pescatarianism is ok

I tend to think that dairy products and redmeat should be avoided and even if you are a vegetarian and eat dairy you arnt much better off than someone who eats alot of redmeats.

I believe pescatarian is the best way to go. I dont think anyone can say all meat is bad. Eskimoes it has been said eat few vegetables and lack fiber yet they prob have less heart disease than vegetarians and vegans.

Truth is the vegetarian diet is one of the least healthy ones especially if you dont get omega 3 fatty acids.

Most plant foods lack them except purslane and walnuts pretty much.

I doubt most vegetarians eat a handful of walnuts or use purslane for salads.

For one: Purslane isnt available at most stores.

Walnuts also arnt a common nut alot of people consume or know about. Most think almonds are the best. Almonds are ok but I dont think they are the best one around.

While its true that not all nuts are equal just like redwine and hard liquor arnt the same. Beer is said to be in the middle. Beer isnt as good as wine but it has nutrients and is better than say vodka.

Pistachios I must say are as good a nut as walnuts and almonds. Ive heard pistachios are one of the best because they contain alot of phytosterol which helps remove cholesterol.

Peanuts on the other hand are more like the hard liquor, they are ok but not the best to choose.

As far as dairy goes jack lalanne who is 90 something says he doesnt do dairy.

He said maybe if someone wants some lowfat or nonfat yogurt it might be ok once in awhile but as long as you arnt eating cheese, icecream or butter.

Those are the bad ones.

I know someone will come on here and say they arnt bad, but I think id believe someone who is 90 something and avoids those kinds of things than someone who is 20-70 years of age and advocates them.

Jack lalanne says he doesnt eat eggs but eats egg whites and the only meat he eats is fish.

He proves that being a vegan or vegetarian isnt the way to go.

 

This, imo, is true. But some vegetarians have their own reasoning for only excluding meat and this is a persnal choice

This is not the truth. I think youll find that omega-3 fatty acids are in the VAST MAJORITY of plant foods, along with omega-6's. A balance must be kept between the 6's and 3's to stay healthy. Most plant sources either have slightly less 3 or slightly more, which is why a vegan will eat equal fruits, nuts and green veggies to account for this. In mentioning high omega foods you also forgot one that everyone knows-the linseed/flaxseed, which i DO use daily on my salads, in crackers, in breads

Im failing to see what this has to do with anything

There are also millions of healthy, bright-eyed and happy individuals who are vegetarian or vegan. There are also many extremely OLD vegans. I think the oldest person in the world used to be vegan or something? Anyway, there ARE far lss diseases in veggies, it just has to be done right. A veggie on junk food isnt going to be healty and this is obvious. But the right vegetarian diet may save you from so many diseases

As for fish, its dead. Its farmed. Its fed antibiotics. Either that or its come from a mercury and oil-loaded ocean. Id really rather stick to my living foods and avoid all that

Also this entire post has ben from the perspective of health. Even if you were right, which i can assure you, this time, youre not, many people here have far more than just that reason to be concerned about. Many people, obviously, also have other reasons for not wanting to eat a dead fish. We have overfished this poor planet, anyway

 

go post this in the omnivore forum

 

You know what? I cured my cancer from my organic vegetarian diet, so I am not healthy? I don't judge others for how they eat, so how about you stop judging us?I agree with verseau 100%. I'd rather eat my living veggies/fruits, then dead carcus.

 

I agree pescatarianism is ok, any way of eating less meat and killing less animals is ok. It's a step in the right direction for people like myself who cant go the whole hog

 

I don't personally like to eat anything dead. Not to say I don't fuck up sometimes. But I am against eating fish.

 

Where do these people live that don't know what a walnut is, Mars?

 

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Sorry:tongue:

 

^ You are a silly, silly man. Let's get married and then divorced the same day.

