USA draft: Women's opinions wanted!!!

Just got my draft papers in the mail. I am not being shipped off to Iraq, but I am being forced to sign up for a draft if it ever is reinstated.

I knew that this is what happens when you turn 18 in USA so I was not very suprised. I was a little angered over the fact that by signing this I am acknowledging how little influence I have over my own destiny in the hands of my government, but this was old news so I did not get very worked up over it.

However, I read the entire sheet, and about halfway down it says the following:

"If you believe you are not required to register, complete Section B of the form and provide supporting evidence..."

Section B was a sheet where you could list medical problems, health issues, etc. All kinds of things that would logically prevent a person from being a functional individual in the army. Then I saw this:

[ ] Female

Wtf, so being born of a certain gender makes you incapable of serving in the military...

Women's rights activists have fought to make sure that women can hold equal jobs as firefighters, police officers, even swat team specialists. Apparently they forgot about the draft.

 

Well, even though there isn't a Draft, I seem to remember that women didn't do so well on the front lines, and even now are relegated to non-combat duties. If I was fighting I would much rather have the non-womanized military we have now than a female who might not be able to function in combat.

But if you mean they should be drafted for behind the lines duty then I could accept that. But in WWII women pretty much kept the war going by running manufacturing back in the US, so once again, I really don't mind if they're excluded.

BTW: I support the reinstatement of the draft for a number of reasons.

 

I am not trying to put words in your mouth so correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like you are saying women are not as good as men at indulging in frontline activities?

These include:

-shooting a gun
-following orders
-possibly giving orders
-very slight chance of a fist fight / struggle
-feel free to add anything I missed to the list as I am sure I have

Why then would it be ok for women to be responsible for pulling 200 pound people out of burning buildings?

Why then would it be ok for women to be responsible for chasing and bringing down, and subdueing criminals?

Why then would it be ok for women to have any say in the actions that the military takes?

I believe women are perfectly capable of carrying out frontline processes.

A lot of people have fought for equal rights, being excluded from the draft based on gender is bs imo.

 

yes, that is if there ever is a draft...no, becuase I dont think anybody should be forced to do something they dont want to do. if there is a draft reinstated, and i get drafted, you wont find me in the US anymore...i will be on the first plane back to Iceland

 

For one, if there is a draft, and if women get all the rights that men do, they need to take the bad with the good, and get drafted.

With that said, and i dont want to sound like a dusche here, but men are physiclly supiror to women, and are naturally the ones who are supposed to fight and protect. If you look at all of humans closets relatives you will see why this is true. In a gorilla troop, the male takes care of and protects the women. Male chimps have the responsability of protecting the women. Preatty much all primates that live in groups, have a situation in which the males protect the females. This includes humans up untill the past hundred years. Naturally, men are supposed to protect women and their offspring.

Yet the ways that society has changed over the past few hundred years, where we refuse to have certain sexes take on certain roles, you can not have women be excluded from somthing like the draft. You cant sit there and ask for equal rights, but only the good stuff. I mean i cant sit here and ask to be president of the US, but then not want to do anything except for enjoy the percs like living in the whitehouse and having a private jet.

I am all for equal rights. But equal rights, means taking the bad with the good. You cant pick and choose.

So even though women naturally would not be off defending themselves and the family, in the world we live in today, they should.

 

Yeah leech off the safety that soliders provide for you, and when it is your turn to serve skip town like a little bitch. Good job

 

I hate those feminists who always try to gain an advantage in life instead of actually asking for equal rights they fight for unequal rights in their favour.

 

If I am drafted I will not flee from the country because I feel I owe it to the others who are drafted to help them serve, I do not feel that I owe it to the president, his affiliates, or any large body of government.

That being said, I do plan on moving to Sydney as soon as I am done at university.

 

Elaborate.

 

ha..

 

By safety, do you happen to mean destruction? And by provide, do you happen to mean force? And by little bitch, do you happen to mean non violent? Oppopsite world is fun, where the lies are truth and the truth all lies
Having a war founded on greed is one thing, bad enough as it is. But forcing innocent people to kill and die in this war because the hunger for money and power cant be quenched is evil beyond measure.

