Boycott Cars man.

Discussion in 'Boycott' started by The Indy Hippy, Nov 1, 2007.

  1. Mellow Yellow

    Mellow Yellow Electrical Banana

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    Last week I came to the revelation that maybe the "cult guy" is right (pardon the term). Maybe the only truly sustainable way to live is to radically change our life style, do away with cars and roads, and even currency for that matter. Live simply off the land, without industry.

    My rational mind told me this is absurd, un-American even, I mean you can't legally live in this country without currency, right? You can't pay taxes or purchase the land you live on, but you can sustain such an existence if you're not caught. 'Sounds pretty cool, not that I'll ever live that way, but who knows? I spend most of my life cooped up, dreaming about the woods. Then on nights and weekends I spend as much time as I can in the woods. Locally grown foods are better than stuff that's shipped in, right? Just as stuff that's built from natural local materials is better.

    The only argument I have against this way of life is a sense of commitment to change things in the most powerful country on earth, but that may be a sham as well, 'cause our government no longer seems to represent the will of the people. It's become an oligopoly, and even the 500 million or so middle class elite don't have much say over policy these days. I may not have the power to change things, but I can change the way I THINK, at least till the thought police catch up with me... ;)

    It's possible mankind lacks the civility to wield technology, at least how it's manifested in today's world.
     
  2. Littlefoot

    Littlefoot Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I'm basically with you there. For long distances. Walking is the logical choice
    for local travel.

    Get it off the ground, too. That's a must. But I don't see any way around using
    combustion engines. Any attempt to use electricity would be more destructive.

    The best idea I've encountered is hydrogen airships (dirigibles) with simple
    internal combustion engines used for takeoff and landing and achieving
    the altitude where the wind currents are headed in the right direction.

    And for emergencies, of course, like seeking shelter in a sudden storm.

    The fuel could be woodgas from coppices of fast-growing trees growing
    at each of the airship's ports of call. Not much would be neaded. In order
    to keep the weight down, the wood could be turned into charcoal in
    destructive distillation retorts, with all of the distillates (one of which is hydrogen)
    being used by the community hosting the port. (things like turpentine,
    and acetic acid, various grades of wood oil, and tars and resins).
    The extra hydrogen needed can be generated by running steam over
    red-hot charcoal. Hot bulb ignitions, which require no electricity,
    can be used for the airship's engine.

    Sounds good to me.

    People doing it now have to camouflage their communities from the eyes
    of mainstream culture.

    "mechanical escapements" Excellent! Large, crude, clockwork motors can
    be used for a variety of tasks.

    "narrow gauge". Elevated railways, for transporting only people and their luggage,
    over long distances, could be Earth-friendly, I think.

    Nice. You are really thinking.

    One of the biggest obstacles, as you point out, is the mindset of most people.
    They have been brainwashed into believing that this society is the culmination
    of millions of years of natural evolution, the crown of creation, and that it is just
    the way the world is, rather than simply one of numerous ways that human beings
    can choose to live.

    They buy into the idea that human evolution and technology are the same thing.

    Technogogy is good, but it's overuse and abuse is killing the planet and us.

    Littlefoot
     
  3. Littlefoot

    Littlefoot Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Mellow Yellow wrote: "What I'm getting at is that what seems to make the most sense, and what is economically feasible are two different things. In this country, economic feasibility trumps common sense, that's the nature of capitalism. We like to bitch about it, but it's the nature of the beast, which we created, and we feed. It in turn feeds on us."

    Quote of the month, MY. Well thought out and well put. I'll tuck that away for future
    use, if you don't mind.

    Littlefoot
     
  4. Littlefoot

    Littlefoot Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    "new civilization guy" would be better than "cult guy", MY. More
    accurate, though I do note that you put it in quotes. Anyway,
    none of my ideas are original. They all come from examples set
    by people who are my teachers. People who are, no way around it,
    better than I am.


    Certainly un-American. Anti-American, even. Or rather,
    anti-Industrustrial-Capitalist-Empire. It's a global
    civilization, now.

    I'd be careful about getting carried away with this common
    sense stuff, MY. They'll throw you out of the Masonic Lodge.

    :)

    You nailed it there: They must control our minds if they are
    going to control our behavior. There are a few would-be thought
    police on these forums, actually. A couple of psuedo-hippy bitches
    come to mind...

    I think the government does what the people really want
    it do, rather than actualizing the ideals they express and yearn to
    fulfill. For example: They say they want to save the planet,
    but they pursue super-materialistic goals...Actions speak
    louder than words, eh?

    You mean higher-order technologies, obviously. We'd sure be
    better off if those who still hadn't evolved beyond the need
    to fight had to do it face to face with hand-held weapons,
    wouldn't we?

    LIttlefoot
     
  5. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

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    Hi Mellow,
    I can relate to the arguement against, AND all the arguements FOR too. Sometimes it feels like it would just be simpler to get a lot farther out in the sticks and away from as much of the world's B.S. as possible, but that only fixes MY immediate problems. And ultimately, if "they" wish to find YOU badly enough they will, no matter how far away from civilization you are...

    I would end up feeling guilty or like there was something missing if I didn't keep one foot out there working actively for positive change. There are an AWFUL lot of people who are not as, I don't want to say "not as intelligent", but maybe they just don't have enough common sense or strength or drive or whatever. But however ya want to call it, they don't have what it takes to stand up to the machine. It's sort of like they were just kids yet, or maybe foreigners who don't understand the language real well. It makes a body feel like they should try to hang around and help these guys who can't seem to help themselves...

    That's really the crux of the matter, total escape is fine for a while, I've done it. You go about your life and whatever goes on in the rest of the world just goes right on by. You know nothing about it and it has no apparent effect on your life, while other folks in the "real" world worry about everything from money to global warming to wars to human catastrophies... But it occurs to me that while I'm on permanent vacation from the "civilized" world, the place could very well fall completely apart and I would have had no forwarning, nor would I have done anything to try to stop it.

    You never know who might randomly come along and make a positive impact. It seems like many folks who get famous for big things, it just is luck and happens because they happen to be in the right place doing the right thing at the right time. The chances of someone making some positive inroads grows the more people there are actually WORKING at it. If I don't try, I'll never know if I could have helped fix something that's broken. So I won't give up on this barbaric "civilized" world just yet, I'll hang around and see what good I can accomplish.

    Peace,
    Earthmother (the bitch);)
     
  6. Littlefoot

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    If you move out "in the sticks" and are living a genuinely Earth-friendly lifestyle then
    you are doing more than fixing your own problems. You are setting an example
    for others to follow.

    Actions speak louder than words, by orders of magnitude.

    And you and your friends are no longer harming the Earth yourselves, or
    paying others to do it for you.

    These are both very good things.

    The fact that you can't engage in mass advertising isn't a problem. Word of
    mouth is more effective, because it only makes its way to those who can
    benefit from the knowledge. Who are ready to follow your example.

    People can visit without ever having to know exactly where it is. I have
    spent time in several such communities and couldn't tell you where they
    are.

    I am obviously not talking about the typical "commune", which is
    nothing but a rural suburb, but a self-sufficient and sustainable community
    that isn't stepping on the rights of other species.

    Because the members of such a community have no need to obtain supplies
    from the dominant civilization it is very easy for them to remain invisible
    with respect to members of that dominant civilization.

    Another thing that contributes to their invisibity is their Earth-friendly lifestyle.
    Like the other animals of the forest, their homes are not easy to identify
    because they treat the land with respect, they don't run roughshod over it.
    They blend in. They live in harmony with Nature.

    Plus, Americans (etc.) just don't walk. They drive. Absolutely no one walks
    over most of the mountain forests of the western United States. Those who
    do like to hike almost always stay on well-developed trails.

