My friend just called me up and said she heard about something called "Kava Kava" and wanted to try it this weekend. We're very experienced with experimenting with different drugs, but I've never tried any of the herbal options before. I've read up about and saw that I can purchase it at a health foods store. I also heard it is somewhat toxic to the liver. But I have some questions. How much should we buy/consume for two people? Whats the best way to take it? How severe is the liver damage...as in is it worse than a night of binge drinking or about the same? Thanks for any info you have on the subject.
I've tried it a few times without much effect. I took about 8 gelcaps at a time (not saying others should do so), and it made me very itchy. That's all I know.
erowid.org = omniscient deity of all things psychoactive don't worry about the liver damage. it's just one of those silly things, like the ecstasy causing holes in the brain story. look it up if you're really interested, or just let it go. you will be perfectly fine. kava is nice.
I agree, the liver thing IS true to an extent but you have to take a lot over an extended period of time to really worry about anything.
Well, I only have experience with the Gelcap extracts, which only produce mild effects. Get the fresh root, check out the experience vault on Erowid for Preperations/Recipes.
i have ingested the root powder on two separate occasions. both times i drank 25g mixed into a drink or shake and felt literally no effects. i wasted 14 bucks
hmmm... i've always used stuff from i am shaman, that was made to be drank and taste good. and it has always worked beautifully. i love kava <3.
I've heard people compare it to 20mg of Oxy (with no tolerance). I have experienced that, and if I could get that feel naturally and legally I would be stoked. I bought like 200 capsules of extract, but they were just mild and only noticable when I combined it with ganjaherb.
maybe the gel caps are extracting the wrong chemicals...Try the root before writing it off as no good. J.C
Wow 5g of root powder mixed in cold water has noticible effects. Not blow your mind "high" but if you have legitimate kava kava 5g is all you need for the herbal effects. There are so many different kinds/strengths of kava though you have to find the good stuff (pills dont work). There are different ways of making kava but I recomend getting root powder (mine says it's "micronized") from kava king or a similar company. Put the powder in plain cold water and stir off and on for 15~20 minutes. There's some info about this at erowid, you are right though SLAMDNK123 most of the stuff at erowid is kind of vague. I had to do a lot of reading to figure out the "methods" of consumption so I know what you're talking about. There are other methods like kava recipies, some where you filter the root powder out. You can also buy whole root which you suck on I guess, and you can buy concentrated kava which is measured in drops. You put those under your tonge or in a drink. If you're wanting to experiment with kava probably the easiest way is basic cold water infusion. Start with maybe 10 grams (in 2 cups, or 1) and keep going from there. It tastes bad at first but it gets easier to drink, kind of like alcohol. Watch out though unavoidable sleep sneaks up on you pretty fast -- I usually drink at a kind of matenance level after I'm sufficiently drunk/high off the stuff (stumbling, really happy etc). My friends love it -- just keep drinking until you start feeling good. When people say kava doesn't work they're just not buying the right stuff or mixing it properly (you have to use water as a solvent for around 15 minutes, 10 minimum). Remember there are different strengths of kava and according to erowid the dosage is rather "forgiving" so just keep drinking I guess.
I don't want to advertise a specific company but this is the kind of stuff you want to look for: http://www.realkava.com I wish I would have found this before ordering kava king from some herbs company. They have the roots (which is what I'm most interested in), ground root, and root extract which are the three forms of kava I've seen people talking about on forums or on erowid.
