Transcendentalism still runs like a deep underground river in our culture.

The planet is 4.5 billion years old. We have been living on it for such a short amount of time, that on a timeline of the earth you can't even draw us with the sharpest .01 pen. and we are part of a galaxy with billions of other stars, no doubt with billions of other planets, no doubt with billions of other life forms, no doubt one of billions of galaxies. And the universe is billions of years old and will continue on for trillions of years. And this might be only one of near infinite numbers of universes.And they might each cycle, breathing in and out, forever. At the scale of the universe, both in time and space, we are infinitesimal. We are invisible. It just doesn't matter.

 

it matters to us. it matters to me. but people do, and organized beliefs especially, have this big superinflated collective ego of our species thing, just all out of proportion, and people do need to, and mostly don't, realize the scale, how unimaginable, as you've pointed out, that scale really is, of what we are indeed such i very tiney infintisimal part of.

i for one, actually find it VERY reasuring that there is more out there, then we can mess up. because whatever IS out there, HAS left it up to us, whether or not, and how much to, or not, mess up for each other.

to me, in the face of all that awe inspiring infinity, it just makes no sense to want to mess things up for each other, the way some seem to, and many more do without intending to or even realizing they are doing so.

the sea is so great and my ship is so small. the universe is so great and my earth is so small. but even having lived my previous lives on other worlds, every one where there is creative life is priceless. to be treasured and not destroyed and messed up.

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look at it this way, a nucleus is part of a cell. a cell is part of a mollecule. a mollecule can be part of us. we are part of life on this planet. this planet is part of the galaxy. what is the galaxy part of? it is endless this way, everything has somepart and we may just be it. everytime a candle burns out, it can be a part destroyed, a whole universe - a whole entity.

 

look at the name... Olympic bullshitter.... I cant take this thread serious

 

Why not? It's all true.

 

I can come up with tons of unsolvable mysteries of life. Regardless, we are here now, and to quote a great movie-
"how your mother?"
"she's on her way out."
"we all are, act accordingly."

anyways this life is all we have as 100% sure. act accordingly

 

nothing is 100% sure or atleast that 99.999% sure is.

at any rate, whatever does or does not exist also, it IS up to us, to avoid screwing everything up for each other. all each others within the sphere of influence of our speices, namely primarily the surface of this planet.

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You could look at it this way... and i have many times. Even furthar, our entire universe could be the smallest building block of an atom of another universe and so on and so on to infinity. Our life is the smallest thing to the human race which is the smallest thing to the universe which could be the smallest thing to some other entity. Or we could be the center of the universe. Maybe it is all here for us. Probably not, but if it could happen one way you have to look at the other.

 

all possibilities are real, except those which are not. and those which are not, are never certain. some things can be observed to be more probable then others. the rest is speculation.

i don't know that this belongs any more to the future then it also does to the present and past also. or even that it is in any way affected by anything we call time.

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Perhaps the sensation of deja vu is a result of literally having experienced the exact same thing in a previous life. it seems eerily, exactly familiar. maybe the reason it feels that way is that your previous life was similar to the one now being lived, and some instances are so similar, that they are virtually exact, and have the ability to penetrate the veil that separates lives lived.

Sometimes I wonder if older, more ossified generations maybe do have more wisdom and ultimate awareness than us younger gens, and they just seem stubborn, and we can't understand why they don't see things the way we might. But perhaps some of those of older generations have lived fewer total lives than one of us, and literally cannot expand their sphere of awareness to see other perspectives, because they haven't achieved some eternal principle that we might have attained in a prev. life.

There are those of us who are vaguely reticent in their youth about otherwise normal aspects of human nature, then as they mature they find real reasons why they felt that way, and can articulate it easily. Maybe these ppl actually saw natural human attitudes run their destructive course in prev. lives, and because of some subtle prompting in the current life, tend to feel that the methodologies of mainstream society will be a dead end. And others can't sense it, because they haven't encountered it before in a previous life.

 

I've been thinking more about this... This idea that lives repeat themselves and perhaps the physical world repeats itself.

Our bodies were born into a natural and raw world to begin with. Noticing we were mortal and were as vulnerable to death as animals, we used our minds to survive. Once we found how to survive, we exercised the same method in acquiring our own ends.

But a person that's born into an artificial world, such as the current era, does not have to use his mind to survive. His values do not consist of survival vs. death, he values what he is taught by those gone before him, or makes up his own values as he goes. But, there is no more compelling value than survival, and the creativity and thought required to survive in a raw natural world are the virtues that are lacking when your values are anything other than living or dying, as in the current era.

Doesn't it bother anyone that we only use 10% of our brain, and that's just how it is?
Seems like a waste of tissue. Maybe we don't use much of our brains because we haven't been put into a situation where we need our brains in order to survive. In other words, we are born with our potential already defined. Our brain is calibrated to measure success according to how culture has defined it. Our values are given to us, they are not earned by us. What we earn is conformity to this culturally-prescribed end. Once we reach it, we feel successful and ppl call us successful.

And so our brain reaches a state of contentment and satisfaction, for having accomplished the full measure of one's values. But what if we determine our own values? What if we determine our own potential? There's 90% of the unused portion of the brain that you can calibrate to any lofty goal and any value set and any potential, and if your values are limitless, the mental expansion you get in trying to reach your potential will also be limitless, and you can enjoy a lot more of the grey matter than others.

Is that not the description of heaven? A limitless ability to achieve, a limitless capacity for feeling happiness and contentment for having achieved those limitless values? One could argue that we were born into heaven, simply by being given such big brains. I'll just assume this earth life is heaven, because it can be pretty heavenly once you realize how much you're capable of mentally.

Maybe the reason we keep cycling through lifetimes is because people keep deferring their happiness to a post-mortal life, and not making the earth a veritable heaven that it can be. Once everyone achieves more access to their brain, maybe we will stop cycling through lifetimes and just live in a utopian stasis. With how much we're capable of with these brains, it's not unreasonable.

The city of Enoch in the bible was raised up to heaven once everyone was perfectly righteous. Maybe we can do the same with the whole earth, but not a geographical "raising up", more of a spiritual one.

 

yet there is a lower limit... everything is made of atoms, which is composed of protons, neutrons and electrons (and several other leptons and hadrons), the electron being a lepton and therefore fundamental, and the protons and neutrons being hadrons, more specifically baryons and they are made from up quarks and down quarks arranged into 3's (proton = UDU, neutron = DUD)... these quarks themselves being considered fundamental. In fact at the planck length notions of space/time/matter frizzle out into the quantum foam, where particle pairings come out of nothing whatsoever and seque back into nothing whatsoever... and the curvings of spacetime at such short distances are like madness, up down left and right do not apply...

Does this suggest that at the other end, there is a top limit to our existance? Why should we be 35 orders of magnitude away from the bottom and infinitely far away from the top?