    That includes the hunters and fisherpersons. They rarely get more than a
    hundred yards from the roads. I know this from years of observation while
    lving in the mountains.

    Another camouflaging factor is the giant egos of Americans. They really
    believe that everyone in the world wants to live like them, and don't
    believe that any rational person could choose to live otherwise. And
    irrational people obviously couldn't do what we are talking about here.

    You'll have to pardon me here, Earthmother, but the people who do such
    things are not as ignorant in this area as you obviously are. They educated
    themselves before they began their projects.

    They put out no light at night, and do noisy work either inside or during
    storms, don't put out any smoke, and take the necessary steps to hide
    their infrared signature so that planes and helicopters and satellites
    don't spot them. This is not difficult to do.

    It is possible that they could be spotted by military surveillance satellites,
    but they'd have to work very hard at it. Their amazing electron sensors
    only work when focussed on very small areas of land and under ideal
    weather conditions. There are over 300,000 square miles in the Rocky
    Mountains, and it would take them decades to search all of it.

    These devices just aren't designed to look for people who are living in
    harmony with Nature. They are looking for people who live variations
    of their own lifestyle. Or like hunter-gatherers in the "Third World".

    Their time is very expensive and they have other priorities. A lot of
    them. Looking for possible camouflaged villages of harmless hippies
    living in the mountains isn't high on their list.

    In fact, if you tried to get them to do that, they'd laugh you out of the
    building if you didn't have concrete evidence. And how would you get
    that?

    Littlefoot

    "The greatest fine art of the future will be the making of a
    comfortable living from a small piece of land."

    -- Abraham Lincoln
     
  7. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

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    1. I wasn't addressing you. Unless you are Mellow Yellow.

    2. What did you call me again? "Ignorant" this time? I think it was "bitch" last time...

    3. If I was living hidden in a secret society in a secret place I certainly wouldn't want you to know about it, you'd tell the world on some forum after pissing everyone off... And I'm just the sort who would go looking...
     
  8. cosmicdust

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    - GROUP CONSCIOUNESS FOR GIGA-SOCIAL CHANGES -

    This has been a VERY GOOD thread! "Hippy.com-ers" are actually thinking and learning here, then hopefully they will go out into the REAL world and "WALK their TALK", which hopefully results in TRUE, POSITIVE changes in our wordly existence! "HOT air" (only talk) is good only for blowing up balloons! You must put some wear on your footware, here, but of course, with the proper IDEALS in your mind's "eye".

    TRUE CHANGE starts INWARD, then expands OUTWARD, like a BIG BANG, or a NUCLEAR EXPLOSION!!! There are SUPERFICIAL changes (the "Illusion" of OUR SHARED-REALITY), than their are hidden, INTERNAL (hyper-dimensional) CHANGES)! SOURCE-GOD figured-out that the best place to hide himself, was INSIDE of MAN! The last place that MAN would look! INTERNAL DIMENSIONS!

    PSYCHOLOGICAL HEALING and GOOD BUSINESS SOLUTIONS begin with HONEST COMMUNICATION! Things in our world can change on a large scale, only through a change in our GROUP CONSCIOUSNESS!

    You can't build a house with only one brick! It takes many bricks, operating in UNISON (i.e. group consciousness), in a certain structure-"matrix", to complete a "higher-order structure". This is basic science! Your HUMAN BODY is composed of MILLIONS (BILLIONS?) of individual CELLS ("life-forms'), but they combine to form a "higher-order" BIOLOGICAL lifeform - YOU! Then, our HUMAN BODIES combine to form "SOCIETIES" and PLANETS. STARS and PLANETS combine to form GALAXIES - which look very "CELL-like" (or what I call "CELLULAR-theory").

    "ROME wasn't built in a DAY!" It takes a certain time-period for change to occur. It ain't going to happen overnight (unless you're some MYSTICAL, MAGICAL "Time Lord")! A LONG WALK, to a specified destination, BEGINS WITH A FIRST STEP! The NATIVE AMERICANS, also have a saying: "Don't critcize your neighbor, until you've walked a MILE in their MOCASSINS!"

    Alot of SCIENCE FICTION stories are based upon the idea that we have many advanced technologies, but we are "unwise" or "mentally, spiritually and/or emotionally" IMMATURE to use them properly! WISDOM is the PROPER application of KNOWLEDGE. We KNOW of things, but are not WISE enough to make good decisions toward the MOST HARMONIOUS FUTURE TIME-LINES!

    IT's NOT A HARDWARE (TECHNOLGICAL) PROBLEM, IT'S A SOFTWARE (OUR MIND PATTERNS) PROBLEM!!!

    We are like a child playing with matches! We don't use what TECHNOLOGY we do have PROPERLY! We use the WRONG technologies in the WRONG places! We exist within a UNIVERSAL SCHOOL, we must learn our lessons toward SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION! Then, we may enter to THE NEXT LEVEL -NEXUS- of a "higher order" of spiritual existence!

    - A QUANTUM AND "ACTION VIEW" PHYSICS INTERPRETATION OF: GROUP CONSCIOUSNESS, CHANGING ONE'S "REALITY MATRIX -
    (OR: HOW TRUE "PEACE ON EARTH" CAN BE ACHIEVED!!!)

    1) The universe is not contained in anything it contains itself.
    2) Will exists within the confines of our space-time continuum and does not go beyond.
    3) We influence our futures (and pasts) directly with thought.
    4) Every thought, every dream is an awareness of another reality which co-exists.
    5) Individual awareness can be guided to the most harmonious of futures. As all futures and pasts, exist concurrently - THE ETERNAL NOW.

    6) Our view of "I" (SELF) is expanding, from QUANTUM to ACTION VIEW PHYSICS.
    7) Stopping the world along the path of least action can change ordinary reality. (Concept ulilized by the: DON JUAN book series, by Carlos Castenda.) The act of "observation" allows formation of new paths of least action.
    8) Changing the I / NOT-I awareness can change ordinary reality.
    9) Basic energy relations manifest concurrently throughout an indefinate number of levels of perception. We just experience the relation differently at different levels.
    10) We are influenced by the stars. We influence the stars. We are the stars! With a change of in conscioiusness we could become aware of ourselves as galaxies or as other participations at other perception levels. [This is what powerful PSYCHEDELIC DRUGS (LSD, DMT, Salvia Divinorum) do (in MEGA-doses)!]

    11) Are the patterns in the brain the same as those of the universe? All the universe, all the microcosmos, the brain - act similary, constantly switching on and off in multiple connectedness.
    12) Communication with others is us talking to ouselves so that knowledge can reemerge.
    13) As the universes interpenetrate, knowledge can come in many forms, so if we hear from a spaceman, a burning bush or the heavens themselves, they may be projections of the real us, "real" illusions that are related to our experience, so that we can accept them and LEARN! (These projections ARE realities - equally as "real" as the illusion we share as ourselves as being "real".
    14) Reincarnation from the past or from the future are also "ouselves" talking to "ourselves". (Localizing or focusing on an abstraction - a "real" illusion, so that we may learn.) Well, DUH!!!!
    15) MORE AWARENESS CAN COME, CONSCIOUSNESS CAN CHANGE. (As we understand what we are not, we become aware of the indefinite number of ouselves coexisting concurrently throughtout "time".)

