Hey, I'm thinking about growing and wanted to know what would happen if you grew from mixed spores of some strains which both require the same growing conditions and do not compete for resources so competetively that that they are unable to share and one strain kills the other off by stealing all its nutrients. Does such a pair (or maybe more) of compatible strains exist? If so, what happens when you grow them together, or what do you think would happen? Do you get a new strain, mixed mushrooms of two seperate types, or swirled mushrooms that fruited from tangled mycalium? Or maybe they just split the tub in half without mixing because the mycelium is too dense to share territory? I'm not too sure this would be possible, but was just curious.
They will either fruit independently or form a new strain. Both are possible. There will be no competition. Good luck!
Not sure! From what I've seen, the most distinct strain of cubies are Penis Envy. Perhaps you can mix those with a more normal looking strain and see what happens.
Those are pretty big ones. Look like good producers. This gives me an idea: what if I mixed a huge producer with an extremely potent breed? Could it yield an awesome new strain that produces tons of potent mushrooms easily?
If it was that easy it would have been done. Unfortunately there aren't any strains that are significantly more potent than other cubensis strains. Potency is mostly determined by the nutrients available to the mycelium, as well as the growing parameters. The same thing can be said for the amount of fruits produced. Have you been to the Shroomery? If not you should check it out. They have tons of guides and writeups for growing mushies, and a very active forum where there are tons of people that will answer your questions. To be quite honest, this forum isn't the best place to go for mushroom growing. There is a lot of misinformation and ignorance on these boards. http://www.shroomery.org
if you wanted to signifigantly up potency you can ad pure tryptamine to your subtrate it can double even tripple potency. it might be fun to pull that shit on some unsuspecting cyans and and see what that would do, or maybe hit up up your picking spots and pour a tryptamine solution on the ground where they usualy pop, should try that soon. there are more specific details as to this in stamets book psilocybin mushrooms of the world under the section on cubensis. myceliums live happily together all the time, wether in the wild or in culture, some body found a polypore in canada some where that had genetics and characteristics of four different mushrooms all in one fruitbody. you could try and find a mushroom that contains an maoi with similar growth specifics and get it to live with some cubensis, make like a ayahuasca mushroom =P
Don't shrooms and some dmt in them, so a maoi would change the experiance....Hopfully not into a puking one like many yopo users know lol. J.C
mushrooms containing dmt? Never heard of that. Although...DMT is everywhere. So it would not surprise me at all. Got a source?
psilocin is 4-ho-dmt, not the same as the dmt you can smoke, god damnit read people! why single out poor yoppo as a puker? i mean yea it is brutal, but most natural dmt concotions will make you puke, brutal, delearious puking is a great pre trip purge of toxins. Ate Amanita Pantherina once, made me vomit for like over 4 hours straight, which causedme to pass out once it was over next to the can from exhaustion. came too laying in puke, so glad i didnt drown in it
yikes. I do read! I just forgot that's the chemical name for psilocin. Amanita Pantherina gave me that same reaction. Maoi would definitely potentiate the mushroom trip and that's not something I'd want to fuck with. They're already gnarly as is... I'm going to do some further research regarding this on some other forums and chime back. peace
hahahahaha that fuckin panther cap, if you have a psilocybian mushroom that crosses with an maoi mushroom (who knows do you you know? I dont friggen know, there are so many mushrooms that do such wierd things there just might be an maoi shroomy) you could eat like half as much mushroom matter. tried syrian rue with mushies, hellllllla nuts but I thought i should dose low so I ate only an 8th, pretty brutal, if master potency is desired a tryptamine supplement would probubly be best, or you could try growing pan cyans.
The dmt you smoke is free base, the dmt you drink with a maoi is not. So I'm not saying smoke shrooms as a source of dmt, that will be silly, even though peps still try XD. Here is a source saying shrooms have dmt http://www.magic-mushrooms.info/chemistry.htm It would seam i am wrong that the dmt in the shroom will change the trip, but this site also suggest that maoi will nearly double the potency. That's nice to know. Oh and about the yoppo, just the first thing that came to mind that had dmt and causes puking. J.C
As far as I know the DMT in most ayahuasca mixes is not salted, which would mean you are getting free base DMT. This is an easy mistake to make. The chemical structure of psilocin (4-OH-DMT) and psilocybin (4-OPO-DMT) do indeed have the DMT molecule attached, but *because* they are attached, you are working with a completely different chemical. You could have 6-BANANAPHONE-DMT, and it would most likely be completely inactive, even though the DMT part is there.
Ok so by tryptamine solution, oculd this be mushroom tea? If I pour a cup of mushroom tea on a crop will it become more potent? And holy shit that idea for an ayahuasca shroom is incredible, though perhaps there could be some risk involved in testing the first crop of the new strain. I would try it though, who knows, it could make something amazing and new, maybe even a whole new kind of drug that's never been seen before. That's interesting.
Tryptamine HCI can be bought legaly from chemical suppliers it doesnt do anything mind altering but the fungus can take it up and use it in psilocybin production, mushroom potency is affected by substrate quality very heavily, and that tryptamine is lush stuff for a psilocybian mushroom. "this website says it has dmt in it" I dont care dipshit, there are thousands of websites with terrible often dangerous information on magic mushrooms, and it's useless gulible fucks like you that perpetuate the misinformation explosion.
So I just mix the tryptamine in sterile water and water my shroomies with it? Any certain quantities you would recomend? Also, I know I can find it on google, but I was wondering if you have any specific favorite sites where you know it's cheap and has good service.
you mix it in your substrate, like ya know before you sterilize it. im pretty sure a lil goes a long way, experiment.
