Medium/high dose trips...sober people babbling??

I been tripping for about ten years and in the last three we've had a better supply of acid and I've come across this side effect.
During high doses I've noticed on three occassions, people who are not tripping on lsd(usually high on other drugs or alcohol though) keep seem to babble at me. When this first happened it was very scary and I had an intense time trying to trust some of my closest friends, but I managed to grab onto a friend until she spoke normal again and I pieced things back together ok.
I was aware that other drugs we're involved and these may have helped trick my brain into this but it was such a close call because when people we're babbling at me I felt like I was in a bubble within the old reality that would never pop,leaving me stuck in a limbo where everything worked the same but noone could communicate with me without me getting annoyed at them for talking pointless nonsense or baby language. Has anyone else had this problem I would love to here your stories.

Happy Tripping

 

that doesnt have anything to do with "side effects"

That has to do with you having the knowledge that these people, who were mumbling incoherently, weren't tripping while you were. Your subconscious mind knows this and therefore their language doesnt seem to make sense because you're tripping and they arnt...they arnt in your trip; they arnt on your level. Therefore it's hard to understand them. When i look at people who arnt in my trip, their faces morph and contort like crazy. Sometimess i trip so hard that i cant even distinguish facial features...all i see are colors. However, when i look at people who i ate the acid with, their faces look perfect normal. Maybe a bit more defined, but for the most part their features dont change much. I also have a hard time understanding people when im tripping if they arn't, cause like i said...they arn't on my level unless they are tripping. I can have conversation for hours with whoever ate the acid with me. I usually freeze up and turn into a incoherent zombie around boozed up trip intruders

 

^^^^

that says it perfectly

 

i decided a long time ago that i don’t trip with people who are not tripping with me. i might make an exception with a festival or show because at a show you don’t feel the need to speak with anyone. i don’t like to trip at parties anyways. if i go to a party which is rare i might smoke a few joints and socialize but i am not going to drop acid even if a few of my friends were. i would be happy to trip with a bunch of people as long as everyone there was tripping and i knew everyone. group trips are amazing with the right people.

i wouldn’t consider what you are talking about a side effect. side effect implies that what is happening is not favorable. when you really start to understand what LSD is you should be able appreciate why it is difficult to talk to sober people when you are tripping.

times spent on LSD are special times indeed. LSD brings you to a level of consciousness that is so high but interaction with ordinary consciousness seems to bring us down and bummer the trip. i had that happen to me only a few times before i was making sure that no party was going to happen while i am high on acid unless we are all on acid.

with LSD 'set and setting' are so important that i like to know who will be around when i am tripping. i have to feel comfortable with everyone in the room. that is another reason why i don’t like parties, you never know who might show up. naturally i don’t want to get babbled at during my trip so i avoid tripping around sober people. there is always time to trip when the sober people are not around and there is always time to visit sober people when your not tripping.

i guess what i am getting at is - yes i am sure that everyone experiences this babbling sober people thing on LSD in one way or another whether or not they have clued in to it yet. LSD takes you to a place that does not interact well with people who are not on LSD. babbling is not the only negative effect caused by people who are not on LSD with you. they distract and pull you back into regular consciousness. you took LSD to get high and now everyone in the room who is not on LSD is getting high off of your buzz while you are pulled down out of your high.(even when you are not speaking with anyone you are being vamped) tripping with people on the same psychedelic is definitely the way to go for best results.

basically tripping around people who are not on LSD with you is a bad 'set and setting' not a side effect of the LSD - although i do understand why you think of it as a side effect. there is a time and a place for LSD - sometimes times and places that you think would be good for a trip are not. that is why a good "set and setting" usually comes with experience. i am guessing that you have probably been noticing this for some time now but didn’t quite know what to make of it. it doesn’t mean that you are going crazy or that what LSD does is bad in any way – all it means is that you have to take LSD in a good ‘set and setting’ for best results.

 

Yeah I get the exact same feeling while high or while tripping. People actually negated one of my shroom trips, and I felt nothing for the first three or four hours of the trip. By the time I was alone and the mushrooms began to take over, the trip was already fading. Smoking around normal people, uptight tokers, or drunk people sucks and I feel zombified and retarded and I get very annoying thought trains.



...So I don't do that anymore unless it is inevitable, like at a music fest for example. Stick to good crowds, then you are sure to enjoy yourself, especially if you can leave if you so desire....

 

Yea, Ive had that felling in a diffrent way, an really strond dose it seems like your friends can talk backwards at certain times. Just gotta remember your in a different reality.