    16) We don't have to learn how to control or direct energies. All we have to do is allow consciousness to find us!
    17) THE WAY OF THE NEW ERA:
    A) Understand ARCHETYPAL ACTIONS.
    B) Think of an event that is in harmony with archetypal actions/nature.
    C) New paths of least actions can develope and build - guiding your awareness to that harmony.
    D) AND THOUGHT BECOMES EXPERIENCE!!!
    18) There is NO DEATH, only a change of awareness, a change of COSMIC ADDRESS! The REAL "I" is beyond SPACE-TIME!!! (Comment: "Boy, that's a relief! A real "load off of my mind! NO DEATH?!)
    19) THERE IS ONLY CHANGE!
    20) WE MUST UNDERSTAND THE BASICS! A change in consciousness is LOST without a real understanding. With UNDERSTANDING, the direction of awareness can be influenced.

    21) WHEN THOUGHT AND EXPERIENCE BECOME ONE, CONSCIOUNESS HAS CHANGED!!! If enough people (projections of ourselves), are aware of the HARMONIES OF PEACE in the universal layers, CONFLICT AND FEAR CAN DIMINISH! ALL IS CONSTRUCTED FROM THOUGHT!!! JUST A THOUGHT!

    TRUE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS should teach:

    "This was the significance of JESUS! BUDDHA! and a handful of others throughout history - TO SHOW THE INTERPENETRATION OF THE UNIVERSES - TO REUNITE OURSELVES TO OURSELVES!!!"
    "So NOW - with incredible energy locked into SPACE-TIME,
    It may take 1,000? Or 10,000? "AWARE" INDIVIDUALS,
    TO RELEASE THAT ENERGY TOWARD A TRANSFORMATION TOWARD CONSCIOUSNESS!!!"
    "AS WE TURN INWARD, we realize I DIRECTLY AFFECT THE UNIVERSES. I TAKE DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY!!!
    DON'T WAIT FOR THE GURU!
    DON'T WAIT FOR THE MESSIAH!
    DON'T WAIT FOR THE SECOND COMING!
    THE REAL "I" IS HERE NOW - WITHIN!

    WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!!"

    SOURCE - (PAPERBACK BOOK EDITION):
    SPACE-TIME AND BEYOND, By Bob Toben and Fred Alan Wolf, BANTAN BOOKS, NY, Copyright C 1975, 1982, By Bob Toben. PAGES: 90 - 113.

    It took me some time to learn and understand QUANTUM PHYSICS and ACTION VIEW PHYSICS, but they are THE BASIS for understanding HYPER-DIMENSIONAL PHYSICS, and a better understanding of our universe.

    GOOD LUCK on trying to understand those sciences! This is THE EDGE of MANKIND's understanding of the universe! "Earthmother" is correct when she states that there is so much MANKIND DOESN'T KNOW! Even scientists know this much! What about DARK MATTER, higher-dimensions, parallel-universes and the billions of stars and galaxies in our KNOWN UNIVERSE (that we haven't even traveled to, yet)? Did anyone mention BUBBLE UNIVERSES, beyond ours (my own theory)!!!

    "Come SO FAR, yet SO FAR to go."
    "SO FAR TO GO, YET SO LITTLE TIME."

    Did someone mention: "WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!!". Maybe it was Theoritical Physicists - BOB TOBEN and FRED ALAN WOLF? I could use a good, HOT, steaming cup of "JOE", right about NOW! I can smell it in THE ETERNAL NOW! It is cold and snowy, in Michigan, RIGHT NOW!

    GO OUT NOW, and INITIATE some GOOD SOCIAL-GROUP CONSCIOUSNESS!!!

    Peace, love, and a better understanding of our universe . . .
     
  9. Littlefoot

    Littlefoot Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    cosmicdust,

    Well said.

    Ever read the Seth Material? If you haven't, it's a library of some 27 volumes that's worth
    more than every other science/religious/esoteric book in the whole world. I'd trade every
    one of them for the Seth Material, in a blink. And I've read dozens of them, from the Tibetan
    Book of the Dead to the Urantia Book to the Bible to the Upanishads to Patanjali's Yoga
    Sutras to A Course in Miracles to the works of Carlos Castaneda to the Pali Canon....

    http://www.sethcenter.com

    http://mssa.library.yale.edu/findaids/stream.php?xmlfile=mssa.ms.1090.xml

    Littlefoot
     
  10. Littlefoot

    Littlefoot Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Earthmother,

    There's nothing wrong with ignorance. We all have a lot to learn in
    various areas.

    It's implying (pretending) that one is knowledgable in a particular area when
    one isn't, that is a problem.

    Littlefoot
     
  11. Mellow Yellow

    Mellow Yellow Electrical Banana

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    I haven't thrown in the towel. I'll still be at next week's ACLU meeting, whether or not I can make a difference.

    A few years back when bush stole the last election, my wife and I talked about leaving the country, a lot of people did. We decided that we had a responsibility to stay to affect change, and indeed we may still have a shot at it, but we may need to face the fact that it's not possible. Buddha teaches us that our attachments limit us. In my case, the attachments are very real: friends, family, children, I'm not gonna just let that go, but I'm willing to accept the idea that my attachment to affect change may be counter productive, time will tell.

    Quote me however you like, hell, make it your own, but please do not mis-quote me or use what I say out of context. I was referring to our government, which seems to be more and more intent upon invading my privacy, to the point where they may soon be invading my thoughts. I would not use the word "bitch" to describe one who I've come to know as a voice of reason over the past few years. I come here for ideas and perspectives, not for alliances and adversaries.
     
  12. cosmicdust

    cosmicdust Member

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    Mellow Yellow,

    Al Gore's concept of GLOBAL WARMING may be from MIS-INFORMATION or DIS-INFORMATION (INTELLIGENCE terms):

    1) MIS-INFORMATION - Being provided with MIS-leading and/or false theories, data and/or conclusions. In this situation, a person HONESTLY believes what they're saying is ACCURATE and TRUE! But REALLY isn't!
    JUNK SCIENCE fits this category, precisely. Sometimes we must start with LIES, MIS-UNDERSTANDINGS and SPECULATIONS, to get at the truth (on subjects we know nothing about, i.e. we're "clueless" on)! We learn from TRIALS and ERRORS!

    2) DIS-INFORMATION - Falsely-crafted information (i.e. KNOWINGLY UNTRUE), which is highly AGENDA-BASED, to be used as a DISTRACTION (DECEPTION ) away from the real TRUTH, by creating many "false-leads", and ultimately CONFUSE people so much, they don't know what to believe, anymore (then hopefully, the people just give-up their quest for the real TRUTH)! Dis-information is commonly used in ESPIONAGE, by INTELLIGENCE ORGANIZATIONS, SECRET SOCIETIES AND GOVERNMENTS and SOCIAL ENGINEERS. It is a big part of PSYCHOLOGICAL-OPERATIONS ("psy-ops" - BLACK OPS and MAGIC OPS), including PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE and SOCIAL ENGINEERING.

    The "911-TRUTH" MOVEMENT is currently being HEAVILY-attacked by PSY-OPS. They create ridiculous versions of the 911 EVENT, such as the "NO PLANES theory" and many other "falsely-created" versions. Most of these "psy-ops" theories are to divert 911 truth seekers, away from the TRUTH, by having them considering MANY viable alternative theories and start looking in many WRONG directions. CONFUSION and DOUBTS soon rise. Hopefully, they just give-up their TRUTH searching!

    Yes, the TRUE PERPETRATORS of the 911 EVENT, create their own "conspiracy theories" against themselves! It's a DEFENSIVE maneuver! Another dis-information strategy is to create a VERY CONVINCING "conspiracy theory" (i.e. THE BAIT), REEL-in as many SUCKER FISH as possible, then DISCREDIT the story (providing alot of evidence - to DE-BUNK), which makes them look like FOOLS (and thus, they are DISCREDITED).

