Failed contraception = child support?

Zero hour: Man and woman have sex and man uses condom as he doesn't want to get the woman pregnant. Condom doesn't work, some sperm gets through and the women becomes pregnant.
2 weeks later: Man breaks up with woman.
4 months later: Woman discovers she is pregnant and decides to have the baby.
9 months later: Woman has baby.
10 months later: Woman files an application for child support from man.
11 months later: You are a judge judging the application for child support. The woman claims it is his child so he should pay child support. The man claims he didn't want to have a child and they broke up before either knew about the pregnancy so he shouldn't have to pay child support.

What is your judgement?

 

u play u pay

shouldnt matter to you anyway you aint attracted to women and the only ones you are attracted to are 16-17 so with any luck you would be in jail n not have such worries

 

Uh.. Why do you immediately assume I'm asking this because I made someone pregnant?

 

i didnt assume that... i am wondering why you assumed, for we all know what it means to do so,,, in fact i thought i made it fairly clear you hadnt but perhaps i was wrong,,,

 

Ok so what if she put a hole in his condom?

 

The kid needs to be supported. Child support is between a man and his child.

What mom did in the past, or will do in the future, does not relieve a father of his obligation to support his kid. Even if mom dies, dad still needs to support his kid.

As a judge, I'd want to see a paternity test and I don't care what dad was thinking during the activity that led to conception.

 

If the woman truly wants the child, she wouldn't ask for anything from the man. All the more because they broke up anyway.

 

my personal stance is to never need to depend on the male in any circumstance and if yer out fucking round ya best be prepared for a child and all it entails, but i also know that is not how the world in general looks at it

but back to ops question,,, yes even if she pokes holes in it,,, yer still out fucking round and you know what could potentially happen,,, just the way it is in my world...

 

My judgment? I think the man needs to quit using condoms that have been sitting in a hot glove compartment or decomposing in his wallet since he was 15. :tongue: No but seriously...

One must take personal responsibility. As responsible adults, both parties should realize the potential for incident and be willing to reap what they sow.

 

If anyone has sex they need to realize that there may be a pregnancy involved. The child needs to be supported regardless of if he/she was wanted or not. So yes, he should have to pay.

 

Wait what?
"you aint attracted to women and the only ones you are attracted to are 16-17"
Where did I say that? You are a liar. I want an exact quote with a link to where I said it or an admission that you made a mistake or next time you lie I will report you.

 

oh wait that was from one of your other threads where you are talking in circles,,,,

 

The argument that sex comes with responsibility due to the chance of pregnancy and the man should share some of that responsibility is rational, but there are loopholes in this law. It would be inconsequential, for example, for a woman to put a hole in someone's condom, get pregnant by them, dump them, marry someone else and then have them pay for their children.

 

You lied. I can report you for harrasment so if this continues I will.

 

Who lied? Dilli? I've read enough posts by her to know that while she can be blunt where it's called for she doesn't lie. Calling her a liar is a personal attack. If you are trying to enlist help sculpting the truth to suit your needs the blunt is exactly what you need.

You play you pay.... just as she posted. I don't care if the girl poked holes in all your condoms. Be careful with whom you decide to have sex with because the kid isn't going to care that a condom broke or was sabotaged. A judge won't care either. Please note I'm using the royal "you" and that I'm accepting that this is not about you specifically.

 

honestly, condoms have a known failure rate and they are never EVER EVER guaranteed to be 100% foolproof. if you dont want to face teh possiblity of a child, you dont have sex with someone who can get pregnant

 

ladies, dont even front like you deserve child support/


thats a womans job

 

Of course there are loopholes in the law--there's loopholes in every law, because Big Brother can't protect you against every injustice in your life. Sometimes you just have to deal.

A woman who would poke holes in a condom, whether she liked the father or not, is a really, REALLY selfish and fucked up human being--but how exactly would you be able to prove that that's what happened?

Life is certainly not fair, but I don't see how getting so technical and petty arguing over the circumstances of contraception can ever be in the best interests of the child. If a baby is born, you must think about what's fair to the kid, not you. Suck it up and grow up. You choose the action, you choose the consequences.

 

HIS sperm hit the egg first...you play ya pay amigo

 

I agree.

The capability to poke holes in condoms might tip itself off in other character flaws... someone with that capacity would have exhibited it in other acts or statements or other ways that a moderately astute person would see before a stitch of clothing had been removed. The moral of this story is to be careful whom you stick your love wand in lest your income be shackled to them for 18 years.