May I respectfully suggest that you stop clicking on it. I quite agree, except for your suggestion that it's our responsibility to avoid those types of women, because that presumes we can identify these types of women. I've discovered that even the wack jobs or the truly evil know the script for normalcy. And I include some women in the scumbag/lawyer category. Just because women have the ability to destroy father-child relationships, or manipulate a man's trust in order to steal from him, does not justify such actions, regardless of how many sleazy attorneys urge her to do so. Family court, of course, is the most obvious manifestation. I think the OP was likely also fed up with "white males need not apply" job and/or scholarship opportunities, the belittling of men in media, and our inability to observe gender-based imbalances without suffering kneejerk attacks. At my age, I really don't give a damn for myself anymore, but I do fear for my 18-year-old son, who has this naive Pollyanna worldview. Heeheehee - fortunately, his first couple girlfriends turned out to be evil, so he's wising up early.
I can't argue with that. The bottom line is that our legal system is severely flawed, and there are opportunists out there who take advantage of it. The fact that our courts grant women the upper hand in a majority of domestic disputes doesn't make it right. And you're right, if there's deceit involved, we as men should no more be held accountable for our poor decisions when it comes to women than we should when it comes to bad investments. However, it's counter productive to blame women for our fucked up legal system. That just feeds the adversarial relationship, which is the source of the problem to begin with.
Sexism against men is all around us. Women now have the best of both worlds. They are equal when they want to be, and when ever they dont want to be equal the man is expected to be the man. Its a disgusting double standard.
Is "disgusting" going a little too far maybye. Yeah they can be bitches. (Remember life is just not easy always and that people are 3 dimentional.) "If their is deciept involved, we as men should be held no more accountable for our poor decisions when it comes to women than we should be for our poor investment decisions." Ok,-hartless comparision, and besides is that unequivically true anyway? Robert Plants, who slays chicks says "Nobodys fault but mine." -good tune right. Good music-heart felt ideas.
Heartless comparison? It IS an investment, but it's more than monetary--it's spiritual if you do it right. Robert Plant's the man, and that tune's right on the money. It is a double standard, but if y'all think with your MINDs, instead of your DICKs, than you shouldn't have a problem. It's simple: Find someone who's your friend, and don't play the power game. We treat each other as equals, and we instill that in our kids. It doesn't have to be an adversarial thing. We're not going there 'cause there's no need for either of us to be in charge, but if you think that way, then you get what that pattern of thinking brings you, which sucks.
You're totally right at the end of it about it being and investment though (just had to think about it a little extra, thanks it may help me in life!)
I dont think so. I dont think its all females fault. Its our whole society and of curse not all women are like that. Many men are sexist against men too. I also dont think its all good for the women either. Sexism really bugs me when it comes to scholarships, physical violence and child custody though. Even on the legal level our society is very sexist. Yet in the end, if a women wears mans clothing. Nobody cares. If a man wears womens clothing there is something wrong with him. So its obvious women are viewed as below men by many people still. Which is a huge part in why they have more rights and privileges.
Whiskers 123: Sexism against men is all around us. Women now have the best of both worlds. They are equal when they want to be, and when ever they dont want to be equal the man is expected to be the man. Its a disgusting double standard. I may only be 13, but I've already been through a lot of shit in my life, and me and my mom never needed a man to come rescue us. Don't think we come crying to daddy or hubby whenever we need help, I don't have either.
There's a lot of snivaling bitches in this thread. There is a lot of anti-male attitudes in the american society and the female responses in this thread prove it. Thanks for making the original posters point. The problem is the paradigm of the current society. Men = bad Women = Good. This is not always the case but the subtle aspects of this paradigm are very evident if you look around and listen. It's sad what the feminist movement did to so many women. Luckily the feminist movement is losing steam and will be over soon. For the record. Most women are not like this. Most women that I know are very warm and caring people and understand their womenhood and celebrate their femininity instead of mourning what they don't have. Remember people. We are all in this together. Whether we like it or not. We need each other. Whether we like it or not.
this has not been my experience, so i cannot agree. none of the feminists i've known has ever spread hate. and i appreciate what the feminist movement has accomplished in terms of improving the lives of both females and males of all ages. i'd like to send out a thank you to the pioneers who fought to improve our society against the entrenched invested interests of the patriarchy. social equality of the sexes is not about hating anyone.
I agree-- anti-male bias is everywhere. I turn on the TV and it seems like there's nothing but women on it. The president of Microsoft and the richest man in the world is a woman. In fact, the top ten of the world's richest men are women. And why is it that women have all the good jobs, drive all the nice cars and get all the chicks? It's not fair! Everywhere I go I see copious copious amounts of female sexuality, men being treated as objects, being paid less just because they're men-- it's like I don't even know who I am anymore! And the president of the United States and most powerful man in the world is a black woman! I think we guys should definitely get together and do something before it's too late!!!
Of course you don't see it. It has no affect on you. I see it everywhere. Yes, there are people who believe in the equality you speak of. I am one of them. But it does not exist and I have never met a feminist who did not spread hate. My ex teaches women's studies at the university level and she admits openly that the feminist movement in the united states is a joke. She teaches about the inequalities in the asian and arab countries. She see's as well as I see, american women have become spoiled little bitches whining about what they do not have instead of forming a valid argument about anything. If they were about equality they would be called humanists. It's sad how much the original ideas have warped in to a gender war. And again I say, you don't see it because it has no affect on you. Where's the equality? On either side. Why are there sides? For true equality to exist, we need to stop focusing on negative. The feminist movement is all about negative, just like the original powers of the world with their ideas of the subserviant woman. We all know how wrong they were about that. Society needs to find the middle ground, or at least try and focus on it. And to the little princess who I quoted here. You are more a part of the problem then a part of the solution. Your mind is too small. You need to read more and post less in the men's issue forum. You might learn something.
I agree that some feminists go too far, but some of the people who identify themselves as feminists do so because they think it's something completely different. To tell the truth, it's not a very well-defined term. I think when it first came out it went overboard with the women's rights thing because it needed to be extreme in order to get its point across... but now some people think it means equality and some people think it means women should have all the power and some people think it means men are sexist pigs and all of them should die. I think now women have more opportunities than they used to but I still wouldn't call all things equal on that front. I don't think any sex should be subservient to the other but I do think that women nowadays have to have a little fight in them just to be taken seriously and not be taken advantage of. I respect a woman who knows what she wants and isn't afraid to get it, but I don't like being labeled as the enemy or being lumped in with a bunch of sexist pigs just because I'm a guy... nobody likes that. I agree that calling it 'feminism' would seem to imply a bias against men. I would also agree that some women feel that they should have more opportunities in the traditionally male-dominated areas of society but they are also disgusted by any man who would want to stay home and be like a housewife, and so are other men... because in the past the 'feminization' of men has always been a major taboo, and from a very early age men are socially conditioned to be more aggressive and assume a more active role in their environments. Interestingly enough, I know of a couple who raised their children with reverse gender roles-- the daughter played with GI Joes and guns and such and the boy played with dolls and things like that. Now, she's a very successful businesswoman married to a stay-at-home piano teacher and he's a simpering gay guy with no steady job. Makes you think.