Sign up for the draft?

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by bigblondeafro87, Jan 19, 2008.

  1. Nature_Child

    Nature_Child Member

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    Why would someone opposed to the draft want to make things for the draft ready? Waiting untill there is a draft to reist is basically saying "I'm against this particular draft", rather than being against a draft at all.

    So we have it better than some countries. I know that choosing the lesser evil is how the American mind works, it really makes no sense when we don't have to have either evil. You're right. Norway, Germany, and Sweden don't need a draft. Neither does America or any other country.



    P.S. Good job bloody nailpolish. Always love it when someone sticks up for an injustice that doesn't directly effect themselves.
     
  2. bigblondeafro87

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    Do you honestly think this has been going on only in the current administration? People are just getting better at doing it. The whole system of government and society from the highest to the lowest levels is now twisted and becoming worse. The amazing greed that people have has caused this. MTV is a prime example. The TV drills corporate music, advertisements, and false information into every single citizen of the US.

    Corruption and greed are just a part of mankind and have been with us as long as we have been around. Very few people are able to transcend these. If you were offered $30 billion dollars and control of 250 million people, would you take it?

    Some people are starting to wake up and see what's happening. And I am not talking about the typical issues the MEDIA drones on about. The majority of those issues are things that are used to clutter the news and to make us blind to what is happening at every level in the corporate system and in the government. The people sitting at the tops of the biggest companies and some of the leaders of the world's governments treat the population like cattle.

    Through taxes, advertising, and the amazing amount of information crammed into our heads each and every day the average person is so absorbed into their lives that they never accomplish ANYTHING meaningful. With a forced tunnel vision, people become bogged down in their lives and can't think of things going on at higher levels. We don't see the changes, so we can do nothing to stop what is happening to us.
     
  3. Nature_Child

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    Is somebody questioning our great TV God? Blasphemy!

    But you're right, the way the television has become the Bible of this generation is horrible. Though its not on the topic of the draft, it was highly annoying when those 5-hour energy shot commercials came out, whenever someone decided to fight that energy drinks were horrible would talk about the fact it contained Guarana. Any attempt to question them would prove they had no idea what Guarana was, but they knew it was bad because the television told them so.


    Its really sad though. Televisions could be so useful, but I've had to give it up to keep my sanity.
     
  4. thegreatbuddah420

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    Id have to say im really not to worried about a draft at this point in this so- called war. If there was going to be a draft they probably wouldve done it when afghanistan was still a big deal.. regardless if there were to be a draft count me out im not goin. dont get me wrong I have nothing against fighting for my country if need be BUT this "war" that were in right now isnt for america its for one man's greed so I take my right to choose, and I choose not to participate
     
  5. bigblondeafro87

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    For one man's greed? What do you think bush is actually benefiting from this war? Do you think one greedy man could actually start a war? Despite how fucked up this place is, it takes a lot more than one man to start a war. If you remember why we went into Iraq, it was because we had been informed from the CIA that there were WMD's. If anyone intentionally lied to us about Iraq, it would be them. Bush is merely a puppet
     
  6. nextGENERATIONhippie

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    I wish they reinstated the draft... if theyt did the war would over sooner because people would acually get off their asses and protest this bull shit
     
  7. Nature_Child

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    I actually doubt that. This generation is so mentally pacified. Plus, in a post-9/11 world, activism is terrorism.
     
  8. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Because I'm not against the concept of the draft in the most dire of times. Those that are apparently live in some fantasy world where everything is as it always will be where there could never be another global crisis

    Not to mention the fact you need to if you want federal college aid.
     
  9. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    so you're saying, if we're in DIRE TIMES, THEN its ok to force people to fight against their will. Right...
    it is never okay. Period.
    And the fact that the government uses college as a bribe is just sickening. "Hey! Risk your life, shoot innocent people, and get PTSD, and we might give you a couple bucks to buy textbooks!".
    Sorry, but what's the point of that education if you're not alive to use it?
    The very idea of a draft is stupid and ridiculous. Forcing people to fight. If the cause is so great, then we should have plenty of volunteers, right? I mean, even with this horrible war we're already in, people are stupid enough to join in on the murder. I don't think we should NEED to draft, since there are plenty of willing souls ready to jump in the line of fire... in which case, if thats what they'd rather do then actually educate themselves and grow, then so be it.
     
  10. doom876

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    If you sign up for the draft, you are no better then Bush or a terrorist.
    We think of only people, but the earth and things in the crossfire get killed and blown to bits too, man.
    war is evil, period. heh, supporting this war is especially bad, since half the people dieing are civilians. literally, around 50%.
    I do agree with one thing. This generation is pacified and weak...myself included sadly, gotta change that.

    By the way madcap, that "fantisy" is what the hippie movement was about. If you are that cynical then go joine the neo-conservatives and their reign of terror.
     
  11. stev90

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    Then, why the need to register for the draft at all, if they are going to find you pretty easily anyway??
     
  12. LeapingTiddlywinks!

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    Fuck.The.Draft. Fuck.The.Government.
     
  13. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    So in WW2 it wasn't right to have a draft to save one continent from nazi tyrany and another from genocide from the japanese?
     
  14. broony

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    yep
     
  15. CrazybutLazy

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    Good point.
     
  16. doom876

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    It's never right to force someone to fight. No matter what the reason, it's personal freedom. It's amazing hoe unhip you are. If Nazi Germany won, then it would have. People are not COMPLETELY dumb, someone would dispatch Hitler, or a group like hippies would have risen up.

    Anyway, that isn't the point. The point is, bending over and letting the gov draft us without a fight would be more unhip then ann coulter.
     
  17. Nature_Child

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    Genocide from the japenese? Sure, they were attacking, but we were the side dropping nukes.

    And yet still, no. There shouldn't of been a draft. People shouldn't be forced to give up their freedom to defend the freedom of someone else, and temporary freedom at that.
     
  18. RyJa

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    Do you honestly believe hippies would have stood a chance against the Nazi's?
     
  19. RyJa

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    Well a draft wouldn't affect me anyways, but in the case of WWII, yes I would have signed up. In the case of the middle east, absolutely not.

    Big difference between fighting Nazi Germany and the war in the middle east is how each side value their own lives.
    Those fighting for the Nazi's wouldn't go and blow themselves up to become saints in heaven, like so many do in the mid-east.
     
  20. pizzicatofive

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    There is no draft. I say sign the mother fucker, or else they don't give you money for college (if that's something you want to do), and it is the law. If you get drafted, then refuse to serve or leave the country, but it's dumb not to sign the thing. I did, anyway.
     

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