McDonald's serves up 'Diplomas' McDonald's is to offer diploma qualifications officially ratified to A Level standard. I was wondering if any of our younger members would be attracted to this opportunity? (Methinks perhaps not) I heard a debate on the radio yesterday, where a lecturer was making the distinction between skills and education, and that these diplomas would fall into the former category. He said education is about training the mind to think critically and logically about abstract ideas (cue lithium ) whereas the skills training being offered may not develop people in this way. That being said, I know some people are not academically minded so skills training could be more beneficial to them. But I think I have to draw the line at McDonald's.
Well if you can get degrees in hairdressing these days, I don't actually see an A Level in McDonalds as any more of an absurd idea. The academic system's being adapted to fit a service-based society where everyone has a qualification. In the process existing qualifications lose their value. Many jobs that used to require A Levels now require degrees and A Levels have simply become stepping stones rather than useful qualifications in their own right. In the future, it's possible that anyone with a serious interest in intellectual pursuits will have to have a PhD to prove themselves. And as for McDonald's, at least people sitting their Mc A Levels for their Mc Job can get fries with that....
I am not Mcbovvered to be honest. McDonalds are a good employer, free meals and staff discount. Also a chance to climb up the career ladder. It can all be achieved in no less than five years. But you do have to do some exams.
The fact that such a disgusting company is being promoted as some wonderful employer full of opportunity for growth and education completely makes me sick to my stomach. Dressing up the vile, hideous monster, its dreadful My thoughts
meh. they still have to know how to read, right, deal with people and business. no, you're not likely to go off and become a McRhodes Scholar, but fuck it. you probably weren't going to anyway. beggars can't be choosers.
There is an important distinction to be made between vocational / skills training and academic education, which razy touched upon. That distinction has been gradually eroded over the past couple of decades, and McA levels are I suppose a natural consequence of that.
probably because the same people who aren't getting it now weren't excelling at it before. not everyone is built to be a brain. some people just want a decent 9 to 5 so they can go home and do whatever. it's just that the worker bees of this world weren't ever really offered enough of what they needed to get by in a vocational world.
There's nothing wrong with on the job training, and good on McDonalds for offering opportunities for development to their staff, but the question is whether we should put workplace skills training on a par with academically rigorous qualifications, or whether it makes a nonsense of the whole system...
Or more to the truth very capable people who have no one but themselves to rely on to make ends meet and earn a living. I can't imagine bums amd losers being employed by McShitinabun. I agree with the earlier comments that it's about getting people to jump through hoops and at times for no extra pay, the NVQ system comes to mind. As for academic qualifications most of the courses are geared for the workplace anyway and are just glorified vocational courses unless you take one of the classics and developed as a individual rather than someone who only knows their subject very well and can carry out complicated tasks.
I dont know...All McDonalds workers I've seen so far are 18 year old bums. And people laugh at McDonalds here...Its not even that popular.
it's not popular here, either. it's social death to get a job there. but if you need one, there's ALWAYS a few bucks at mcdonalds. sometimes you can't maintain your pride by just sponging off mom.
not really. since the fact that they got it from mcdonalds will likely be noted. if you're looking for the skills level that they can get at a place like mcdonalds, like, if you're opening a small franchise somewhere of some sort, that's GREAT. they will have the skill set you need for the price you can pay. but most of the people who are going to be going for these things are people who wouldn't excel elsewhere. the educational system has made a mockery of itself. people's needs and abilities aren't nearly well enough addressed. hence the mcdonald's thing.
You cant mantain your pride by working at McDonalds either. But then again, I never ever had a job so I wouldnt know.
well, you can live at home, sponge off your mom, take the dole...or you can get off your ass and take the most plebian job to get yourself out of the hole? i've taken some shit jobs, and have been grateful for all of them. better that than welfare.
I have no time for work. I ll keep it this way till I graduate and then I'm gonna find a job that suits me...one that I am educated for. I didnt study all these years to work at McDonalds or to take some shitty job.
that's the POINT sweetheart. all those other people out there might not have someone to put them through med school and support them forever. however they may have gone wrong somewhere in life, whether they screwed up or just weren't smart enough, and they're goin to need SOMETHING. it'll be treated as such, too. and you know what else? "jobs that suit you" don't just start pounding on your door. there's a lot of competition out there for the jobs that aren't shitty. are you goin to refuse to work entirely because it's not the pretty job you dreamed of? everyone starts somewhere.
I know there is a lot of competition...But I know I am gonna get a job as soon as I graduate. I mean, how many doctors are unemployed ?
yeah, and what about all those people out there who don't get to be so uppity?are you REALLY going to spend your whole life looking down on them? just because you're fortunate in your family doesn't mean everyone else is.
