Milestones: The Islamist Manifesto

There are two imperialisms in the war on terror, you have western imperialism, you also have islamic imperialism.
In recent years islamic imperialism has been active but not in the way it was active in the past, with vast armys conquering countrys for islam.

So we have seen small scale attacks like sept 11, but not major attacks, how long this situation will continue with a nuclear armed Iran and Pakistan is unknown.

But I think its useful to understand the ideology behind Islamic imperialism,
there are a number of books that have had influence on the present situation.

The link below looks at a book by Sayyid Qutb called milestones, sayyid qutb was a member of the muslim brotherhood.

Its well worth reading

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/RebeccaBynum40919.htm


This site has a number of books including milestones in english that you can read online.

http://www.islamistwatch.org/main.html

 

Punctuation is your friend. And Capitalization is pretty cool once you get to know him.

Aside from that, I think you have a point. Radical muslims may at this moment be only a bunch of independent factions making small scale attacks, but a few years down the line with a few more Osma bin Ladens, we could be dealing with a serious military threat. I don't think Pakistan will ever be a problem as long as India is around, but Iran with nukes definitely doesn't help. Then there's Saudi Arabia, a fair-weather ally to say the most. A lot of things that don't seem like much now, like these small scale attacks on embassys and cargo ships might turn into a lot more if we just sit by and wave our dicks in the air.

 

The process works something like this:

1) We gas up; the money ends up in the hands of Saudis, providing them with extra money to spend on... whatever.

2) Saudis spend some of that extra money funding terrorist attacks.

3) Bush thumps his chest, the Big Pickup Truck set slap Bush stickers next to the John Prine flag decal, and gas up.

4) Goto 1

If a member of al-Qaeda killed a THOUSAND American soldiers and changed world opinion from being overwhelmingly pro-American (even France's LeMonde said in headlines "We are all Americans now" on Sept 12, 2001) to being generally anti-American, Osama would give the man a medal, pat him on the back, and regard him as a hero of the highest degree.

George W. Bush, al-Qaeda's greatest tool.

 

Too true.

 

they have just beheaded second american of the three guys who were captured

another interesting site
http://jihadwatch.org/

 

if you economically corner masses of people, and place them in the "East" of what you are (west) people may use religions as their medium of conducting a war,which requires unity and organisation. If what we call as the "west" had played the game fair and had not imposed IMF structural reforms, create a massive unemployment army in the periphery countries then the world would have been more peaceful.

 

I think there is a good case that islam has held back development I dont think the main reason the islamic world is in bad shape is the west .

I think its internal and to do with the religion, I think if it wasnt for the religion which scares people ( I think rightly so ) in europe there wouldnt be the barriers that we have now .

people worry that somewhere down the line europe could end up like iran or saudi thats the main reason turkeys entry to the eu as been delayed .
I dont think we are trying to keep the areas around us poor.

Id love to see a day when iran and turkey and other countrys were closer to us

 

Although I’m not a muslim myself (I’m a non-believer) I know that Islam had civilized the East, (as well as it did indirectly help the west) much more than Christianism did after the fall of the Roman Emp. Christian thinkers such as Thomas Acquinas has read islamic philosophers such as Ibn-î Sina, Farabi, El Hekim and Gazali.
Gazali’s scepticism has helped Descartes with his Rationalism, El Harezmi (the mathematician) has invented the number “0”. And one of those guys has written the most widely accepted medicine encyclopedia that was even accurate after the medieval ages. It is also known that the Europeans has learned things like compass, gunpowder and etc. by way of crusades. So dont tell me that Islam creates underdevelopment, while christianity is a religion of science and you dont need to quote Max Weber’s “protestant ethics”. It’s the abuse of religions that create conservatism. Islam was the religion of tolerance when Jews were exiled in England, France, Swizterland and Spain, (an Ottoman Emperor, Sultan Beyazid sent ships to invite those exiled Jews). In the building I live, we're the only Turk residents, all other flats are owned by Sefarid Jews (jews exiled from Spian) People like to show the abused way of Islam (stoning women) and make profit out of it. But when concerned Cristianity, they neglect their history full of heretic hunting and religion based violance they’ve commited in South America and Africa.

I absolutely see no point in defining development as the western way. Western development is in a major crisis. Eurocentric development has long been understood as the only way of being developped. But development can not be exluded from social,historical and geographical values. You cant britainize or americanize india or malasia or algeria and wait the result to be development. Japan and Malasia are great examples to that.

The western development is in crisis… Why?
Because the mahcine designed to create consumers is hardly feeding itself, the pension systems are about to bankrupt in 30 years time. Technology may be a good social drive but it cant help reduce but exacerbate unemployment. Have you seen BBC’s “Playing the King” serial? Where the government musters the unemployed youngsters for the army (I guess that’s almost the case in Iraq)
The western development, merely based on the will of the free and uncontrolled markets, can not justify the harm it does, the conflicts in the world it generates. Therefore I would never want to see Turkey or Iran be like the UK or the USA.

As for the European fear of the massive Islamic and less educated Turkish population…It is a bitter medicine that the EU has to swallow. The EU needs Turkey in the long run if it is to cure it’s political impotance. Not only limited with Turkey. Turkey obviously is not in Europe and geographically and culturally will never be. But still it will be in the EU. So will, Algeria, Tunus and other North African countries. In my vision, Russia, Canada and even Australia shall belong to the union. Bcuz the Union is not based on 19th century’s “christiandom” or St. Augustine’s “Respublica Christiana”. The EU has to get over with it and admit culturally and geographically diverse business partners, for business is the drive for politics.

And lastly you say “I dont think we are trying to keep the areas around us poor.”
Do you dismiss your colonial and exploitative history? The closest area Britain has exploited is Irland I guess, not to mention Afganistan, Pakistan, the Sudan, Iraq, Palestine and etc.