losing your ego?

check out this link. there is a lot to read but it is worth it. it is the tibetan book of the dead - re written by timothy leary for the psychedelic session. it is call "The Psychedelic Experience"... all about ego loss and how it relates to the psychedelic experience.

http://www.lycaeum.org/books/books/psychedelic_experience/tibetan.html

 

be here now is more fun to read but word & right on with the psychedelic experience any-whey

 

Have any of you guys ever read the real Tibetan Book
of the Dead? They finally pulled off a full translation
with the Dali Lama giving the introduction. I found it
ties in better with magic mushrooms, as the feeling of
letting go tends to be stronger with them, but either
way, whatever Still good

 

i agree - be here now is more interesting. but i would recommend you read both to get a better perspective.

 

no i havent but i would like to... i guess i can find it in a book store.

 

Yea, its got an orange and black cover, very thick
book, nice pages. You cant miss it

 

Ah man, Leary and Ram Dass were so awesome.

This is sort of off topic, but has anyone ever seen the movie Ram Dass: Fierce Grace? It is absolutely incredible. In fact, I really should start a thread about it

 

a brilliant way of putting it, tho i would say "the fun is you" :dance:

 

Some people say ego loss is psychologically losing yourself, or explain that in various ways. I would say, thats the first stage of losing yourself. Full ego loss is many folds more than just losing 'yourself in the head'.

After you psychologically lose yourself. Then you will physically lose yourself. Your world will lose itself. Your reality will lose itself. You will quite literally be transported out of space and time and be sitting in a infinitely expansive black void with the only sense of you being a concentrated white ball of energy. Then an infinitely more powerful white ball of energy above, some infinite distance away, most call that God. I like the term 'divine energy' though. This would be the state of dhyana as Hindu's might say.

Then at that point you'll be like 'ok so nothing exists, I'm staring God right in the face, this has to be the end'. But no. It goes farther. You then become God. Then you also incoincidentally become the entire universe. Then your ego is gone.

Ego-loss is not just 'losing yourself and everything'. Full ego-loss is the state of losing everything, but then at the same exact time, being everything. Everything, every state of being, every state of not being, everything 'thing' of existence, every 'non-thing' of existence, is just 'one'. Hindu's call this 'true smadhi' or 'projectionless samadhi'. Although if you get to the experience on LSD, they will swear up and down that it is not 'true samadhi', since 'true samadhi' is permanent.

However, I currently cannot fathom how a state of permanent true samadhi is of more benefit. I personally believe there is incredible value to the ego and running through karmic cycles. It's how humans physically manifest the world. The state of samadhi, true, full ego-loss, seems to me, to be nothing more than a way to refine and properly aim your karmic, ego-cycles to better manifest the physical world. Wiring your brain to constantly be there as zen buddhism does, seems nothing more than the ultimate form of dropping out of the physical. Like a lotus-eater, but has trained to psychollogically generate the lotus.

I personally believe the ego exists, and will always exist in humanity, for a reason. Therefore we should utilize it as a tool. Not condemn it to hell like Buddhism does.

 

oh man... that book...

The "Instructions for Use during a Psychadellic Session", were like the most profound thing ever in my life when I read them the first time on acid.

I remember reading the book before acid to prepare, and find them interesting. But damn read those acid.... whole new world opens.

 

this does a good job of describing what i have attempted to put across regarding the experience both here, in other threads and in life itself. thank you :love:

 

Exactly. I only had one real total meltdown to the primordial morass (accidentally on liquid acid), but I say it wasn't any fun. It was... EVERYTHING, and too much of it to be fun, let me tell you. After it started wearing off, it began to be fun.

A strange thing was that a wicker table next to the sofa I was on was warped badly. The glass top wouldn't hold anything round anymore. It just wasn't level, and things kept rolling off. It flattened itself again after about a week. True story.

 

This is pretty heavy stuff, and somehow I never looked in these section before. Was I making sense when I wrote this?
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244716

 

Ego loss can be explained in a variety of ways. The only time I ever experienced gods greatest gift was on 3 hits of paper. I was sitting outside, just looking up at the trees, when they started unraveling themselves into little 3-dimensional spheres that starting making a bridge in the sky. I remember staring up at this bridge in the sky, looking further and further into it, until I realized, I couldn't see the end of it. And it was at this very moment I realized I was just staring at a tree, nothing more. After this I remained sitting and pondering and I came up with this.

" At some point in our lives we are gonna look back and realize we were all writing the same book, just with different words."-me

This quote makes so much more sense after that night I lost my ego.

"It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything."- Chuck Palahniuk