So i used to be a pretty big stoner, smoking stupid amounts on a daily bases, but as the summer ended and i started having to worry about real shit such as starting college and a new job i found myself smoking less and less, now that i have got adjusted to my new life style i have started smoking again but now im done after a coupple hits, which seems like it should be better right. Well its not now whenever i smoke i seem to have very high anxiety and being stoned has become unenjoyable for me. The anxiety seems to take over and i can no longer enjoy the mindless munching and silly aduly swim cartoon shows like i used to. I was just wondering a few thing and figured this was the place to ask 1) has anyone experienced this before and if so how did you deal with it and 2) any idea what could be causing it. Please respong honestly because i miss the old careless highs i used to enjoy.
I know how you feel. I used to smoke all day, everyday and at first I never had any anxiety/paranoia but the more I did it, the less high I got and the more I started feeling the negative effects. I think some of it had to do with who I was around (you know, vibes) but it just got to the point where it was like that all the time, regardless. I ended up having to just quit for awhile. I remember the last time I smoked I was so paranoid I hid in the van for 2 days straight, and didn't even feel high. Just really fuckin paranoid and couldn't even be around my old man hardly and I knew it was time to give it a rest. Of course a month later I found out I was pregnant - which I'm sure doesn't help you but it probably kept me from fucking my head up even worse... Maybe you should juist give it another month or two to let yourself get back to normal then try again. Ahhhh...the good ole' days...I miss them too.
I've been smoking for many years, and some of them, on a daily bases. I've tried anything, it just dont stop. I think while I'm smoking it's my subconcious letting me know I know I'm doing something wrong and I should not be doing it. I found that having a proper set up for smoking kind of stop me from being paranoid if there is NO NO NO real reasons I should worry. Weed makes you paranoid, it's the only cause. Look at it on Erowid. It's normal, it's one effect of the pot.
ive actually never felt paranoid but i think if you are feeling this way...dont let it get to you....just keep telling yourself you wont get paranoid b4 you smoke. if it doesnt work then just cut back a little. but to be honest i think that part of the reason i dont get paranoid is becuz i LOVE smoking weed and I dont really see it as a waste of time or something bad...i think if you have a positive outlook on it it will make your experience a lot better.
yeah, i used to be all giggly and happy but now, nothing about it makes me happy. it always seems like now...i think about it too hard or something, which is retarded in my opinion. either way, i've just stopped doing it. when i do harder drugs i don't get apraniod but grass just sends me into a panic attack, i hate it
Quit the weed, if it makes you feel bad then it is a load of rubbish and you shouldnt touch it. Same thing happened to me, don't continue smoking as it can get worse and create some serious mental problems. Quit while your ahead mate.
Weed effects everyone differently. If you no longer enjoy it, then you shouldnt do it. you should do what makes you happy. i have come to find that my paranoia depends entirely on the environment i am in while getting high. if i am at some strange persons house with a bunch of people i dont know, or if i go out in public while im super baked, i tend to get paranoid and highly self concious to the point where it totally ruins my high. so i dont get high in strange places.
I think there's a reason why you get paranoid. It's because (and this is only my opinion about it) pot is meant for meditation and soul-searching. This doesn't mean you can't have fun with it too. It's fun to get high and watch adult swim or funny movies (and munch). I just think while you're high you're too busy thinking (meditating) to focus on much else and that's why people (or at least me) get paranoid because they're afraid they're acting in a socially unacceptable way (and maybe they are if they're not talking or listening to the ppl around them). I find it hard to hold conversations when I'm high. I just get high by myself (or with my sis) now. There's nothing wrong with that. You can concentrate on your thoughts better and focus on the high. I think pot also affects peoples temperaments differently. Maybe people who are naturally shy or anxious kind of people are the ones who get most paranoid. I know a person who gets high all day long and is just fine. She never gets paranoid (at least not that she will admit). It's because she's a naturally outgoing person. Pot makes you more aware, so if you're already of an aware personality (anxious or shy) pot just brings that out more. Bottom line for me: pot's not a bad thing. It's just bad to use it in ways that are destructive for you. If you can't go to work when you're high or can't be around people, don't do it at those times. There's nothing wrong with having a few tokes by yourself or with people you trust. And some people are just fine doing those things when they're high. It just depends on your personality, and how you use it.
Another thought on that... at first I thought pot was causing some of my problems because it was the biggest change in my life for years but then I remembered that I have had problems getting close to people and having panic attacks since I was a kid. I just assumed it was pot because I think about it so much, even when I'm high. Pot just makes you think about your life more... I guess it's good in a way but maybe bad, too, because you see the way things really are in the world and in your life. Of course this is just from my point of view. Everybody's different.
Ive got that too man. I use to love being stoned, now it just brings a massive nervousness and paranoia and whatnot. Im not the biggest fan of dope anymore and i dont buy it like i used to, but everyones always passing it around.