 

It is not just the difference between sober and people on LSD, there is also the difference between differently dosed people. For example, one of my friends, my wife and I took 2 of very potent blotters, and other 4 people took only one. Somehow, we could follow those 4 very easily, but they couldn't get us. We were too fast for them, they could get only every tenth thing, and even that we had to repeat very slowly for them. So, when you are in the group of people, rather take same doses, or there will be also understanding problem, even if they are all dosing.

 

Thanks for all your input guys, I guess what I'm on about is some kind of evolutionary action that I don't understand properly. It's to do with collective conciousness I suppose, I failed to point out that earlier in the trip I met one of those people you only meet when your tripping and we had an in depth telepathic conversation which upon realisation of said telepathy some hardcore soul link had been created. He kinda ran through some life troubles and I felt like he had tricked my brain into his understanding (due to me not being aware of how open I was and not properly grounded) which undid many years of tough meditating and left me a little bewildered. This is what led me into this disassociated world where people we're babbling, I understand the not on my level element but it seem's a little deeper than that. People who I link to or are switched on(Some have called them star people?!?) never seem to talk this nonsense or backwards as metey boy mentioned(nice one), only regular humans?
It was really odd because I could watch people come and have conversations with me and I could say to myself what they we're going to say before they spoke?? This got me real frustrated and made me walk away from conversations because they had no independent thought for themselves and it disgusted me.
I'm glad this has happened because I thought I was sweet and it reminded me to not be lazy with my psyche, but it has been an unnecessary mission at times and I really didn't need that old shit being dug up because someone else can telepath hard and give me all his evil headfucks. No worries though and all good, I still trip around sober, drunk , pilled up, k'd out zombie knobs and anyone and I still rock it
Keep on smiling and happy tripping,
thanks for your help guys
LISTEN TO MORE BREAKCORE

 

Peoples faces never distort when Im on cid. Only objects.

 

stange...it's clear that substantially more potent doses are needed.

I've watched my dad's eyebrows curl into devil hornd...ive also seen my good friends eyes turn completely black, evry bit, the whites, iris's. etc all black. Then, they went from jet black to blood red. He looked at me and said "I prorbably wont see you agai tomorrow" blinked and started crying blood. Does that constatute facial morphing?

That is only the beginning. I have had way too many jaw dropping visuals to list.

 

you have to be open to it. sometimes i have seen peoples faces change all of a sudden, other times i have had to look into their face and let go. i have to focus in a certain way sometimes to see someone’s face change.

i would recommend you try with one of your friends some time. you sit on the floor or a couch cross legged and facing each other. look into each others eyes and relax. i have seen people change into monsters, old wise men, people of different races, many different species of alien, people mixed with animals, trippy looking people with bright coloring in the hair with lots of jewelry(when the person had normal hair and no jewelry),,, i have seen lots of real interesting stuff looking into the eyes of a fellow tripper. if you like what you see in your friends face try the mirror. a warning - the mirror can be difficult - sometimes the answers to 'why did i look like...' are difficult to answer. i have noticed that everyone has different faces that they change into. the faces that people morph into are unique to the individual. every time i look at so and so's face i see the same faces. some people have many different faces while others may only have a few.

i think that you would have to be on at least 3 hits to have this work.

 

That is only the beginning. I have had way too many jaw dropping visuals to list.
__________________
Ain't that the truth, just gets weider and different after long use of the stuff.

 

dude thats fucking crazy. that happened to me when I ate 1 dose and my 2 friends ate 2 doses each, i had to follow them the ENTIRE trip lol.

 

and yea u need to do more to see faces morph, and even more to surf the vortex of eternal mystery

 

good point... i am sure that there are people who are more aware even when sober... but you will still run into the problem of vamping. for some reason people on LSD are able to get people who are not on LSD high off of their energy. unfortunately this means that the person tripping has to go with less of a high. sober people feel a contact high when around people who are tripping. it makes sense that the energy has to come from somewhere. whether or not you are aware of it you will be much higher when there are no sober people around stealing your energy. there is always an energy exchange between people in close quarters - the sober person gets the high energy and the tripping person gets the sober energy. of course this is only a subtle effect - it is not like you will actually start tripping out if you are around someone on LSD - the effect is subtle but very noticeable to anyone paying attention.

 

somebody talked and it sounded like babbbling? that's one of the basic side effects of lsd. sounds like it took 7 years to get some good acid.