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Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by peacelovexx93, Dec 19, 2007.

  1. peacelovexx93

    peacelovexx93 Member

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    Any body think PETA is too extreme? Tell me your oppinions =)
     
  2. gertie

    gertie Senior Member

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    they have their points and their passion... it is just hard to find others who choice to live the veggie life in a more peacable way.
     
  3. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    PETA is far too extreme and because of that, self-defeating, but not only self defeating; but actually destroys their cause. If PETA just made clear discussions on why it's wrong, and did everything without being extreme with their ads and the way in which they speak, more may listen. Instead, many are doing the opposite, and to spite PETA, are eating even MORE meat and abusing even MORE animals.
     
  4. JerryWobbles

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    If PETA wasnt that extreme, How would you know about them? I agree though they CAN be too extreme
     
  5. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    There are other ways of getting known other than being extreme. And more often than not, they're extreme. If it isn't in the way that they write, then it is the way they act towards others, or the way they showcase animal abuse in movies.
     
  6. sweetdreadlover

    sweetdreadlover TattooedRainbowGurl

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    no, i dont feel PETA is too extremem
    I am a member of their survey comittee
    they really do alot of good.
     
  7. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    PETA is to animal rights what Osama is to Islam. A poor example.

    While I support the cause, I condemn the methods.

    Their leadership need to be gutted.


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  8. Sage-Phoenix

    Sage-Phoenix Imagine

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    Exactly :)

    If anything they're not 'extreme' enough; there are so many occasions when they've pandered to big business and a weak welfareist stance. I don't much care if they're welfare, right or abolitionist; you can't be truly respected unless you're consistent in your principles.

    I also find them pretty every -ist going; and all round ignorant, insensitive and devoid of diplomacy. It's amazing how they ever got off the ground.
     
  9. Miss_Beatle

    Miss_Beatle Beatlemaniac

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    This is so true. I know people who intentionally eat more meat, and go to KFC more than they normally would, just to spite PETA, because they think PETA is out of line.

    I'm a member of PETA. They do do a lot of good, and they mean well. But i fully agree that there are times when they can go overboard, and instead of getting people to listen, they cause them to walk away laughing. The problem is that their idea of grabbing people's attention is wrong. They need to do campaigns that people can relate to, instead scaring them away.
     
  10. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    my take on PETA, as a former supporter (2001) and as the recipient of its PR releases:
    PETA markets itself well, and if the message was coherent once there, it'd be a real powerhouse (as compared to a "pop star" of the vegan world).

    what you get instead are tired shock tactics and hyperbole.
     
  11. Jennifyr

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    Honestly, I do NOT like PETA.

    I'm sorry to those supporters, but to me, they are WAY too extreme, and they need to lighten up their approach on some things. To me, I am way more for the ASPCA than PETA.
     
  12. Bareftonamuddyroad

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    I have to admit if it wasnt for my exposure to the videos and information Peta has on there website I wouldnt be as compassionate as I am today. I have always loved animals but I didnt know what was going on till I was in 7th grade and i stubbled across this information. I was raised in a family that has farms and believes in the " old fashion" ways ( as my father would put it) and they didnt know much about this intill I become more aware of it.

    With Peta being extreme I am definitly going to say yes
    I am also going to say peta is hypocritical

    See I can understand why they would run around in bullhorns naked and do all diffrent types of protests,Abbie Hoffman basicly did some of the same tactics to get his point across

    BUT when it comes to Peta supporting people that blow up buildings and supporting the harm on others to get there point across then that is just WAY to far.
    How can you say you dont want to cause harm on living beings when you are using money from people that are thinking they are saving animals but instead there money is going towards bailing people out of jail that were going around blowing up buildings and going around to colleges showing students how to make home made bombs. Thats messed up

    How can you say dont blame the breed blame the deed and then support the ban and killing of pitbulls ??


    I think Peta is extreme in alot of ways and I think they are extremly hypocritical these days. I thank them for there information on vegetarianism , on animal abuse in factory farms and puppy mills and in the clothing industry

    Dont get me wrong they do some good but they do some bad aswell

    Thats my oppinion on this LOL !!!!
    sorry for the long rant lol !!