    If Al Gore was providing us with MIS-INFORMATION, then he probably HONESTLY believed what he was doing was "GOOD for the people" and his own self, i.e being ALTRUISTIC, or would he be AL-GORE-TRUISTICl In this situation, I'd have some EMPATHY toward Al Gore, for him to be honestly-deceived, but I'd like a PRESIDENT that's more wise and intuitive, by knowing how to "scrape the BS of of THE TRUTH" (LENNY BLOOM / Canadian Investigational Journalist - CLOAK and DAGGER website), much better! But most PROMINENT POLITICIANS just SHOVEL the BS, instead of SCRAPING it off of the truth!

    If Al Gore is knowingly providing us with DIS-INFORMATION, then he may have some kind of ILLUMINATI, Secret Society, and/or OCCULT-ties, and just produced the usual HOLLYWOOD Agenda-based, Socially Engineeried BRAIN CANDY! In this situation, I wouldn't have much respect for him!

    I don't know for sure, of Al Gore's TRUE INTENTIONS, so I cannot make an accurate judgement. However, either way, whether MIS- or DIS-INFORMATION, Al Gore is deceiving us!

    - DISBANDING TECHNOLOGY and RETURNING TO NATURE, FOR HUMANKIND'S "PEACE OF MIND" -

    Many posters on this thread mention "returning back to nature", and use as little "technology" as possible. We live in the era of FUTURE SHOCK (Book by Alvin Toffler - 1970), where we have TOO MANY CHOICES to make, in TOO SHORT of time. This situation is very OVERWHELMING (and HIGHLY STRESS-FULL), which results in a condition known as: SENSORY OVERLOAD. It's like in some SciFI TV series/movies, that portray a computer "flipping-out" from too much information-INPUT, and start saying: "That dos NOT compute! That does NOT compute! ...".

    Being way out in NATURE helps provide a relief (natural tranquilizer) against SENSORY OVERLOAD and provides a "quiet time", on which we can collect our thoughts. HENRY DAVID THOREAU (philosopher, naturalist, development critic and author) was an excellant example of this! Thoreau produced many fine literaray works, while living in a cabin in the woods! He wrote the fine book: WALDEN ("a reflection upon SIMPLE LIVING in natural surroundings." (LINK: http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_David_Thoeau ). His IQ was believed to be about 200 - GENIUS)!

    I felt many times of just going out into the DEEP WOODS of MICHIGAN to "live off of the land" and "commune with nature", just like many of our NATIVE AMERICANS, have, and sort of do, today. It'd be GOOD for awhile, anyway. MICHIGAN has plenty of fresh water, natural plant foods, fish and other animals, for food, so it's alot easier to live off of, than having a plot of land in the desert! There's also alot of wood (lumber), rocks, gravel and sand for construction.

    - DOMESTIC SPYING TECHNIQUES -

    As far as EFFECTIVLEY hiding in the woods, against any possible NWO-type "government surveillance", it would be almost imposssible, with the given HIGH-TECH SURVILLANCE and SPY-GEAR, that is available, today, such as: INFRA-RED imaging, ULTRA-VIOLET (UV)-imaging, "Night Vision", SATELLITE SURVEILLANCE, Atomic Signature Recognition (ASR) Technologies (RUSSIA) and flying SPY-DRONES. Even the Detroit Metro Area News Team helicopters are equipped with "infra-red" imaging and/or NIGHT VISION, and it's very easy to pick out the "heat signature" of a human being, even hiding in a forest!!!

    Check out this article on FLYING SPY-DRONES:
    SOURCE: "Drones: Military Reverses Alien Technology The Most Important Information Released This Decade", By "Isaac" (June 27, 2007)
    LINK: www.metatech.org/07/drones_military_reverse_engineering_alien_technology.html
    SOURCE: "Explanation of the Recent "Strange Craft" Sightings", By "Issac" - Commercial Applications Research for Extraterrestrial Technology (CARET), Palo Alto, California) (Q4-86 RESEARCH REPORT), PALO ALTO CARET LABORATORY
    LINK: http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com

    Older military "spy-drones" used simple propeller blades for lift and propulsion, like those "remote-controlled" model planes and helicopters, that you can buy at hobby stores. Newer ones could use some form of "anti-gravity" motor. Whether they are "alien technology reverse-engineered" , or good old "human engineering" is debatable, but they DO EXIST! There are also "SPY-cams", that look like DRAGONFLYS! One-small "BUG-like" SPY-cam (with foldable helicopter blades), was featured on the first SiFi TV SERIES show of: LEXX!

    Small. model plane (w/propeller propulsion) and "shape-shifting" wings SPY-PLANE: "Robotic spy plane uses shape-shifting wings", By Duncan Graham-Rowwe, 17:16 - 25 August 2005, NewScientist.com news service
    LINK: www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7903

    Believe me, if THEY want you BAD ENOUIGH, they WILL find YOU, unless you're really smart, and know COUNTER-MEASURES, but not many people would not know even where to begin, in these endeavors! Of course, "peaceful hippies", living in the woods wouldn't be a HIGH PRIORITY!

    - DEEP UNDERGROUND MILITARY BASES (DUMB'S) AND MAG-LEV SUBWAY TRAINS -

    Our own government (RUSSIA, too!) has SECRET UNDERGROUND BASES (self-supporting like SMALL CITIES), about 1-4 MILES UNDERGROUND (to HIDE in)! DO YOU? There are about two of these UNDERGROUND BASES per state, and ALL connected by an UNDERGROUND, conventional, highway system, and a high-speed (MACH 2) MAG-LEV (Magnetic-Levitation) SUBWAY train, which "floats" on a magnetic field and is propelled by a "computer-controlled", moving, MAGNETIC PULSE - to PULL it along. This MAG-LEV subway train is similar to a MAGNETIC-WAVE PROPULSION "RAIL GUN".

    The MAG-LEV train idea was featured in an old POPULAR SCIENCE issue (in the 60's or 70's). I may still have this issue! The MILITARY have this cool subway train system (operating for a few decades), but WE THE PEOPLE don't get to use it, even though we PAID for it through TAXES, and/or BLACKS OPS (CIA-drug dealing) "drug" monies! Oh well, SUCH IS LIFE!

    The BUSH's (both Sr. and Jr.) PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS, were ALL PRE-PLANNED by THE POWERS THAT BE! There is too much documenation and "EYE-witnesses" to prove this! VOTING FRAUD (FIXED ELECTIONS) - "hanging CHADS", my ass! The CIA supposedly has an interesting movie of JEB BUSH flying in a C-130 MILITARY TRANSPORT plane (taking off from HOMESTEAD AFB in Florida) filled with boxes of paper tally VOTES cards, flying out over the Atlantic Ocean and coming back EMPTY! (According to some FEDERAL WHISTLE-BLOWERS). What happened?

    On the other hand, we have COMMMUNIST GOAL (from: Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record --Appendix, pp. A34-A35, January 10, 1963) - "No. 15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States." Many ISRAELI's (and other citizens of foreign nations), believe that both (or all) POLITICAL PARTIES are just really ONE PARTY, controlled by ILLUMINATI, Communists, Zionists, Reptoids (David ICKE)), "Group Consciousness", or who ever?

    The MAIN POINT is that the SYSTEM remains basically the SAME, as we still have THE FEDERAL RESERVE and the IRS. It CAN be changed through "GROUP CONSCIOUSNESS", and RESULTING ACTIONS! It doesn't matter WHO "the puppet" is, in charge! Maybe, they're just a "reflection" of our "group consciousness"! Now, we dont like what we SEE, so we must change it! The UNIVERSE must change and create!

