Acid + painkillers? lol

eek I know I know, its just I can't feel good about condoning opiates. Please just don't do them anymore after you run out of your prescription.

it might just be me, but I have even stopped using OTC pain meds like aspirin. I find that I am able to usually completely block any pain out by focusing on something else or meditating.

 

I wonder why it is that if you go into a trip with a lot of pain, it is magnified, yet if you hurt yourself during the trip, it isnt really bothersome? I've done plenty of things while tripping that should have made me yell profanities, but usually I just go, "Whoops aha" and then I'm good.

 

I believe it would just chill you out a bit more which reduces the odds of paranoia on it, but I think it would take away from some of the experience. I would just drop the LSD and drop the PKs down the toilet dude...

 

Myke even if they are 5mg's hydrocodone, generally people dont need to eat 7 to get high. I was abusing morphine in the mg rang of 180-300mg's per day for a year, and before that had been using every opiate under the sun for 7 years, and even I could take 20mg's (4 5mg pills) and feel a boost and a light warmth. Everyone is different and some people feel the effects fairly well on even 10mg's, especially a non tolerant new comer to opiates. Hell theres even been times when I've eaten 40mg's and actually gotten sick where I could have eaten 180mg's of morphine and been fine. Obviously it is because those pills are not time release.
If you've never taken hydrocodone before, I definitley recommend you do not take 7, take 2-4 if it's your first time, especially if your taking them during an LSD trip. Becuase if you end up getting nauseas from opiates and your tripping, I promise, you wont be too happy about it. On the other hand if you have been taking the pills for a few days and have a tolerance, you may be ok taking 7. Whatever you do just be careful and be safe. 10mg's will numb the pain if your new and wont bother your stomach. And if your really bothered by nausea, drink a glass of milk with the pills, it coats your stomach and eases the feeling of "O man I need to lay down" lol.
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ye even heroin addicts I know are good on 20mg doses for at least an hour or two. And trust me, a single dose of their heroin is more powerful than eating 80mg of morphine. When you start out, 10mg is enough to get stoned and with commercial weed you will get drowsy and maybe sleep. Don't expect to have a very good longterm memory of the time you are using opiates.

 

ok, i feel you...but i never said to take 7

i said you need seven to get high; i also said he should take them as recomended by the doctor for pain...

Hydro 500's or whatever, the lowest you can go...to feel "my comfort zone" of an opiate high, ide need to do 6 or 7...there is very little of anything in hydro's besides aspirine. Im sure youde feel 4, but it wouldnt be prominent by any stretch of imagination. Hence why hydros cost a dollar a piece...


trust me ive done every opiate from morphine to heroin. i know what im talking about, and hydro's just dont do much for me besides ease the pain...which is all the TS was asking...so i say go for it...i wouldnt want a toothache trippin.

 

Dude im sorry, but 20 mgs of hydrocodone is not enough to sustain a heroin addict...that's a rediculous notion. When i had my wisom teeth out i had hydro's with 10mgs each and 500mgs of aceto...i took 4 and it made me sleepy, i also had no tolerance to any drugs at that point, i had just started smoking weed.

Maybe i just have a naturally high tolerance to opiates.

 

idk what you mean, a 20mg oxy/morphine/methadone is better than nothing if you are in pain. It would surely be a relief to get even 10mgs when you are suffering.

 

i know, i thought you meant that 20 mgs of hydrocodone would satisy (sustain) a heroin addict...i was saying that's probably not true, and if it is than they arnt much of a heroin addict.

I definately agree that he should take 20mgs for pain before the trip ive already said that twice. I was simply saying dont expect the high to be pronounced at all.

 

hydrocodone = about 75% strength of oxycodone, but the effects are different/ less pronounced. Heroin users I know will beg you all day and will not leave you alone if you have even 5mg of hydrocodone, or any opiate for that matter. A couple I know will cry if you refuse to help them attain even 5mg.

 

interesting...

It's sad some people let it get to that point.

Do you have any literature, online or otherwise, that mentions that percentage? I'm just interested because when i say i need 6 or 7 to get the same high i get off snorting half of an OC 20, i'm being quite literal...like i said, could just be my personal tolerance. OC's dont hit me very hard either unless i cross the itchy/scratchy/uncomfortable dose line. I still doubt that 20 mgs will sustain someone shooting multiple bags a day...methadone isn't efficient enough for some extremely heavy users, so i seriously doubt hydrocodone would be. Not saying your wrong, i would just need to see a case of a severe heroin addict taking 10-20mgs of hydrocodone and not withdrawing first hand to believe it; im stubborn i know.

 

your logic is perfect sir. 7 hydrocodone 5mgs = 35 mg total. insufflation increases the effect almost 1.5 times/ Therefore 75% of 35mg hydrocodone = 26.25 oxycodone. If you insuflate (snort) a 20mg oxycodone it is equal to about 25 - 30 mg oxycodone ingested.

 

A true addict will snort a hydrocone with APAP and bang (inject) a perc

 

haha, well ive also never snorted hydro's to any positive effect. Too much aspirine for me nose

 

You have to watch out for the acetaminophen when taking a lot of thoses pills unless you have something like norco 10/325 or a compond with very little acetaminophen. I have found a great way to get off opiates is with Suboxone. It has been the one thing that has worked for me. Really helps coming off. I haven't found any adverse effect with mixing with acid.

 

one night at a psytrance party on the beach in the cold mist I ate so many tabs of acid.
I also decided to down a few vicodin pills.
best night of my life. I danced non stop and didn't feel the cold even with my shirt off. wow it felt so good. i rarely ever take pills....but that night I just did....opiates + lsd great combination in my book.