I think it's better to eat fish than dairy from a health and animal rights perspective, dairy is shit and no one should eat it. Except me when I'm having coffee at Timothy's because their soy milk tastes like crap. I don't think vegans should be told to start eating fish though. Their diet is perfectly lovely and none of them are dropping dead from deFISHencies...see what I did there?

 

Yes, fish is good for you, but walnuts and flax seed contain omega 3 and those things are easy to get. So obviously its still healthy... I really don't understand how people think its unhealthy to be a vegetarian, there are a ton of healthy ways to do it, its all about balance (for any healthy diet).

And I personally think if I eat organic dairy and eggs then thats fine... I think if everyone that wanted to eat meat ate organic meat then that would be fine too. I personally just don't like to eat dead animals, which is one reason why I don't eat fish and other animals.

Soooo yeah you should like look up stuff before you tell us all how unhealthy you think we are... its just uneducated people who say that.

 

don't forget about hempseed. the omega are bustin out all over when you eat em. man, our family just went through 5 pounds of the buggers. it's actually cheaper to buy 5 pounds for $30 than 8 oz. for $12. and it's cute when your 3 y.o. asks for hempseed!

Also we are killing our oceans, farming fish is not ecological & it's disgusting, and the indigenous are having a hell of a time trying to maintain their heritage. I can dig what you are saying about an all meat diet from a say, Greenlanders point of view, but you aren't a Greenlander nor an Inuit.

You most likely don't know this but, I saw this documentary about how the heavy metals are attracted by magnetism of the polar circle and it lands on the lichen and the caribou eat the lichen and thusly cancer and leukemia rates have almost wiped out that indigenous population that depends on the caribou for sustenance. It's really sad.

Sorry to get off point, but then Life a Web and we are all related, and eating meat is not environmental for people and other living creatures..

Look at this site:
http://marinedebris.noaa.gov/welcome.html

 

it all depends on individual belifs but eating fish to me is like eating a cow. most of use here are veggies becasue we dont want to harm the animal...not for the health(not saying its not a benifit we enjoy)

 

good day


here is a thought for you...........what about insectivorism....?? most of the world's native people have always eaten certain insects.... they are a natural food. they have protein and fat and fiber.... they taste good.....they are free and can easily be cought......... the best and most often eaten are the grasshopper, cricket, butterfly, ant, grub, and larva. avoid all spiders, caterpillers, flies, and parisites.
good hunting.
eat healthy
would anyone like some good insect recipies?
calyja

 

First off, one man reaching 90 doesn't prove much. I know a few people in their mid-to-upper 80s who chain smoke, that must be the secret to their health, right? Plus, though I could be wrong, veganism wasn't that big in 1937 (considering its not that big now)

Secondly, you should of only aimed this at vegetarians, veganism isn't a diet.

Third, you are really going to use Eskimos to show your point? You do realize that though they might not die of heart problems, they will most likely die younger than the average person? Health is a major problem.

 

I ate several types of insects as a kid. It was actually pretty fun... and being a tomboy, the gross-factor didn't hurt any.

I don't know HOW I feel about it now... but I think I might be okay with it! Then again, I'm an "immoral vegetarian" heeheehee!
love,
mom

 

Bullshit.

 

Yes.

 

I often wonder if we were meant to gobble the odd insect along the way...the amount i wash off my organic fruits and veggies is crazy. It wouldnt be planned and would be in all innocence, as they just happen to be on the fruit or whatever, you know. And most are dead anyway. I take it insects would give B12 as a kind of suppliment I duno, im no expert. And ive never brought myself round to not washing them off, dont think i ever would

 

^^^ I read somewhere that our evolutionary ancestors are likely to have lived on a predominantly vegetarian diet alongside insects and grubs. The eating of large quantities of meat every day is a relatively new phenomenon in human history, so vegetarianism is more "natural" if you want to look at it that way. Not that being natural has much to do with anything, since 'natural' doesn't necessarily equal 'good'.... I'm rambling.