    According to OTTO SKORZENY (Hitler's bodyguard and SS spy/assasin, who died in 1999) the BUSH's real last name was SCHERFF, and that GEORGE H. SCHERFF (BUSH) , Jr.: "was trained as a spy and sent to America to work for Adolph Hiitler." In other words, "The "Bush" family was created to destroy America." SKORZENY's "death bed" confessions, plus "a shoe-box full of 60-years worth of his personal photographs" seemingly prove this!
    SOURCE: "George Bush Sr. (Scherff) IV Reich in the USA", By Don Nicoloff, April 2007, from: THE IDAHO OBSERVER website
    LINK: www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_bush19.htm

    CATHY O'BRIEN (Department of Defense/ ILLUMINATI SEX SLAVE, from Muskegon, Michigan), who gives many lectures of her experiences, said that she knew that BILL CLINTON would be elected President, when he was! It was all ILLUMINATI-planned! She said (in her lecture videos) that HILLARY CLINTON was "being GROOMED by the ILLUMINATI (Bilderbergers?)" to be the PRESIDENT ELECT in A.D . 2008! So much for REAL elections!!! WE have the ILLUSION of FREEDOM, and not TRUE FREEDOM!!!

    Let's pursue: LIFE, LIBERTY and the PERSUIT OF HAPPINESS!!! Not:
    LIES, SLAVERY and THE PERSUIT OF MISERY!!!

    LET FREEDOM RING!!!
     
  13. Littlefoot

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    Hey MY,

    He didn't steal the election. He was elected because he would do what almost
    all Americans, Left or Right, want done more than anything else: Whatever is
    necessary to maintain the American Dream, which is to say, to keep the possibility
    of them fulfilling their very materialistic goals alive. Controlling some of the world's
    largest oil reserves in a country with no environmental controls and very cheap
    labor where the government is a U.S. puppet is a big part of that picture.

    The only constant is change. Believing that we can't change is a serious impediment.

    By attachment, Buddha meant believing that the physical universe is all there is,
    that it causes itself.

    He also said, in the Cloud of Jewels Sutra in the Mahayana Texts, that we make
    our own realities with our minds. Our concepts.

    We must believe that we can create an Earthly paradise. That we are worthy of
    it.

    Littlefoot
     
  14. cosmicdust

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    Mellow Yellow,

    I'm very glad that you're not "throwing in the towel", as that is what THEY ("your perceived opponent to happiness") wants! I guarantee that "THEY" won't be throwing in their towels! Who are THEY? Who knows for sure? There are thousands of CONSPIRACY WEB-SITES that speculate who the real THEY (ruling "powers that be" - PTB), are! Are THEY humans, extra-dimensionals, ultra-dimensionals, or just a "reflection" of our higher SELVES?

    It doesn't matter who THEY are. It matters only how your thoughts combine with group consciouness to CHANGE REALITY! In QUANTUM PHYSICS there is only CHANGE! To CHANGE, the UNIVERSE must constantly CREATE. THOUGHTS structure CREATION. WE have INDIVIDUAL REALITIES, but OVER-LAPPING INDIVIDUAL REALITIES create SHARED REALITIES, or our current state of EXISTENCE.

    AS A GROUP CONSCIOUSNESS, we must structure and form a NEW and BETTER REALITY. Fighting THEY, or ourselves is a useless DIVERSION. WE must SHUN them, and create and structure our own REALITY!

    I'd like a more BACK TO NATURE - WORLD , but with a minimum of , carefully-chosen HIGH TECH items, to help CONCENTARTE toward SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION! Small. quaint HAMLETS (towns), instead of BIG CITIES. Beautiful flower gardens and ORGANIC gardens! Hand-crafted items would RULE! QUALITY, CREATIVITY and a greater SENSE of PURPOSE for our citizens!

    YOU MUST FIRST CREATE AND ENVISION YOUR NEW REALITY, PLUS USE ACTION! Then allow your consciousness, attract toward that POSSIBLE UNIVERSE, and the, THOUGHT and REALITY become ONE!

    As an individual, you can easily be "picked off" by THEY. But if you marched in WASHINGTON D.C., with a MILLION PEOPLE (all in unison), it's way more effective! You are now thinking as a GROUP, i.e. a "higher order" in the universe.

    Little Foot is correct about" "The only constant is change. Believing that we can't change is a serious impediment." and "...we make our own realities with our minds. Our concepts. We must believe that we can create an Earthly paradise. That we are worthy of it." OPPRESSED thoughts and beliefs are COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE to these ideals! BE ENCOURAGED!!!

    As far as ELECTIONS being FIXED , or not, who cares? A mere DISTRACTION in the focusing of one's Earthy paradise!

    FEDERAL WHISTLE-BLOWERS have a saying: "NEVER give up and NEVER give in!!!" It's like a TEST of WILLS. Who will back-down first? Or is it, who will throw in the towel first?

    However, William Cooper (an ex-military officer and PATRIOT, who died in a planned POLICE shoot-out in Arizona) always would emphasis: "HE who fires the FIRST SHOT, LOSES!" Why? Because they don't have the backing of THE PEOPLE (Group Consciousness). LENIN taught "SOCIALISM through REVOLUTION!" Don't PLAY their GAME! Create your own!

    Many AMERICANS feel like "jumping ship" to other countries, in a FIGHT or FLIGHT SURVIVAL mode! Who hasn't? Where are you going to go? COMMUNIST RUSSIA or CHINA? The RADIOACTIVE (Depleted URANIUM - URANIUM OXIDE) war-torn countries of THE MIDDLE EAST, or YUGOSLAVIA? Those horrible wars, diseases and starvation in AFRICA? Maybe some SOUTH-PACIFIC ISLANDS aren't too bad - TONGA and TASMANIA? NORTH AMERICA has 74% of the WORLD'S FRESH WATER SUPPLY!!! That's a BIG PLUS! The main question is: Can you really run-away (FLIGHT reaction) from yourself? You must take YOU, with you, where ever you go!

    In conclusion, NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER GIVE IN!!! Create and hold a STRONG image of your EARTHLY PARADISE in your minds "eye", and it will COME to you!

    "The more that you try to hold onto something, the more it will slip away from your hand." - DOWISM (CHINA)

    "Conspiracy theorists, it's easy to CRITICIZE! But you must COME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN! PEACEFUL PROTEST - Soft power is the best of all. That's ORIENTAL WISDOM." - BENJAMIN FULFORD (Ex- FORBES Foreign Correspondant/JAPAN)

    You can't FORCE change, you must allow your consciosness to find it, by focusing on the UNIVERSAL LAYER that contains your EARTHY PARADISE!

    Good look to a brighter future!
     
  15. Littlefoot

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    cosmicdust,

    Far fucking out!

    The impediments to believing that we can create an Earthly paradise are numerous. The
    Christians tell us that we are doomed to failure because of Original Sin. That Earthly life
    itself is tainted and the body an unworthy vessel of the Soul. That there is no hope of
    paradise on Earth but only in Heavan.

    The Darwinists tell us that we are the product of an evil Nature that is based upon
    violent competition for scarce resources. Their parent ideology, Physical Science,
    tells us that the universe is a mindless machine that happenned by accident. That
    all of our inner experiences are illusions.

    The Truth is that Nature is based upon loving cooperation. We are just projecting
    what we are at present upon Nature, and then justifying our actions by blaming
    them on a fantasy.

    The Truth is that the body is the Soul in chemical clothes.

    The Truth is that Earthly life is an expression of Divine Creativiy.

    The Truth is that inner reality is every bit as real as the physical
    universe.

    The Truth is that we don't have take anyone's word for anything. Neither
    the Christians nor the Darwinists and Physical Scientists can prove that
    their ideas are accurate. What they offer are simply theories that they have
    chosen to believe are facts.

