Iraqi civilians death toll: 11.797 min. 13.806 max. reported

En ingles por favor. No seriosly I need a translation here.

 

Doesnt speak highly of the quality of your education if you cannot understand college level vocabulary Andrew. I shudder to think you are representative of the comprehension levels of our servicemen.

Perhaps you should invest in a dictionary if plain English is such a challenge for you.

 

Ya know I was Just nicely saying, I dont see your point. Acctually, I may have had higher education than you. Just because I dont invest all of my time phrasing everything with 4 plus sylable words, does not mean im not intellegent.

 

Not to mention also i just got off a 10 hour night shift.

 

The i suggest you get some sleep and try again later

 

Well, maybe it is just American corporations.

 

Wondering if LickHerish even read the links he posted. Of couse the Iraquis are tired of the fighting that is going on over there. They want the job to be done and over with so they can grow in their new lives. No different than hearing a kid say "I can't wait for Christmas". I pulled this from one of your listed links, the first one actualy:

Six out of ten say it is worth it. So stop telling me and the rest of the world that the Iraqis hate the Americans. I am so tired of selfish idiots like yourself thinking that we the American people are the only ones that deserve freedom. I could give a rats ass if we get oil out of the deal. I could care less if we make some kind of profit ot of freeing a freaking nation! Look past all this crap you want to throw up and see the end result. A FREE NATION. Hell, for the first time ever, they have talk radio, where they are allowed to call in and gripe and complain. Had they attempted that before, they would be shot if found out. All of their hospitals are fully staffed now and operational. Girls are allowed to go to school now. WE ARE NOT FIGHTING IRAQI PEOPLE. We are fighting Islamic Fundies. Terrorists. Why can't any of you get this through your think skulls? I am just so sick and tired of people crying and complaining about things they don't understand. You think that because you read something on a website that already supports your views it is automaticly true. WHAT IS WRONG WITH FIGHTING FOR SOMEONE ELSE? You know, if I saw my neighbor getting robbed, I would help him. I may get hurt, I may die, someone in his family may get hurt or die, but I'll be damned if I am just gonan sit back and say "it's none of my buisness". You can have the bifggest vocabulary in the world, that doesn't change the fact that you are an uneducated coward!

 

I wonder if YOU have read them, or merely rooted through them to find the small kernel (which actually speaks of sentiments re: Saddam and NOT re: the ongoing occupation which is under discussion here) to reinforce your insulated decontextualised televised view of the supposed righteousness of clear unprovoked aggression toward another sovereign state.

As pertains to the subject of this thread note:

and again:

and again:

and yet again:

And these findings from all the links posted reflect attitudes as they were prior to the charade of a "handover" (to commonly recognised "installed US puppets). The events and escalations and increasing coordination of resistance (largely downplayed and underreported by our corporately owned media) have only further highlighted the spreading opposition to Washington's true designs upon Iraq.

You clearly buy into the flag waving nonsense of our inherent goodness and magnanimity of intent rather than stopping to comprehend for a moment that they are every bit as patriotic for their land as we Americans are of ours and that the deaths our military and media mouthpieces whitewash as "collateral damage" are people like you or I with circles of friends and family who view our continued attacks and killing as acts of unjustified foreign aggression, which they are.

God forbid that we one day see foreign soldiers occupying our cities and towns, bombing and sniping at our populace daily and reporting all rightful patriotic resistance as "terrorist" activity.

 

Yeah, because you actualy have family over there calling you when they can telling you how many inocent people they shot on purpose right? Your media sorce isn't biased right? Give me a break! You are just another person that sits here and complains and yet really does nothing. I read your links. No different than hearing the French complain about the death tole on D-Day and then later thank America for what it did for them. Why is it your numbers only focus on battle torn areas that may have just suffered losses? I can probably go out and find six and ten ratios that believe aliens have visited this planet, however, that raitio doesn't reflect the nation as a whole. It only reflects one side of the few people I question. Get over yourself. Tell me, other than complaining on here, what are you going to do?

 

Ok. To get things straight. Dropping the nukes is Japan was to "flex the muscles" and quickly end a war. It was not meant to unseat anyone.

And I like how Iraqis have fully staffed hospitals and all that jazz, while we're having a shortage or nurses and teachers and all of that here at home. nice one bandit.

So tell me Bandit. Why are we still over there in Iraq if we have done our job and overthrown the government?

 

If you were a police officer and showed up at a domestic disturbance call. When you get there you see a man beating his wife. You imediatly work to stop the man. Eventualy you succed. Now, do you arrest the man? Or do you just say "Ok, I stopped the man, see yall later!". If you chose answer 1, that is whatwe are doign in Iraq. Still workign on getting rid of the terrorists. If you chose option 2, well, you are a worthless police officer. You may have stoped it for a while, but it is goign to flare up again and you will be called back there again. To do what? Repeat choice 2 over and over again?

 

Weak.
But I am glad you saw my point on the shortages here at home. But hey, it's worth it. At least Iraqians can get everything they need. That's more important.

 

Problem is, who said we can police the world? That isn't our right. This is a sorry analogy.

 

Oh, so we should sit back and watch people die? What a selfish attitude. You make your own choices what to do in life, and yet, sometimes you don't have controle over it. Remeber way back in high school? Remember the popular kid? Or the nerd? Who made the decisions to put those people in those positions? No one, it just happened. Well, I look at America as the big brother. We are here for a reason. We have power that no other country could imagine. Should we sit and watch everything go by or should we act on it? I guess we could sit back and do nothing, like we did right before we were bombed in Pearl Harbor. Yet, I don't think it is right to sit back and do nothing when you know you can help. It's like that drug commercial you see...the one with the girl standing on the dock, watching her friend drown. The America I believe in will jump in there and try to save her...the one you dream of is the one you see ....standing there...doing nothing. But it's ok right? You have your freedom, your family, your belongings. Doesn't affect you right? Yeah, you keep saying that while I jump in the water and save her.

 

Quick question bandit. Are you in the army or any sort of armed forces? If you say no, then I suggest you sit back, chill out, and realize you're not doing shit to save that girl either way.

And I'm not really clear on what you're talking about when you say power that no other country can imagine? Last time I checked, China had a nice sized military as well. You don't see them "liberating" anyone.

In all, I'm just saying that those billions of dollars could have done much more good here than there. We need that money here. You seem to think we can just throw money at any country that needs 'liberation". The record deficit shows we can't.