I used to smoke weed about 4 times a day for a long time w/o any negative effects or paranoia. Then I started getting the paranoid and it kept getting worse and worse over a half year period. By the end I was getting so paranoid that it I started to hate smoking weed with my friends because the high was not worth it. I eventually started hanging around new people who didnt smoke weed... I do all sorts of other drugs (benzos, opiates, amphetamines) and have never have this problem with any of them. It's been 2 years now since I last smoked weed but I think I might be ready to do it again and get over the paranoia. I'm going to try it again soon and see how I do.
As a lifelong weed smoker I understand what some of you are saying. Part of the problem can be the people you are around when you smoke. Sketchy people give off sketchy energy. If you hang out with them you can easily pick up this energy. Be careful of who you hang with. Other times it is the type of weed you smoke. I can offer advice if I know the environment that you are in when you are paranoid. Different techniques work in different situations. Dealing with paranoia in a public place is different than dealing with it at home. I am a Professional Paranoid so I have developed several techniques to channel paranoia. Basically it is owning and embracing the paranoya. It is a powerful force when channeled it can change you life. But lets face it folks...weed is not for everyone. It might not be your thing. Let me know the environments that you are in and I can suggest ways to cope and use paranoya when you are high off your ass.
I like how you say you're a "professional paranoid". It's a good way to put it. I've come up with different ways to manage it too. One is: not getting TOO high when I'm around people. About three hits will make me feel good without letting me get too lost in my thoughts where I can't concentrate on conversation. Another is the environment. I wouldn't get high with anyone I didn't know pretty well. I had to quit smoking recently with my pot buddy for the last year, which bummed me out pretty bad. She intimidates me for some reason. I'm not really sure why. She's a really wonderful person. Perhaps it's because she has so much life experience, and mine can't compare. She's a lot older than me (she's 50, with kids my age). I also thought it might be because I got high with her for a year, and never really let her get to know me because I was high and paranoid all the time. I think that's affected my relationship with her now. So I'm trying, now that we don't smoke together anymore, and I guess it's better. I recently got high though, with a mutual friend of me and my sis's (which is a no-no for me, I usually don't get high with anyone but my sis), and we had a wonderful time. Just laughing, talking about a million things. We didn't even have the TV on, which I usually like for background noise when I'm high. Sometimes I think, you just get on the right wavelength with a person, and really connect. Maybe I never really connected with my pot buddy before we started getting high together (I started smoking with her right after I met her), and that makes me sad. Maybe you have to be close to someone, and really trust them before getting high together. Most of my problem is that I already have problems trusting people and getting close to them. Pot makes things MORE, and so I think it just heightens the anxiety I already have. I have had a few rare moments getting high with people (including my pot buddy) where I felt comfortable and really felt connected, and everything was beautiful. Maybe because getting high is better in groups of people that you know and love? Instead of just one on one? I don't know. It's different for everybody. Sometimes taking a break for a few weeks or months helps to clear your mind and get ready for the next session. Maybe, though, since weed makes you feel more connected to people, that is why you get nervous, because of the intimacy factor. Sometimes you can't always connect, and sometimes it is beautiful and wonderful and fun. Every time you get high it's a learning experience. So for the most part, except in certain situations or exceptions, I only get high alone or with my sister, because I trust her completely. There are not too many people in this world I come even close to trusting that much, except for maybe myself.
Can you tell us how to channel the paranoia like you were saying? Just pick a random situation and go from there. I know the paranoia also comes from the power you get while stoned, and it probably makes people nervous who have not learned how to use it. I know how to use it inwardly, to really think about things and meditate, but I'm completely useless when I get high with other people.
Could you describe the group situation? How many people are there? Where are you smoking? Is it your place or someone else's place? Living with parents? What paranoid thoughts come up? I am positive I can come up with a solution. But I need some more details about the environment. About a month ago a online friend was having some issues about being paranoid in shopping malls. I have him some insight and now he is fine. Give the details of the place and what you are paranoid about. I will help you. Professional Paranoids never take money (germs and tracking chip) or Paypal (no longer takes court order for big brother to look at it, plus it creates an online trail). All services are free!
you can help paranoid people? if your serious please tell me beacuse I've gone nuts sort of lol (seriously)
My specially is helping stoned Paranoid people. If you are not a stoner post a thread in the Paranoid area. I will see what I can do. But again I specialize is Stoned Paranoia. Please be patient I frequently have to change proxies and erase my web tracks. But I will get to you as soon as I can.