    Littlefoot
     
  16. earthmother

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    I love your posts! I see so many things I can relate to.

    I have been aware of being able to "create your own reality" since I was a child. And all things considered , it works rather well. Even as an individual with NO group conciousness to back them up. It's why I have the life I do today.

    I've been suspicious for some time now that the REASON things of this world are so bad right now is because of the collective conciousness which is feeling mighty overwhelmed right about now. That perhaps the George Bushes of the world were truely not even really human any more, but a reflection of this feeling of having no control. And I 've wondered about what would happen if EVERYONE simply one day decided to STOP living by the myriad of ridiculous rules and regs that are forced down our throats daily by the "powers that be". Unfortunately, I believe the agenda is to totally CONFUSE everyone so that nobody quite knows where "they" are coming from and nobody is quite sure WHAT to do...

    I'm quite familiar with Thoreau as my dad, being a writer, a farmer, and a philosopher, was a great fan of his. I started reading Thoreau when I was about 11. We went to Walden pond on a "pilgrimage" when I was a kid...

    I too had thoughts of leaving the country (while I still could). I thought that the ANDES Mountains in Venezuela looked as good as any place I could find. But a more realistic (and easier) approach which may very well actually come to be eventually is just to move much farther out in the woods, away from any travelled roads etc. Not really so hard to do in these parts. But one of the criteria for such a place would be that there is NOT enough open land to put down a HELICOPTER...

    "THEY"-Terroristic Hierarchy of Evil Yuppies...
     
  17. Mellow Yellow

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    Cosmicdust, your stuff is great, thank you! It took me a while to absorb it, but I can visualize the Secret Society, where Clinton, Bush, Gore, and all the rest of those dudes hang out, snort their lines or whatever they do, and laugh at the rest of us. Furthermore, I've heard of this before, the secret societies, the under ground bunkers, transportation, etc., but never in the detail you've presented it. My theory is THEY've got all the solutions to our energy problems, like the carburator that gets over 100 mpg (the inventor "disappeared"). They just haven't let the cat outta the bag 'cause the economists won't let them, so they throw us bones like the hybrid cars to make us think we're doing good for the environment. After THEY have tapped us as much as they can for the oil, and they figure out that the economy is about to collapse because the oil's about to run out, THEY will start introducing those technologies that are sitting on some back shelf somewhere.

    And you're right, that's someone else's agenda (thank God, I wouldn't want that responsibility), so we might as well focus on the COSMIC LAYER that contains our EARTHLY PARADISE!

    Thoreau kicks ass, I'm fortunate enough that I live in his neck of the woods, so I can hike where he did, and I do.

    We might still go to South America if my wife goes for her PhD in Animal Science, she did a tour down there in the Peace Corps, taking care of animals, I'll go for the ride, what the hey.

    Be well.
     
  18. cosmicdust

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    "earthmother",

    On an INDIVIDUAL (by our SELVES) basis, WE STRUCTURE REALITY with our thoughts! INDIVIDUAL REALITIES "overlap" (inter-penetrate) to form our current REALITY "MATRIX" (as a GROUP CONSCIOUSNESS)! Welcome to THE MATRIX! Hello, my name is NEO. Watch for that BAD PROGRAM - Agent SMITH! (Movie: THE MATRIX)

    You're right to think that you can CREATE YOUR OWN REALITY, without GROUP CONSCIOUSNESS, because "thought" starts out as a POINT and EXPANDS OUTWARD, toward more COMPLEX UNIVERSAL LAYERS, like GROUP CONSCIOUSNESS! Of course, there is a time factor involved and some realities are just MORE PROBABLE, than others. Yet, with GOD: "ALL THINGS are POSSIBLE!" - THE BIBLE

    The INDIVIDUAL REALITIES that we create ourselves, INTER-REACT, RESONATE and HARMONIZE with all of the other INDIVIDUAL REALITIES (existing in the universe) to create a CONSENSUS-type of GROUP REALITY MATRIX. We are ALL INTER-CONNECTED by micro-level "WORMHOLES", by which connects us to the BEYOND-SPACE TIME universe! It is a type of UNIVERSAL HOLOGRAM (at INFINITE VELOCITY speed!). ALL INFORMATION exists WITHIN EVERYTHING!

    QUANTUM PHYSICS PRINCIPLES:

    1) "The whole of the universe, all knowledge is contained within each individual and each thing."
    2) "All are things interconnected in the microcomos."
    3) "Every part is directly connected to every other part through the wormholes of space."
    4) "At this level of quantum gravity, there is no time or distance seperating parts."
    5) "The description of any part is inseperable from the description of the whole."

    ANCIENT PROVERB - "Know a grain of sand completely and you know THE UNIVERSE IN ITS ENTIRETY."

    ANCIENT PROVERB - "If you cut a blade of grass, you shake the universe."
    (I'd better think twice, before I cut my lawn?)

    QUANTUM PHYSICS PRINCIPLE: "BEYOND SPACE-TIME IS EVERYWHERE. Within every point of ourselves. Within every point in space. Everything is made of whitehole/blackholes, so BEYOND SPACE-TIME is NOT out there, it is not beyond the galaxies, IT IS WITHIN EVERYTHING."

    THE INTERNAL UNIVERSE is IMPLODING, while the EXTERNAL UNIVERSE is EXPLODING. (A seperate subject for one of my future posts.)

    Some call the MATERIAL of the universe - COSMIC FOAM (or COSMIC SWISS-CHEESE - Care for a slice, on a cracker?), which is mostly composed of micro-BLACKHOLES (REVERSE TIME flow - SUCKS IN) and micro-WHITEHOLES (FOWARD TIME flow - BLOWS OUT), ALL connected together through WORMHOLES (created by micro-SINGULARITIES), connected to CONSCIOUSNESS (which is TRANSMITTED from the BEYOND-SPACE TIME UNIVERSE, by QUANTUM WAVES). THE PENROSE DIAGRAM (a mathematical abstraction) explains part of this.

    COSMIC FOAM (COSMIC SWISS CHEESE) - "Slice a section of 4th-dimensional SPACE-TIME and observe it in a FIXED COSMIC TIME period. The microstructure of 3-dimensional space resembles a constanly FLUCTUATING SWISS CHEESE. Information transmits through the wormholes at ordinary speeds (which appears to be faster than the speed of light for observers outside the wormholes) connecting all points in space with all others in an indefinate number of possible patterns, constantly changing, and turning on and off at incredible frequencies up to 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times per second."
    (Does this mean that the UNIVERSE is DIGITAL, since it turns ON and OFF, like a BINARY switch. on a MICRO-COSMIC level?)

    QUANTUM PHYSICS PRINCIPLE: "The pattern of the COSMIC SWISS CHEESE self-organize in a manner similar to that of the human brain. Self-organization is necessary for our current scientific definition of LIFE. So, if everything is made of COSMIC SWISS CHEESE, everything is probably ALIVE."
    "Is there life in EVERYTHING? At the submicroscopic level, everything is moving, changing, vibrating, growing, dissipating."
    (I always believed that EVERYTHING is ALIVE, but with different levels and complexities of "consciousness" and reacting to EMOTIONS, since I was a CHILD!!!)

    COSMIC CONSCIOUSNESS is considered to be at the top, then there is a BARRIER into the BEYOND-SPACE TIME ZONE, or UNIVERSE, which we know little about, but can THEORIZE its influences, and constructs affecting our regular SPACE-TIME UNIVERSE! PURE CONSCIOUSNESS exists in BEYOND SPACE-TIME!

