URGENT!! help me talk my friend down???

hi everyone

probably (and hopefully) by the time anyone replies to this, it will be ok. but here's the deal. a friend of mine took too much acid last nite and he's kind of freaking out. i'm not hugely experienced with acid (mushrooms yes but acid not so much) and im just wondering what i could do to help calm him down???

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i was thinking maybe oranges, because i am pretty sure that vitamin c is a catalist???
we also smoked some pot with him to help calm him down. thing is, he doesn't smoke weed too much so i was kinda worried that might mess him up even more. hopefully not!!
it's just pretty normal acid freak out talk, like i've lost the world, nothing makes sense, i need time and concentration, you know how it is. he's just really really tense and worried.


i've taken e a couple times when i was on mushrooms or acid and it helped me. but i was never freaking out as much as he is at the moment. would that be a good idea??? i also have like.... tylenol three? i don't know.

any words of wisdom would be appriciated! thanks everyone


serra

 

Chill out the enviroment. Chilled music, speak quietly, lots of reassurance, hug him if you need to and just help him ride it out.

Food can be good if he is up to eating but lots to drink is a must.
He will be ok.

 

Yeah, more drugs is probably a bad idea. Just be talk to him, keep reminding him that he's tripping and keep telling him it's all just the drug. Remind him he'll be back to normal soon.

 

Well, you could give him more. Like enough to make him lose all sense of ego. He'd black out for a couple of days, and wake up with a new view on life. Or in a mental hospital. But seriously, just keep him calm, lay him down on the couch, and talk about things that are real that he can focus on, like talk about the wall or the floor or the couch.

 

Milk! It does your body good

 

Play soft music, put on soft lights and just talk to him calmly. Remind him that he's on drugs and it'll go away soon.

Benzos are good for trip aborts - Xanax, Valium, Klonopin, Ativan, shit like that. The codeine might help, but it'll take a good bit. Best thing for him, though, is to chill with some good, light music and a well-lit room.

 

Serra, I haven't seen you in a long time.

Just sit your friend down in somewhere bright and comfy, with no distractions or anything.

I've always told my friends who were on bad trips that they were just on a drug, and that it'll pass... I always explained to them what LSD does to the brian... basically it sends the brain a lot of synapses all at once... its basically a mind overload with senses... tell your friend that everythings ok and time will fix everything.

Hope thats not too late to help...

Take care Serra.

 

every tripper's medicine cabinet should have a bottle of niacinamide (a "non-flushing" form of vitamin B3)

100-250 mg can slow things down, & 500 mg can often (usually?) stop the trip, mmmmkay?

(and for that trip that just won't quit; or for those pseky lingering sensations of unreality that bother some folks for several days after tripping (maybe like 3-5 out of 1000 trips?), a daily dose of 100-250 mg 3x/day (with meals if possible) can often "stop those pesky hullabaloocinations & give you a chance to see things in reak black and white!" ...

ymmv...)
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10 to 20 millgrams of valium may be easier on brain & body than 50 to 250 millgrams thorazine...
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smoking pot may not help... likewise the T3s (tyl/cod)...
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a nice cuppa chamomile tea or hot cocoa couldn't hurt...
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(as if this hasn't been discussed here and elswhere more than a few times before... utfse... i think shroomery.org even has a sticky FAQ or 2; and there oughta be similar info at places like erowid.org & lycaeum.org...)
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(& the niacin thing is still subject to dispute, but IF it can stop trips, & turn down the craziness levels in schizophrenics, in even 25% of cases, it should be tried, imho... and i suspect that the real sucess % rate might be quite a bit higher... again, imho...)
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& remember --- psychedelic drugs may not be right for everyone, mmmmaky?

 

thanks everyone so much for the replies!!


i pretty much was doing everything that you all suggested. it took a few hours and a LOT of hugging, reassurance and cuddles but my friend was getting back to reality after about four hours.

he was later on able to describe to me what he was experiencing and it souded pretty intense. he was having a lot of issues with vision and seemed to have developed a temporary visual agnosia.
veryone around him kept dissapearing; he could hear people talking to him but could not make sense of who they were or what they were saying. everyone, he said, except for me. i stayed extra close and helped him as best as i could.
we were chilling at my apartment after a party (an all night techno trance "rave" dance party as the kids say) so we were in a pretty chill place, but quite a few people were around. all good and nice people who only wanted to help, but most of them weren't really getting what he was going through. and there of course was music and talking and laughing and stuff....
my roomate wasn't home so after a while i stole his room and put my friend to bed and stayed with him the whole time. all he needed was a few hours of serra cuddling and he was well on the way to recovery!! =)

and thankfully i picked a good night to stay sober!


but again, thanks all for your replies. also, as someone mentioned, i'm sure there already is a thread devoted to this topic. sorry for the double posting, i did a breif search without much luck and i was hoping to get responses as quick as possible.

maybe one of the mods would like to sticky this one in here?? knowing how to talk someone down is a pretty good skill to have,when dealing with acid. i was actually quite ashamed at my lack of concrete knowledge in the area.... i had a lot of ideas which turned to work beautifully but not everyone is a raver mommy.... (always taking care of those in need)

holy! talk much! i'll stop now!
thanks again


serra

 

Glad it turned out ok

 

*stickified*

As for oranges, you can make oranges, or just about any innocuous substance work (oranges do not haev special acid affecting powers)...the placebo affect of anything "administered" with a sense of informed authority usually works pretty good, if you convice someone that they are going to be OK they will be, if you freak out or act unsure, they will usually get worse...

I'm assuming your friend was not experienced? If not they were lucky to have a (sober) trip sitter <you> around to help them. Hopefully it wasnt so bad that they will be scared away for good. Some trips are bad, and some are good, but in hindsight the 'bad'; trips are usually the most enlightening.

 

I think that the best way to get things under control in a situation like that is to start off by saying to him, "Shh! I think I hear that girl from the ring in the closet!" Then, tell him that everything he thinks he knows is a lie, and that everyone he knows and loves secretly hates him and wishes him dead. If that doesn't calm him down and get him thinking clearly, I don't know what will...

 

I am probably to late for good advice, but valuum. Yes valuum.

 

valium
VALIUM

(diazepam)

 

thorazine
klonopin
valium
smack
phenebarbital


naw, but for real, jus dont let them freak you out, cause if you start lookin goofy or scared, it will worsen their problems SO much worse. always smiley (politely) at them. and tell them you love them and you wouldnt let anything bad happen, its all in their head.

 

trance music is not a good thing when you're heart beat as fast as a furious carpenter ...now it's the past for your friend but some calm hippie music like The mamas & the papas or Millenium was a much better choice for a good & harmonic trip as calm as a turtle...

 

you mentioned vitamin c, i used to take vitamin c to intensify my visuals and trip,

 

wowwy zowwy

 

You know what, your a real good freind and I'd say thats what someone needs more then anything in a position like that. And thank god you got him away from the scene of the techno music. I was at a rave once on acid and i almost lost my fucking mind, just couldn't get away from that damn music.