Will the internet stay free?

I wonder if the internet will stay free of govenment intervention. Any thoughts?

 

For now atleast. But there is always a possibility that some organization will try to go on a crusade to control the internet. However, no human organization is that competent to have the ability to control something as free and wild as the internet.

I think fighting and dying for the freedom of information and thought is moar logical and practical that dying for a political ideology promising "freedom".

 

I hope so.

 

Explain "free of goverment intervention"? If you mean free from monitoring your internet activity, emails, purchases, posts ect then sorry buddy its far too late for that wish.

 

^ very true
It wouldn't be much of a surprise to me and doesn't seem too far out, if they were to intervene..

 

they will never be able to, hackers/crackers will always be able to get through.

 

Nobody has more hooks in the water than Uncle Sam.


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The only thing on planet Earth free of goverment intervention is your mind.

 

Sssshhhhhh! Dont say it to loudly or they might try that too!

 

Maybe that is why they classify hacking and attempted hacking an act of international terrorism and there are a handful of persons with the talent to do much if the goverment really wants to crack down.

 

Country's governments can not control the Internet. The Internet spans across the entire world, to every country. For example, the United States cannot control Internet activity exclusive to Japan or India, yet that activity is literally on the Internet. There is only one Internet, and it exists outside of all geographical boundaries.

The only thing governments could hypothetically "control" is the web servers and access providers. It would be so incredibly complicated to control, that it is literally impossible. The Internet is a community that has no physical limits, simply because it has no physical properties. The servers and network media are not the Internet itself. That fancy stuff is only our gateway to this digital world.

-joe

 

That is like saying radio has no boundries, TV has no boundries and ect. sorry but it does, your content is easliy put through a filter just as radio can be blcked and tv can be blocked and phones can be blocked and ect.

 

Actually, radio stations are limited geographically. TV stations are limited to the cable/satalite/signal provider.

The Internet consists of an enormous hybrid and/or mesh network topology. This enormous network can be accessed from anywhere in the world. It ca also be hosted from anywhere in the world.

For example, the Radio station "Hot 107.9" can be enjoyed via radio waves from almost anywhere around Atlanta, Georgia, USA. It is a radio station that produces radio waves or a radio signal that is limited to that geographical area. You cannot go to London and listen to, or connect to, Atlanta's radio station "Hot 107.9" via radio waves. The radio signal will simply not reach across the Atlantic ocean.

But. The Internet is different. You can be in London and still connect to an Internet server that is based in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. No matter where you are in the world, you can always access the same exact Internet.

Radio and TV signals will always be catered to a geographical area. If you watch the news on channel 36 in Paris, you might be watching a French news program. If you watch the news on channel 14 in Atlanta, you will likely be watching a broadcast in English (maybe that same news cast is aired on channel 19 in New York).

The only exception to this is satelite TV. To a certain extent, some satelite providers have a network that reflects many of the same properties of the Internet. Although satelite providers are proprietary, thusly limitations are generated to certain areas and where the providers have types of service. Such as HBO might not be available in Egypt for satelite comapany X, yet satelite company Y's service offers it.

Basically, no matter who provides your Internet service, or where, you will always have access to the same, exact Internet. You can be in Atlanta and still connect to Hip Forums. Yet, you could be in London, Paris, Egypt, or anywhere and still connect to Hip Forums exactly the same. Not all Internet servers are located in the United States, for example Hip Forums servers are actually in Sweden, if I am not mistaken. You can go to Sweden and still see Hip Forums in the English language (so long as your own web browser and OS is setup to display English).

Cheers
-Joe

 

Isn't it possible that certain things could be blocked by ISP?

 

Yea, well, guess what? China does it, and so do several other authoritarian countries. It's already happening.

 

Radio I spoke of was amateur (ham) not your local FM stations.

All internet activity has to run thru a series or servers or your own server, to be seen by the next guy across what ever it has to travel via something (phone lines, comsats, your own person wireless, packet radio ect) the other party would have to be able to do the same.

So to regulate the internet all one needs to do is control the comsats, the utility companies ect. No ability to broadcast your signal=no net, no electricity=no net, regulate laws to ISP's=limited controled net, apply laws to end users=limited net

Its not the movie Matrix, its just a movie the control of ones utilities are and always goverment controlled.

As for Japan, China, Gernamy, Turkey, Ireland and whatever other country if there is a desire to regulate, limit or absolutely shut off then the goverment of anyone or all of those countries can shut it down.

 

Yeah, the servers are physical properties that provide our gateway to the Internet. But the servers are not the Internet itself. Controlling a bunch of servers in one country is not controlling the Internet.

You may be getting network confused with Internet. Internet is a proper noun that specifically names only one thing. There is only one Internet, and there will always be only one Internet. You would compare the word "Internet" to a word like "Belgium". There is only one Belgium, and it is a proper noun.

A network is not a proper noun and it is a general term. You can yank the cord to every network in the United States, but the Internet will still be there.

 

No but 7 simple satellites shuts down the ability for the "internet" to function. The internet is a network but an international network a shared global "network"enabled to allow "connected" computers to communicate. The "internet" does not exist without the computers connected to them. It is just a network period.

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I was here in the BBS days I am not ignorant to what this is and how it was made. I was here before Bill Gates believed the internet was of value and before IE was offered in a day of Netscape only.

 

Yes, but you can't control the Internet. Even if these satellites burn into dust, the Internet is still only a logical place. The US gov't could launch a nuclear strike against all servers and satellites, but not against the Internet.

Honestly, this thread is about controlling the Internet, not how t bring it down. Hypothetically: What I am saying is that you could own a server that connects every US citizen to the Internet, and you may could control it, but you can never control the Internet.

 

The internet is not a location or a "place" it is nothing more than data being transfered from one computer to another not a place. If the computers are not there to send data then the internet does not exist no connection. How the hell could you qualify the internet as a place?? Show me one shred of evidence that the internet is anything more or less than what I went and sought out to define to you.

Here maybe this will help you understand...
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I know your a Linux user so you are not a Microsoft puppet.

If i own the server I can easily control the content that flows thru it and that which I deem acceptable to be viewed by my minions. Ever been to a public school, most offices ect. They thru thier servers filter what can and cant be viewed and done so on a larger scale it too can be done and not near as hard as your think. By doing so you are controlling the internet for others. If you can track it, you can control it just as easily.