    IMAGINE a vast ocean (with waves - VIBRATIONS/FREQUENCIES), with its surface covered with small black and white styrofoam balls, to get a simplistic view of what QUANTUM PHYSICS talks about. WE just SURF theses WAVES! We're COSMIC SURFERS!!! Like "hang ten", Daddio!

    QUANTUM PHYSICS PRINCIPLE: "SPACE IS NOT NOTHINGNESS!!! It is a turbulence of constantly appearing and disappearing (virtual) mini blackholes and mini whiteholes, both of either positive or negative mass.

    SPACE (vacuum) is really filled with COSMIC FOAM, and isn't EMPTY at all!!! There is where FREE ENERGY comes from, or what ex-ARMY Colonel TOM BEARDEN calls: ENERGY FROM THE VACUUM! Energy is channeled through micro-BLACKHOLES (IN) and micro-WHITEHOLES (OUT), via micro-WORMHOLES, connecting to BEYOND-SPACE TIME, by QUANTUM WAVES (acting as a CARRIER WAVE for PURE COSCIOUSNESS)!

    QUANTUM PHYSICS PRINCIPLES (directly-related to THOUGHT structuring our REALITY):

    1) "The physical universe does NOT exist independent of the thought of the particpators."
    2) "We construct ouselves and we construct each other beyond TIME."
    3) "As perceived within space-time, these units are self-organizing."
    4) "Fields organize in a double-flow process." (PHASE-CONJUNCT)
    5) "All we can think or perceive is brought into awareness with our individual thoughts."

    6) "Each INDIVIDUAL UNIVERSE construction also contains an indefinate number of OTHER universes, with all variations and all other possibilities."
    7) "In constantly changing patterns, each individual universe forms all others, and each universe is connected to each other and ALL OTHERS."
    8) "What is BEYOND the UNIVERSES is INCOMPREHENSIBLE. Four-dimensional space-time breaks down in gravitational colapse and ALL LAWS OF PHYSICS ARE TRANSCENDED!"
    10) "The continually changing connections among the individual universes and the formation of all the individual realities constitute a CONTINUAL PROCESS. THERE IS NO BEGINNING AND THERE IS NO END." "ONLY CHANGE."

    11) "For each of us, an indefinate number of universes exists simultaneously."
    12) "The ORDINARY reality we perceive is NOT ONE UNIVERSE. It is the HARMONY of phases of movements of an indefinite number of universes."
    13) "ALL THINGS are POSSIBLE, but some are MORE PROBABLE."
    14) "All things are interconnected in the microcosmos. Every part is directly connected to every other pert through the wormholes in space. At this level of quantum gravity, there is no time or distance seperating parts. The description of any part is inseperable from the description of the whole."

    15) "Connections cannot be perceived in ordinary states of consciousness. However, if we could really SEE, you and I are RIPPLES in the turbulent sea of space."
    16) "TIME IS NOT ABSLOUTE, SPACE IS NOT ABSLOUTE. In a strong gravitational field relative to that of the observer, TIME GOES SLOWER and DIMENSIONS CONTRACT from the view of the observer."
    17) "A classical particle may have NO FIXED SIZE because GRAVITY changes space and time."
    18) "SPACE is a construct of thought."
    19) "MATTER may be nothing but gravitational trapped light (energy)." "LIGHT chasing itself in GRAVITATIONAL COLLAPSE! A vibrating RING of LIGHT." "Forming a QUANTUM (mini) BLACKHOLE. (At the SINGULARITY inside the BLACKHOLE, there is NO SPACE AND TIME."
    20) "SUBNUCLEAR PARTICLES are merely ripples in the turbulent sea of space."

    21) "ATOMS are formed by interactions between VIBRATIONAL PATTERNS."
    22) "BEYOND SPACE TIME IS EVERWHERE!"
    23) "QUANTUM WAVES may be the CARRIER of CONSCIOUNESS from BEYOND SPACE-TIME."
    24) "VIBRATIONS OF THOUGHT PATTTERNS in specific frequencies structure all MATTER and LIGHT as we experience it." "A HAM ON RYE is merely a RIPPLE, or FLUCTUATION constructed by THOUGHT, in the QUANTUM FOAM of SPACE."
    25) "THOUGHT structures MATTER." "One HAM ON RYE coming up!"

    Now you KNOW how we can CREATE OUR OWN REALITIES, from a QUANTUM PHYSICS perspective! PHYSICS just EXPLAINS, HOW and WHY THINGS WORK!

    SO WHY ARE WE HERE AT ALL?

    "SPACE-TIME is here just to have SOMETHING TO DO. So we PLAY THE GAME. We DANCE the DANCE. The JOY is in the CHANGE. The PROCESS. NOT the ATTAINMENT. We may never completely experience BEYOND-SPACE TIME, yet we DANCE toward it!"

    "You cannot be aware of what is BEYOND SPACE-TIME, but you can walk in this DREAM in contact with the HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS that is THE REAL YOU! IT WILL FIND YOU!"

    "REALIZE every EVENT in the indefinate number of universes is INFLUENCED BY YOU! Realize THERE IS LIFE IN EVERYTHING. Realize you are NOT WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TAUGHT. Allow CONSCIOUSNESS to UNITE WITH YOU! And someday, we won't stop smiling! When we WALK, we'll FLOAT and LIGHT WILL POUR FROM OUR EYES."

    "THE INTREPETATION OF THE UNIVERSES HAS BEGUN."

    Most quotes from: SPACE-TIME AND BEYOND, By Bob Toben and Fred Alan Wolf, BANTAM BOOKS, NY, Copyright C 1975, 1982.

    Ever notice that, when you go on vacation it is THE JOURNEY that is more INTRIGUING than THE FINAL DESTINATION, itself! UNLESS it's AN AMUSEMENT PARK!!! Also, some INDIGO and/or CRYSTALLINE CHILDREN have been observed to have LIGHT coming from their eyes (as QUANTUM PHYSICS says it could happen)!!!

    LIVE AND LEARN, and just ENJOY LIFE - THE COSMIC DANCE!!! CREATE YOUR OWN EARTHY PARADISE!!!
     
  19. Littlefoot

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    Howdy, MY.

    Of course they laugh at us. Because we do all the work. If we quit working for,
    consuming the goods and services of, and investing in, the corporations, they'd
    be up shit creek without a paddle.

    We create them, they don't create us. They exist because they are what most
    of us think we want to be.

    But they really don't have very good lives. They are isolated from most of society,
    phsyically and culturally and socially. They have few, if any, real friends, because
    everyone wants their money and influence. They can't trust anyone. They are
    treated like gods by most people, not fellow human beings. They have no
    privacy at all. If they aren't surrounded by servants or assistants, their
    bodyguards are there....Their choices are very limited. They _have_
    to have "the best".

    As for all that money? How much can a person use? They have huge houses and
    yet they are rarely home and have to share them with strangers completely
    out of their social class, the hired help needed to maintain their mansions.
    How many rooms can you use?

    How many cars can you drive? How many gourmet meals can you eat?

    Most of their money is invested in stocks and bonds, which keep the corporations
    healthy and providing lots of jobs and retirements for lesser folks. The rest is
    in bank accounts available for lesser folks to borrow. Or in charitable foundations
    that give grants to students and universities and hospitals and not--for-profit
    ogs. The middle class gets a lot back for putting them on pedestals and scape-
    goating them.

    And all that consumption they do is money that goes into the pockets of
    middle class people. Like the workers who build their mansions and the
    waiters serve them at the elite restaurants....

    They don't really have that much money. Bill Gates has 53 billion. Divide
    that among the 500 million middle class in the world and they each get
    $106.00 one time. Chickenfeed. Compare that to the amount of wealth
    held by the middle class. It's a drop in the bucket.