    I completly understand where you are all commin from .. I hope you understand me too :):)


    Thanks for reading this lol
    Peace<3 :)
     
  13. TropicalRainbow

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    They are not extreme we need animal cruelty to stop right here right now its not fair on the animals its just not Id blow up a million slaughter factories up to get a message threw to the peoples!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT REMEMBER TO KEEP IT REAL...
     
  14. drumminmama

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    when Abbie Hoffman and the Yippies used the tactics, the were fresh.
    Now , sex is in every scrap of advertising.
    It's tired and done.

    Compassion Over Killing doesn't have to use sexual innuendo, objectify women and Shoah comparisons.

    why does mediawhore peta have to?
     
  15. Bareftonamuddyroad

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    Tropical rainbow .... so you would risk the life of animals and humans to get your point across? Violence isnt the answer

    Trust me I HATE what they do to those poor animals its disgusting. It is sooooo wrong what they do to them. And trust me I would do almost anything to save a living creature But I wouldnt want to go around blowing things up to get my point across .... people have been doing it for a really really long time and there are still factory farms today ... Animals are still getting hurt ...I think if you want to get your point across educate people. Not everyone knows about factory farming trust me my family has been farming for a really long time and they had no idea this was going on till I brought it to there attention soo .. educate people and let them make the choice if they wanna make a diffrence or not. If you wanna get your point across people will be more willing to listen to someone that is mature about things and not irrational and violent.


    Drumminmama you are right about Abbie Hoffman and the Yippies what they did was original and unforgetable
    Peta honestly as some advertisment that is just not necessary but that is one of the many things they do to get peoples attention.
     
  16. drumminmama

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    I'd venture that it is easy to say at 13 you would do these things ( i was a huge supporter of Greenpeace and wanted to be on the frontlines myself at 13).
     
  17. FinnishButterfly

    FinnishButterfly JennyJelly

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    Are you serious?
    They rake in 30 million dollars a year, and last year they killed over 90% of the animals they save. As a "Non-profit" organization, it's kind weird that they're killing the same animals they're saving.
     
  18. SweetBriar

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    As a parent, I have to say that PETA's message is in direct opposition to the values I am trying to raise my kids with, and my reasons for vegetarianism.

    Have you seen their children's activities and resources? Why would I want to teach my child to throw tomatoes at people in fur coats, if our reasons for vegetarianism has to do with the values of compassion and respect? Yes, fur is disrespectful and uncompassionate, but so are screaming protesters throwing tomatoes! It sends a strong message to children of violence justified by moral elitism.
     
  19. behindthesun93

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  20. Strawberry_Fields_Fo

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    I read that the founder/director/leader of peta (forgot her name) is actually against pet ownership. So not only should we not eat meat, or dairy, but we should all get rid of our pets too?? Apparently she thinks it's wrong for humans to have any interaction with animals at all, which of course ignores the evolution of species and the fact that certain animals (dogs and cats) have been specifically bred to be companions to humans, whether she likes it or not.

    And then recently PETA sent a letter to BlueCross/BlueShield in Vermont, saying they should up the premiums on meat eaters because "statistics" shows vegetarians are healthier. Give me a break. My sister's been vegetarian for almost 10 years now, and she's overweight and has a terrible diet. Not to mention the idea encourages the concept of insurance companies discriminating against people every chance they get. What idiocy.

    I think, if you really want to help animals, instead of demanding that everyone go vegan (which just isn't realistic at all), you should work to steadily improve the conditions that animals live in before they are slaughtered. Learn to compromise with those who disagree with you (when it comes to an organization, I don't mean compromise yourself on an individual level). To me, it's not the killing of the animal that's so bad, it's the unnatural, unhealthy conditions they live in. It would be much, much more effective to go about it in a rational manner than just running rediculous campaigns and pissing people off.

    And to those who say PETA needs to be scandalous to bring attention to the cause...please! EVERYBODY has heard of the SPCA (which does 100x more for animal welfare than peta does, imo), and they don't go around bombing things.
     

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