One on one is worse for me actually, than getting high in a group of people (that I know really well) because in a group people are throwing their thoughts around, which makes it easier to feel comfortable and add to the conversation. My paranoia stems from the anxiety issues I already have: being nervous about talking to people, like what I'm saying doesn't have any importance. I'm like: "ignore me, forget i'm here and let me watch the situation, and i'll be happy". (Whether I'm high or not) Some of the symptoms are terrible (when I'm high): forget what I was talking about mid-sentence, forget what THEY were talking about, or can't follow at all. I can manage if I only take a few hits. For the longest time I didn't even realize what was wrong (doh, too high all the time!), so I'm still learning. Basically when I get paranoid, this is what happens: I hear the quiet, so I feel really quiet. I might have things to say, but I'm afraid to break the quiet. Sometimes it's like what the hell are we going to talk about? Turn the TV on already so I don't feel so damn awkward. It's kind of difficult to explain, because I have different thought processes when I'm high alone or with my sis, and high with other people (or person). I think it's because I have different thought processes normally in those two situations because of my anxiety issues. Basically when I'm alone or with people I trust, my thoughts flow more easily. When I'm with other people, particularly those I don't know or trust well, it's like I can't think or can only think about my anxiety (high or not). Hmm, I don't think I've really given you anything you can work with.
Well it is a start. You mentioned getting stoned with one person. So we can start with that. Forgetting what you are saying mid sentence is very common. I have found that saying "I just forgot what I was saying, god I am high, What was I saying?" This usually breaks the tension and results in Laughter. Especially when they admit that they do not remember what you said. Admitting that you forgot what they said is often equally hilarious. As for breaking the silence that depends if you are at your place or their place. If it is your place ask if they want to watch tv or play video games. Again the situation and where you are are important details. Also realize that their is a strong possibility that they feel the same way as you. Also it is a good bet that they are so into their world that they are not even aware of yours. For those awkward situations in my place I already have DVDs and simple no brainier games like "Apples to Apples" ready. Suggesting an activity (a simple one) often provides the necessary distraction. Ask them a question. What music do they like? Movies? People love to talk about themselves give them the opportunity. I will do some thinking on this for you. But more details always helps.
What you said: "Forgetting what you are saying mid sentence is very common. I have found that saying "I just forgot what I was saying, god I am high, What was I saying?"" I have thought about that. I think perhaps one of the reasons my pot buddy intimidates me is that she never has moments like that. It's like when I'm high with her, she isn't. I mean, she is, but she doesn't act like it. She's been smoking pot for over 30 years, and has done other drugs, but only does pot now. She probably knows how to get high much better than me. She talks alot when she's high (but she talks alot anyways). It's hard to pay attention, lol. I don't know if she expects me to be as perfect when I'm high, but maybe that is what I think. What you said: "This usually breaks the tension and results in Laughter. Especially when they admit that they do not remember what you said." I don't know if my pot buddy would do that. She might laugh, though. I have found it works in other situations. "Admitting that you forgot what they said is often equally hilarious." What you said: "As for breaking the silence that depends if you are at your place or their place." I am generally more comfortable at my place. But when I get high with people other than my sis I'm usually elsewhere. What you said: "If it is your place ask if they want to watch tv or play video games." Always do. Always feel more comfortable at my place, definitely. What you said: "Again the situation and where you are are important details." When my former pot buddy and I would get high it was usually in her room. It felt very confining and she usually just wanted to watch TV or talk. She's older so I understand that she doesn't like to play video games. And I do like talking to her, but sometimes I can't concentrate on what she's saying and sometimes do not have anything to say back. I would go online or go downstairs and hang out with her kids. But I got paranoid around them too, it felt like they were judging me. Could be because I'd been getting high around them so long and acted like an ass. (By acting like an ass I mean not really talking to them or giving short, non-descript answers to what they would ask me.) It's not that anyone was mean to me. It actually seemed like they were being too nice, which made me feel like a retard. And the funny thing is, I think they thought I was weird not because I was stoned, but because I was just socially retarded. That hurts my feeling, because I'm a very intelligent person and can be pretty outgoing when I'm not high, if I try really hard. What you said: "Also realize that their is a strong possibility that they feel the same way as you. Also it is a good bet that they are so into their world that they are not even aware of yours." I don't know. My former pot buddy is a pretty good stoner. Even if she is in her own world she is real good at hiding it. What you said: "For those awkward situations in my place I already have DVDs and simple no brainier games like "Apples to Apples" ready." What's apples to apples? I wish my former pot buddy could get high at my place but she really can't. I think she prefers to get high at her place, because I live with my parents. What you said: "Suggesting an activity (a simple one) often provides the necessary distraction." I could do that. What you said: "Ask them a question. What music do they like? Movies?" I kind of already know this. From what you said, I guess getting high with other people would be more comfortable for me if I could get them to come over here. But that only happens sometimes. Around people I know and trust, I am generally a pretty outgoing person with strong opinions. I don't know why I'm different around other people. Thanks for the help! I wonder if you have any more advice, based on what else I've told you.