    They are really just sky anchors on the system. They make the decisions that
    keep the money-making machine running as smoothly as it can for the benefit
    of the middle class.


    Littlefoot
     
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    Many posters on this thread mention: wanting to leave the USA, or TAKE FLIGHT, because of FEARS of a coming (or current) NEGATIVE POLITICAL CLIMATE, such as a New World Order, NAZI REGIME, or a COMMUNIST REGIME! They're your basic OPPRESSIVE, "ALPHA MALE" regimes! World War 3 could happen, also! However, if you move away (take FLIGHT) because it will be a new LEARNING experience, than that is a very POSITIVE reason to move away from your given HOMELAND! More power to you!!!

    HOMELAND SECURITY? What a big JOKE!!! BRUTAL DICTATORS are worse than the ENEMIES that they're trying to protect us from! JOSEPH STALIN was a good example! The UKRAINIAN people "revolted" against STALIN, and he starved many of them to death! DICTATORS commonly use FOOD SUPPLY, as a SOCIAL CONTROL WEAPON, by depriving people of it! BIOLOGICAL WARFARE is another common ploy of DICTATORS!

    "earthmother",

    In your last post to me, you mention that you may like to move to the ANDES mountains in VENEZUELA. At his United Nations (UN) speech, El Presidente HUGO CHAVEZ (of VENEZUELA) made the CATHOLIC "sign of the cross" with his arm and hand, and called PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH, Jr.: "DIABLO" (meaning DEVIL, in SPANISH). He also remarked that he: "...smelled FIRE and BRIMSTONE", whenever GEORGE W. BUSH Jr. comes near him! Of course, previous to CHAVEZ's UN speech, the AMERICAN CIA made attempts to ASSASSINATE Mr. CHAVEZ! BUSH wants to have VENEZUELA's OIL SUPPLIES! So BUSH and CHAVEZ aren't on the best speaking terms!

    CITGO buys their petroleum from VENEZUELA, because GASOLINE is sold to VENEZUELIAN Citizens for $0.12/ GALLON! WAGES are sortof crappy, as you may get $300/month, but the cost of living may be very cheap!

    I LOVE coffee from the HIGH ANDES MOUNTAINS, GUATEMALA and PERU!

    "Mellow Yellow" is thinking about moving to South America, too, so here are some possibilities:

    Many AMERICANS retire in the GOOD parts of MEXICO, COSTA RICA and PANAMA CITY. PANAMA is constructing a very nice retirement city for RICHER AMERICANS, on one of their ISLAND ATOLLS! CHILE grows many fine fruits, which is another fine place to possibily move too. ARGENTINA suppesedly ain't too bad either. Brush up on that SPANISH, Senorita! BRAZIL is heavy into BIO-FUELS for their cars! Just do alot of research on the place that you plan to move to, and take a short vacation, there.

    If you're into SOUTH PACIFIC ISLANDS, HAWAII is nice, but is still an AMERICAN STATE. It is a very beautiful island! Very SPIRITUAL! It is believed to be a small piece of land left-over from the ancient continent of LEMURIA (MU), that once existed in the PACIFIC OCEAN! Need I mention KONA GOLD and MAUI COFFEES, and "MAUI WOWWIE" (papaya-tasting) MARY JANE (pot)?

    The famous painters of VINCENT VAN GOGH and PAUL GAUGAIN loved to go to (and live) in the beautiful ISLAND of TAHITI, which has decent mountains and clean waters. The "friendly islands" of TONGA don't sound too bad! The island of TASMANIA, south of Australia is another good choice! I've thought about moving to AUSTRALIA, or NEW ZEALAND. Howdy, MATE! How about a walkabout the billybong!

    If you live out in the wilderness, in the good ole USA, don't forget about those 64,000 black helicopters (black ops)! One of my mother's friends considered herself to be a PATRIOT. She was mostly an old-fashioned, CHRISTIAN (church-going) farm woman, who is still "partially-blind". She divorced her husband, and moved to an old farmhouse (and farm) just south of SAGINAW BAY, in MIchigan, where she lives by herself. I admire her for that! She does have a few cats, too. It reminded me of AUNTIE "EM" (DORTHY, TOTO)'s house and farm in the WIZARD OF OZ. I kept my eye out for "flying monkeys"!

    Me and my middle brother, went up there (in the Springtime of last year - 2007). MY mother's PATRIOT friend said she actually saw one BLACK HELICOPTER up there, but that's all! There are big military planes that fly low over farms (growing mostly corn) in Michigan's THUMB-area (known for THE MICHIGAN MILITA movement) looking for MARIJUANA crops. My mother's PATRIOT friend said she knew of one case up there, were a farmer got busted (from information form one of those low-flying military surveillance planes), for GROWING da REEFER, mon! PROPERTY can be legally "seized" for growing marijuana!

    She also said that F-16-type USA fighter jets would "go SUPERSONIC" when they near SAGINAW BAY, and cause SONIC BOOMS!! They usually are not allowed to fly over MACH 1, over land!

    If you happen to drive north (from the Metro-Detroit area) up HIGHWAY M-53 in Michigan's THUMB area, and drive just past DECKERVILLE RD., look to the east and see a big, white old farmhouse, with a small diamond-shaped window on the side, that's the world-famous TERRY NICHOLS house of THE OKLAHOMA CITY bombing fame! My brother took a digital picture of the NICHOL's house, when we drove by, when going up to visit my mother's PATRIOT friends farm house. She listens to SHORTWAVE radio and knows alot! She has a nice personality!

    In a BROWN CITY phone book, I noticed "ROBERT A. NICHOLS" address, as he was interviewed on TV news specials as TERRY NICHOLS father! THE MICHIGAN MILITIA were in NO WAY the planners of THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING! TIMMY McVEIGH was in the army before, and really was a contract CIA agent! His death was faked, he had cosmetic surgery, so he could perform his CIA OPERATIVE duties in South America (according to an ex-FBI agent on the internet), PLUS STEW WEBB's info! Just ask STEW WEBB - (Federal Whistle Blower), BRIGADIER GENERAL BENTON K. PARTIN (USAF)- retired (OKC BOMB REPORT) and DR. WILLIAM R. DEAGLE (a toxocolgist, who participated in CLASSIFIED PROJECTS -NSA Bio-weapons): ARTICLE: "OKC MICRONUKES UNDER FBI OPERATIONAL CONTROLS", LINK: www.clayandiron.com/news.jhtml?method=view&news.id=1048

    The MILITIA GROUPS were falsely-blamed in a MACHIAVELLIAN (Problem-Reaction-Solution) frame job! Let's just say that there were CORRUPT GOVERNMENT files stored in the OKLAHOMA CITY FEDERAL BUILDING, that needed to be destroyed (read: MOB TACTIC) and those nasty MILITIA/ PATRIOT groups were breathing down their necks! This INFO is highly documented on the world-wide web! Phone numbers are provided!

    Soon after THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING, TED KOPPEL and NIGHTLINE, went to a TOWNHALL MEETING in the small farm town of DECKERVILLE,MI for a big TV SPECIAL. TED KOPPEL's news team stopped off in a BAKERY in downtown ALMONT, MI for a snack! ALMONT, MI is about 6 miles north of the old town of ROMEO, MI (with many fine HISTORIC VICTORIAN HOMES, and many ORCHARDS), where KID ROCK is from and lives! KID ROCK loves to go "antiquing", and has an old CIVIL WAR cannon in front of his home! He was recently interviewed by LARRY KING!

    OH, well STORYTIME is over, and now its BEDDY-BYE time.

    PLEASANT DREAMS. DREAM A GOOD REALITY!
     
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