal person I sincerely despise the Republicans today, however, I believe that Huckabee's Fair Tax is a very good system that should be looked at for whoever becomes President. Clearly, I despise his other ideas in regards to the War and healthcare but that is the one good policy I see out of the Republicans.

so....for those of you who can vote....do what is right...VOTE OBAMA!!!!!

 

Your logic makes baby Jebus cry.

I'm indifferent to Hillary Clinton these days. I've grown sick and bitter listening to her campaign and furtive campaign promises. "Jump-start the economy?" What kind of an ad is that and slogan is that anyway? It makes no sense to me what she is doing or what the USA is doing to itself anymore for that matter. Eh.

 

A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker.
-Buddha

 

i personally like obama. simply BECAUSE he doesn't have the "experience" in politics. we need a leader who doesn't do politics the way it's always been done. he also stands for a lot of the things i'm passionate about. gay/lesbian rights, socialization of healthcare, etc. etc. i think he is very electable, and i think he WILL get elected. i think the younger generation (18-30) are going to play a huge part in this coming election. i think this generation is starting to go, wtf, things aren't going well, the way things have always gone doesn't work, i want something different.

and don't get me started on the republican religious bullshit. the religious pull is getting less and less strong in my opinion, as people are realizing that whether or not someone shares your moral beliefs doesn't make them a good person to lead the country.

 

About as much as the detestation I encompass for the populace voting FOR them because of their race or femininity.

 

Hillary is only less polarizing than GW. I don't think she has a chance at winning b/c people either love her or hate her. There's not too much middle ground, plus I think the country is tired of having the most polarizing president in history- something like 85-90% of Republicans approve of Bush while 10% or less of Democrats approve of him. Independents tend to follow the Democratic trend, around 30% approve of him. Clinton had similar approval ratings (reversed, of course). It is time to find someone who is not so polarizing, and I think Obama would be a much better choice, based on this.

Peace and love