Adhd

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by young hippie 93, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. young hippie 93

    young hippie 93 Member

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    i have it. sell my meds or use them?
     
  2. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    I'll buy some off you, but I don't mess with that strattera nonsense.
     
  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Flush it down the toilet. That stuff isn't good for anyone.
     
  4. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    yeah, but they help you grind your teeth and talk a lot.
     
  5. lode

    lode Banned

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    What'cha got?

    I'd use 'em. Amphetamines are pretty delicious.
     
  6. SlydeHippie

    SlydeHippie Banned

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    Ditto
     
  7. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    take them all :D
     
  8. Ms.Oh!

    Ms.Oh! Senior Member

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    i'll say!:D

    i took adderall today to get my homework done..
     
  9. Gravity

    Gravity #winning

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    sell them to me.
     
  10. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    i want them...all for me...dont' sell to these OTHER people...
     
  11. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Use it. I have it too and I love my meds.
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It's been found that DIET, not drugs, helps people who display symptoms of so-called ADD/ADHD more than the harmful stimulants that are overprescribed by doctors, often to young children whose hearts and brains are not yet fully developed and are thus especially vulnerable to adverse effects. It's been found that limiting the consumption of sugar and artificial colors from one's diet can lead to drastic improvements in a person's overall concentration. Omega-3 fish oil has shown in some studies to work far better than Ritalin, Adderall, and other stimulant drugs.
     
  13. skamikaze

    skamikaze Coffee Addict

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    ugh i hate my focalin. It gives me this nasty apprehensive feeling. I get red in the face and get really sweaty palms and bad cotton mouth and a racing heart. I never take them unless i am driving long distances. I sell a few off if i need money. I suggest you do the same.
     
  14. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Adderall was removed from the market here in Canada.

    Done all that, and have been doing all of that for a couple years now. It doesn't help as much as ritalin does. I was diagnosed as an adult and I spent at least 20 hours+ of testing with a psychologist who teaches at my university to pin-point my learning disability and isolate it. There is no way that I could be convinced that I do not have ADD. It bothers me that people don't believe the condition exists at all, much like how people never believed in conditions like bi-polar disorders, schizophrenia or even necrophelia in the past. It's all well and fine if a person doesn't believe that these mental health conditions in fact exist, but thankfully we have science in this world that can prove otherwise.

    What I suggest to this young person, is to speak with a specialist to manage your medication. They have tests you can take that measure the effects of the medication you are taking, and they can gauge which medication is best for you through various testing.

    It took me a year to find an adult ADD specialist and be referred to him, but he approached my condition with a "less is best" attitude that I practice with my own self medicating routine. I have the lowest doses of ritalin on the market here (10mg and a 20mg time-release formula).

    Also, a specialist can assist you with diet, exercise and anything else you should know about the disorder.
     
  15. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    I have all of those symptoms too, only mine are rather minor now that I am on a lower dose.

    I used to take 54mg of time-released Concerta that lasted 10 hours.

    What dose are you on? You may want to speak to your family doctor about getting a referral to talk to an actual specialist.
     
  16. skamikaze

    skamikaze Coffee Addict

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    no, i just dont take it. much better for every one. i can sell it and keep getting it prescribed and not take it and keep me happy
     
  17. IamnotaMan

    IamnotaMan I am Thor. On sabba-tickle. Still available via us

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    Ive got massive ADD and never took meds.
    I think the trick is learn how to handle it psychologically and organisationally.
    Einstein , da Vinci and the like all look mega ADD type people.
    Maybe take meds , or natural meds , or just network with other people lucky enought to have a superior scanning brain:)Then u learn how to use it to your advantage in a non ADD world.
    PM me if u want.
     
