communism

Discussion in 'Communism' started by trotsky, Jun 19, 2004.

  1. Tamee

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    Yes, work that I would much rather do than bust my ass for someone else.
     
  2. Tamee

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    No one way of life is superior to another. We are all the same, we just chose to live our lives differently.

    The hunter/gatherer lifestyle is very idyllic to me. I am very in-touch with reality.

    As for "turning the world into one giant commune", no one will ever be able to do that. Humans don't have that kind of power. Life will be what it is. I will live the way I want to, and I will bless you and your choice of life. Peace and Love.
     
  3. JohnnyATL

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    Tamee you have been contradicting yourself over and over. "works not necessary," but then growing food is work that you would do? Communism was based on a "theory" that everything would be shared. That includeds food, money,everything, but think about this what would happen if you worked all year on a nice little crop of corn for your family and then your neighbor decided that he didnt grow enough so he takes it. would you let that happen and let your family starve? i wouldnt. Basicly communism doenst work because of peoples greed. MONEY! OIL! POWER! if you belive otherwise move to cuba and give all your possesions to a bum and see how far you get
     
  4. Tamee

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    when I said work I meant the kind where you have to bust your ass for someone else. I don't view growing food as work at all. Yes, it's something that you would have to do, but I would just call it life, because it's something that every living thing has to do. And I don't see myself being miserable trying to grow my own food.
    I don't know much about communism, I'm just posting my opinions.

    I actually plan on giving all my possessions away at one point.
     
  5. JohnnyATL

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    If you dont know much about communism why are you sittin here arguing? i mean your sitting here constantly commin up with things to make sense and you have no idea?
     
  6. Tamee

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    I'm just speaking my mind.
     
  7. JanaXGIRL

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    whatever you said about communism is right... it's the biggest shit!!! really! my country was in communism for so long years...!!! i nkow what I'm talkin' about.. :mad:
     
  8. Gabriel

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    Yes, but we are theoretically an enlightened society now. There is no reason why we couldn't take the benefits of our advanced technology and apply ourselves in a more ecologically balanced and egalitarian way of life. Oh yes there is... basic greed.

    Modern civilization is just as barbaric. Just because you wear a suit instead of animal hide, doesn't make you civilized. As long as the rule is "survival of the fittest", the world will always be barbaric. Sadly, it's now a choice instead of a necessity.

    What are you really fighting for? A bigger house than your neighbor's? A bigger home theatre system? A more expensive car? Exotic vacations to brag about? This is the real motivation against communism. The saddest thing is the people wanting these things are completely controlled by their free society they are so proud of. The people with REAL money and power are manipulating you to make themselves richer and more powerful. You are out of touch with reality if you don't see that.
     
  9. Beatle Kat

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    YOu guys,think that best example of communism is the Soviet Union?I'm really surprised!And even in Cuba and China what they have isn't communism!True communism!If you've read any of Marx's works,you'll understand what communism is about!And you'll like it!Because communism haven't arrived yet in any place of the world.In my country most of the hippies are communists,because they've read,they've studied the writings of Marx,Engels,Trotsky etc!Please read the communistic manifesto;at least!You can't put the blame on communism for what has happened in the USSR!
     
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  11. Beatle Kat

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    I'm from greece...:p


    和平
     
  12. Kandahar

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    Umm, yes actually you can. Don't you think that maybe there's a REASON that every nation that has tried communism has invariably turned corrupt and oppressive? Just because the THEORY of communism doesn't call for corrupt totalitarian governments doesn't mean that the theory isn't responsible for them. Sure, it's nice to have a theory that's rosy and utopian, but if it doesn't address the obvious problems it will face, it's a stupid theory.
     
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    Communism can not be established from above. No good system can. For anarchy/comunism (i see them pretty much related) people must build the system from the bottom - by themselves. It is impossible to make an order, when somebody is shouting to millions - you'll do this, he'll do that. It's you who has to decide! Communism could only slowly spread by people making small comunes, then growing them up a bit and then joing them and so on and on until we have a system that feeds itself and where people within share things (love is about sharing, you know :) ). You cannot force anybody to be a communist so most probably we would have like one third or half of the world is a huge commune and the other is capitalist or whatever (let's say ussr-communism = terror (not communism)). It's all about love and the people. It is possible. And that is the only positive way people could exist. Capitalism is based on egoism and hate in action (which means everything-to-myself, get-as-much-as-you-can, property-is-happiness and so on). And if you share in capitalism (like soup kitchens, food not bombs, giving to the poor, helping your friends, sharing a car with friends) - that IS COMMUNISM IN ACTION! You see? It's THAT simple! All you need is love ( :) ) and some open mind for sharing. Friendship is communism. Communism is friendship!
    LOVE
     
  14. Kandahar

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    That is NOT communism in action. In capitalism you have a CHOICE to give or not give to the less fortunate. In communism you are FORCED to give to others. Capitalism is not based on hate; that is ridiculous. I'm a staunch capitalist, and I'm very charitable. If you actually believe in communism, why the hell do you own a computer? Why don't you sell it and give the money away to those poorer than you? And do the same for all your other posessions, while you're at it, until everyone is completely equal.

    Of course, no one will have any incentive whatsoever to work if they aren't rewarded for their work. Why should I build you a house, or grow food for you, or research a cure for the disease you have, if I'll be rewarded (or not rewarded) regardless?

    Sorry if I'm a little caustic. Whenever I hear stupid arguments like "capitalism is based on greed" from dumbasses wearing athletic shoes, attending college, eating fast food, and owning automobiles or bikes, I can't help but laugh at the hypocrisy.
     
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    Whenever I hear stupid arguments like "capitalism is based on greed" from dumbasses wearing athletic shoes, attending college, eating fast food, and owning automobiles or bikes, I can't help but laugh at the hypocrisyNeither can I.It's terrible indeed.
     
  16. Tamee

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    Makes sense to me. I'm inspired...
     
  17. Tamee

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    Who needs work?
    I'll build my own house.
    I'll grow my own food
    I'll do my own research
    Wouldn't helping others be rewarding enough?
    Do you know any of this is actually true about the person who wrote that post? You seem quick to assume.
     
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    Thank you for your positivity, because people just love to put you down in the dirt, when you write something they wouldn't have said themselves before.
    For peace, love and sharing, building your inner communism, piece by piece, peace by peace.
     
  19. Tamee

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    Inner communism is what it's all about, I think.
     
  20. Diomedes

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    A 4 page thread about communism and no one mentions how many people it killed.....that's different.....some people actually think that it's still a plausible idea......that's just not good.
     

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