Gender Bending: God, The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit, and Jesus

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Hryhorii, Jan 23, 2008.

  1. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    we are not responisble for the lions share of their violence. it's been this way before we even existed, and if america never came to be, they would be acting the same exact way.

    im not putting muslim people down. im putting down radical muslims, who are terroristic assholes. they will always find a reason to kill. america is just one of many.
     
  2. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    Well, 9 or 12, it makes little difference according to any humane standard of life.

    It's worth remembering too that the Prophet could only establish Islam even among his own tribe through means of warfare and violence which he thought was sanctioned by allah.
    Within a generation, this cult of 'peace' had conquered an empire larger than the Roman empire at its largest extent. So it seems to me anyway that violence was there right from the start. It was sanctioned and even glorifed by the Prophet himself.

    The US has undoubtedly stoked the fires with its very one-sided support of Israel, but it's certainly not the cause of violence in Islam.
     
  3. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    Might flatter the male ego, but that's about all.

    If you think God is limited like we are to biological form, I'd say that perhaps you should think again.
     
  4. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    i spoke of maculinity and femininity. a BALANCE of both. i dont see how i flattered the male ego just then?

    also, i said nothing of God being a biological form. never said that at all. i was speaking of the essence of him. if there is more in God then maculinity and femininity, then why do we only have males and females.
     
  5. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Sex.

    You've got to do something to replace the physical bodies that wear out.


    x
     
  6. Jedi

    Jedi Self Banned

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    masculinity, femininity ? light or dark? good and evil and thats it? I don't think so.
    There are creatures who are neither masculine or feminine: Like bacteria for example.
    And what do you call a room lit with IR radiation? Is it filled with "light" or is it dark? ha!
    Also, there are so many complications in this world for it to fit in a simple context like good and evil. Would you call a lioness who tends to her cubs- good? when the same lioness hunts a boar and orphan's boar's offspring? but the lioness is doing that to feed herself and her children, is that good or bad?

    you see just because something is made in the image of another does not necessarily mean that it is a complete exact clone or copy. A shadow can be made in my image but it misses the finer points of my body , like expressions of my face, or the color of my eyes , or the color of my skin. Hence, masculinity and femininity may be made from God by using God as a template, but that does not limit God to only those two choices.
     
  7. Jedi

    Jedi Self Banned

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    We don't have just males and females. We have people who are hermaphrodites, we have people who are born with XY but with female genitals, we have people who are born without any genitals. We have people who are born XX but think and act like they are males, some who are born with an XY act like females. We also have animals who are hermaphrodite, or species that do not have any sexual characteristic.

    All these possibilities exist. So you are wrong, you are basing your assumptions on the majority of species in one community of Humans, when there are so many other things you don't know about.
     
  8. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    all you have described are variations of male and female. there is nothing new in the mix. it is still just various mixes of male and female essences. the lack of a sexual characteristic is not evidence for something other than the sexual characteristics that we DO know of.
     
  9. Jedi

    Jedi Self Banned

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    Yes , the lack of sexual characteristics is evidence that there can be something that is not bound by either sex, -something that can exists outside the realm of male and female.
    Hence, more possibilities exist for God.
     
  10. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    and that's where we disagree. I dont think the lack of something can be proof of something else. it's been fun though. anything further and we would just be in regress. so i guess let's just leave it at that.
     
  11. Jedi

    Jedi Self Banned

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    you don't get it. I am not talking about proving , i am talking about its possibility. If you want to be scientific about it, then be completely scientific. Just because you haven't seen something does not deny its possibility , obviously it doesn't prove its existence.

    And this in fact proves my point and that is this: God is beyond your understanding as of right now, hence he transcends it, you need a different approach to understand God.
     
  12. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    yes and i am sure you understand him fully.

    absense of evidence is evidence of absense.
     
  13. dirtydog

    dirtydog Banned

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    When you realize the divine spirit in your fellow human, that person's gender becomes less important, while still remaining an important part of her/his being. Of course, people being what they are, that divine spirit is often not obvious.
     
  14. Jedi

    Jedi Self Banned

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    Nah, you don't get what i am saying.

    Don't take me so seriously though. I am just giving you my opinion, but what I do know for sure is God transcends our understanding as of right now.
     
  15. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    it's cool man.

    im starting to see it your way anyways.
     
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