  18. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    People diagnosed (especially children) with ADD/ADHD are often of high intelligence and creativity, and the thwarting of this intelligence and creativity is the real agenda behind drugging children with dangerous and powerful stimulant drugs, all under the guise of the non-existent condition called ADD/ADHD. You must create a non-existent "condition" and then drug those who display the ability to think and ask questions. In young children, this supposedly manifests itself as being "hyperactive" and "inattentive." I was diagnosed with ADD in kindergarten, in 1986, because I didn't "pay attention," yet I have a 159 IQ and qualified for Mensa at the age of 16. I performed quite horribly all throughout my years in school. The drugs prescribed for so-called ADD/ADHD serve to chemically lobotomize those with potential leadership qualities, and it's time people wake up to what's really going on and how they're being duped.
     
  19. zenloki

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    i worked in two school systems for a couple years and was appalled to see the number of kids getting dosed. later that afternoon i'd see some of the same ones in class and they were zombified. a few years back i read about a school system in Michigan(?) that removed all soda and snack machines from the schools. along with this the cafeteria menu got revamped to more nutritious options. behavior problems practically disappeared.
    Rat i've thought the same on intelligence and creativity playing a part here for a while now. have you read any studies on this?
     
  20. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Alternative treatment does not a 'non-existent' mental disorder make.

    Nobody ever questioned your intelligence. Where are you getting the idea that ritalin lobotomizes leadership qualities?

    I'm sure that most people understand there are people on medications out there that probably don't have to be or that could really benefit from alternative treatments for their depression or other mental illnesses. But knowing that, there should be no detraction from the legitimate cases of people who suffer from real mental disorders and choice willingly to take medication as part of their treatment strategies.

    What is your claim that this particular disorder does not exist?

    I will make my claim that it does.

    The way that I was diagnosed as an adult was through part of an IQ test. I scored in the 96th percentile for higher order logic, but on simple memory-recall tests my scores were down in the 50th percentiles, my lowest score being in the 35th. The standard means of testing for ADD or any other kind of learning disability is partially done through an IQ test itself, much like the one you took to qualify for Mensa. It's a fairly standardized test that the world of medicine has come to use, accept, and update.

    My Psychologist concluded that an IQ test would do me no justice. I couldn't perform well with simple tasks like saying the word "ladder" each time I heard the word "shoe". The certain parts of the tests that required me to pay more attention to little things was where I failed horribly and scored below both the American and Canadian standards. There could be no real detection of my intelligence since it was pretty obvious that I couldn't focus as well as most people could. My scores were very high comparably however when I was asked questions to explain the difference between government and democracy or what Catherine the Great did or the definition of the word 'gregarious'.

    The tests that I performed were able to reflect despite having a well below average ability to recall simple thoughts and answer correctly to something that I had just been told, I was scoring very high on the hardest parts of the test. My Psychologist had to walk over to her book mid-testing to check to see just how high I was scoring in my spatial skill section, because she had never seen anyone score so high in her 30 years of practice and teaching.

    It's isn't just inattentive testing that they use. My Psychologist saw the way that I was holding a pencil, told me to take a quick test, and once I passed it she concluded that I didn't have another form of learning disability that was a possibility to rule out for myself, and in her opinion the disability was closely related to the way that I hold my pencil. I took many tests to see how impulsive my brain function is compared to other people (I scored 99% impulsive on one test) - and I would not consider myself to be an impulsive person or the hyper-active type person. That test was 45 minutes long.

    I went 13 hours straight of testing one day, and it was all me who wanted to keep going. I was determined to keep being tested until the cows come home to find out what was going on with me. My mother used to send me to the doctors to get blood tests and to talk to my family doctor. For a couple years she thought I had seasonal depression and she didn't believe me when I told her that I didn't have it. I started getting help for my ADD when I walked into a therapist office and he gave me a card to talk to a learning disability therapists. I went and just told the man that I wanted to get tested for ADD. He sent me back to my doctor who referred me to a Psychologist who teaches at my school, who then referred me to an adult ADD specialist who also happens to work on campus.

    I meet with a boy named Andrew each month in the cafeteria at school who graduated a couple years ago with ADD. He has become my own personal mentor, we chat about all the tricks and methods we both use to cope with the disorder.

    There is an entire field dedicated and opening up to the disorder within the medical profession. I highly doubt that what I have is in fact non-existent, as it is a very real and debilitating condition that I have come to know at a very personally level in my life.
     

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