 

Haha. Safety. You're funny.

And thats a very, very limited poll you got there. No, women shouldn't have to sign up for the draft. But neither should men.

And just so you know, you don't -have- to sign up for the draft right now. You loose all the bribes, but its not like they are putting a gun to your head.

 

I agree that if men are drafted...so should women.

I disagree that men are physically superior to women. Some are-some aren't. I'm just saying that everyone is made diffrent and I have seen my share of skrawny men that I could brake their arm over my knee. (not that i would)

And in the world we live in today...we do (not should) defend ourselves and our family. Single moms have precious little alternative.

 

The fact of the matter is, this is a dog eat dog world, do you think the U.S would be safe with no military? Its a simple fact, if you do not have the ability to back up your words or defend yourself people will walk all over you and do as they wish. You use the fuel the U.S supposedly went to get in Iraq, and you enjoy living somewhere where you can feel comfortable about the safety of your family and friends, and who provides that safety? Then when it is your turn to step up and defend your country you claim to be non-violent and turn tail. You can medidiate and hold hands with your friends and pretend everything is going to be alright, but even in your beloved "nature" animals are violent, they fight, and whoever is stronger wins. No one in this world is in it to help anyone else, they are always in it for themselves one way or another, when you have the basic necessities you can act like you care, but once your security, your family, and your children are in danger you have to do whatever it takes to provide for and defend them.

 

Come on dude, there are plenty of countries without large militaries that do just fine look at canada, australia, holland, etc. Military force is just the imperialistic greed of America. Iraq had no intention of attacking us and the taliban were pursued by the international community including NATO. With large systems like the UN and many international codes There is little reason to spend the amount the US does on its military. We don't need the amount of "protection" we have. The world isn't as dog eat dog as you think or maybe it is Its all about perception

 

so only one woman posted here so far!! As the second I say that women should not be drafted. Fuck feminism, and fuck equal rights. I'm a bit old fashioned. Of course I think women should vote, and get equal pay, and stuff like that, but I think women are needed at the home front. Women are the heart and soul of family, and they should be home taking care of it. Although if a woman wants to do it she should have that right. And by all means, if a woman wants to go off to war, while the man stays home that's fine too. I just think that someone is needed to take care of the kids.

So I said no, women should have special rights. They should have the right to choose, and if they were drafted have the opportunity to say no I won't go!

If they did draft women because of some terrrible tragic thing that might happen, I wouldn't go. I'd go to canada if canada was still safe.

 

so only one woman posted here so far!! As the second I say that women should not be drafted. Fuck feminism, and fuck equal rights. I'm a bit old fashioned. Of course I think women should vote, and get equal pay, and stuff like that, but I think women are needed at the home front. Women are the heart and soul of family, and they should be home taking care of it. Although if a woman wants to do it she should have that right. And by all means, if a woman wants to go off to war, while the man stays home that's fine too. I just think that someone is needed to take care of the kids.

So I said no, women should have special rights. They should have the right to choose, and if they were drafted have the opportunity to say no I won't go!

If they did draft women because of some terrrible tragic thing that might happen, I wouldn't go. I'd go to canada if canada was still safe.

 

thats because those nations have a mutal pact with many other nations who's collective armies are powerful. Of course the world is dog eat dog, China invests billions into African nations to steal their oil and natural resources, and all of that money goes towards arms that are provided mostly by the Russians, which are used to kill millions of innocents.You do what you have to do get the resources you need.

 

there would most likely be a draft in canada as well in the event of a large scale war

 

-On AVERAGE.. men ARE more physicaly strong than women..
-The idea of a war is to win..
-If men on average are better at fighting than women.. then men are a better candidate for getting the job done as quickly as possible..
-Therefore women should be able to fight.. but (if thinking logically) should only be put out to fight if there are limited amounts of men..

Also.. no one should be forced to fight..