Syrian Rue Extract dosage

I'm ordering Syrian Rue liquid extract (called Harmaline) from IamShaman, and I was wondering if you guys know the human doses that go along with the extract? Just like 10 drops in a glass of water or what? There is only 150 mg of extract in the dropper and it is 5x strength, so I assume it's very strong. (And yet my research shows that 150 mg of pure harmaline is barely enough for one person?) If anyone has experience with it (or Syrian Rue in general) that would be awesome!

P.S. I am doing it on its own, not with other psychedelics.

P.S.S. I am thinking now of just ordering the seeds instead. Should 5 ground seeds mixed with juice be enough?

 

i dont know about 5 seeds. theres not really a number, you kinda do them by grams. 2-3 is a standard dose for its amplifying effect. This is aproximately a teaspoon. If your doing them by themselves for a trip on their own, good luck because youre probably gonna get really sick. Be sure to read erowids maoi guideline for foods to eat so you dont die. I really dont recomend syrian rue unless your using it to amplify some other psych. If you took more than i said you would prob be fine. Ive used it for amplifying san pedro cactus i got off ebay.

 

No offense, but rue's a bunch a crap.

 

Different strokes for different folks, IDL. You don't know what his intentions are. Keep your biased, negative, and not particularly useful comments to yourself.

Morning Bell, just wanted to make sure you are aware that harmaline is an MAOI, and eating certain foods before and after you use that extract can kill you. Please do a Google search to find a list of foods that would be bad to eat with MAOIs.

As for dosage, it is hard to tell. You would be much better off with some syrian rue seeds, which you can use to dose much more accurately.

Peace

 

I hear that 3-6g of plant/seed material is enoug to nearly double a shroom trip, but I haven't tried it. Just a fyi, syrian rue can be deadly if mix with the wrong stuff and cause damage if you even eat the wrong foods with it a hambuger is an example of a food that can cause problems.

J.C

 

Don't take kerbe6's pre-k advice. He/she is a moron. I was joking on my last reply. Anyways......

As soon as you run out the extract you can try using this.-Multiply the percentage(%) of alkaloids(harmaline,etc.) present in syrian rue, which is 2%-6%, with the amount of seeds, in grams. Ex.) You want to obtain the approx. amount of alkaloids(in mgs.) in 4 g. of syrian rue seeds. 2% x 4g. seeds ---> 0.02 x 4g = 0.08g/(harmaline, etc) or 80mg/(harmaline, etc) -------------------------------- 6% x 4g. seeds ---> 0.06 x 4g = 0.24g(harmaline, etc) or 240mg/(harmaline, etc). So you can pretty much get between 80mg - 240mg of harmaline from 4grams of syrian rue seeds. Don't forgot to move the % 2 decimals to the left (128% = 1.28) before multiplying it with the the syrian rue amount. The resulting product can be used as whatever the persons wishes to use it for. Be safe.

 

Holy shit these seeds are small. Like unbelievably small! Am I really only supposed to eat 5 seeds crushed up? Is that it?! I don't have any scales to measure MGs anyway. I'm just bewildered how small they are.






Sorry if the shots suck, or are too big. This is a 4 oz bag of the seeds.

 

5 seeds? More like..well, I don't know. You are aiming for 2-4 grams. It's going to be more than 5 seeds.

4 oz = ~120g /3g = 40. If you divide this ba into 40 EQUAL parts one part will be a 3g dose. That is assuming it really is exactly a 4oz bag.

If I had to guess, I would go with 1 tbs of seeds.

 

I've decided to add lemon concentrate to 3 grams (about 1.25 teaspoons) of seeds, grounded in a coffee grinder. I'll boil this for 15 minutes and then filter the stuff, boil that again for 15 minutes, filter that, and drink it. I will eat only carb heavy foods the day before and after as a way of being safe about the MAOI affect.

Should I do 4 grams instead? And do I weigh it after or before the seeds are grounded?

I won't have a report for quite a while until I can get a good 6 hours in to try and experience it openly.

 

Hell, 4 grams won't do anything bad. The seeds will weight the same whole or ground.

Look forward to the report =0)

 

be careful with syrian rue...
me with one friend tried syrian rue 2 times... one time i didnt have any noticable effects... other time was wery good.. foggy strange lights distortion show....
howewer... the third time was really bad...
first times we were on no diets for maoi...
preparing for third time i went to 3 days maoi diet... (that probably saved me from death)...
i poured about 4.5 teaspoons and cooked with lemon juice for a while...
too bad couldnt filter the solution throught coffee filter... the tea was jus not liquid enough...
it turned out i had a bigger part of the tea...
visuals were completele incredible... but brain felt like frying few times... couldnt move... were feeling wery sick...
and thought that sensation and intensity would just fry my brain out and put me to coma, and later death...
about 3hours later i woke up feeling not so sick...
puked few times... the taste of vomit in my mouth wasnt bad... because the taste of the tea i think is more terrible...
than started the nice affects... fogs distorted light shows and etc...
before taking the tea i didnt eat probably for 14 hours...
in my experience 5g is safe amount... you may womit a bit if you get sick wery easy...
but over 6g be carefull!

 

use those seeds as an MAOI inhibitor for ayahuasca