Golden Compass

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  1. gingercaily

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    Golden Compass,a great combination of fantasy, adventure and excitement which based on Philip Pullman's novel..it's all about a girl who entered the epic quest to save her friend from Gobblers and save the world against witches and other evil creatures..
     
  2. TriCo

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    I think this will be out on December 5, 2007..Can't wait to see this new Fantasy film of Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig...
     
  3. hippie_chick666

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    Anyone hear about the controversy surrounding this film? My fiance's mom heard that it was supposed to be atheistic or something, but from what I have seen, it doesn't seem like an anti-religion movie. What have you guys heard? For those who have seen it, what's your opinions on the controversy? Just a bunch of right wing nuts condemning a fantasy film or is there actually merit to their claims?

    Peace and love
     
  4. dollydagger

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    I have heard the same thing!!! But I haven't heard the reason why its considered atheistic...it really pisses me off when people make a big stink about a MOVIE. Its fiction. Its entertainment. Seriously doubt it will turn someone to blasphemy and atheism.....
     
  5. AndalucianDog

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    Yeah, there are widespread efforts to boycott the movie. The author of the novel is an atheist and the books supposedly have some atheist overtones. However, the movie is supposed to be very very watered down on the religious matters. Not even the actors who were making it noticed anything like that. When asked on the BBC whether his stories are about undermining religion, bashing God, etc, the author replied along the lines of, "I leave that to the reader to decide, to make their own interpretation." It's pretty sad that so many people call for a widespread boycott of a movie simply because it does not express the same opinions that they themselves hold.
     
  6. dilligaf

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    we saw it the other day,, i saw nothing that would consider it atheistic ,,, fanatics ar ejust that,,, can find a case out of nothing... good special effects in it,,, story liine was a bit blah but not a bad movie overall ... i got thru it whichi is more than i can say about alot of movies lately..
     
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    The author of the books (which I highly recommend by the way!!) has said himself that he believes that the creation of our universe can be explained without the presence of a God, but that he wouldn't be surprised if there is one.


    I wouldn't say he's an atheist, just a human being with the same questions we all have in our hearts, but the guts to say them out loud.

    And, as has been said, they're fantasy stories! People take things too literally these days.

    They are amazing books, and I can't wait to see the movies!

    *hugs*
    ~*BA*~
     
  8. dollydagger

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    so he would be more agnostic than atheist.......but yeah, who cares!
     
  9. hippie_chick666

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    That's what I thought; religious zealots need something to protest or what else would they do? Perhaps get a healthy hobby...

    Peace and love
     
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    Tryed reading the Northan Lights, couldnt really get into it so I just gave up.


    Shame- I have got all three books of the series sitting on my shelf

    As for the movie, I might see it, but its not at the top of my list on things to do
     
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    The evil organization in the movie who is bent on keeping the truth from being known is called the "Magisterium", which is a term in the catholic church meaning the teaching authority of the church.

    I haven't read the books yet, but I saw the movie. I thought it was good.
     
  12. Zajko

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    I just saw the movie; a great story beautifully executed.

    I believe the religious controversy stems from this:

    Toward the end of the movie Mme. Coulter (one of the more unsympathetically portrayed characters) explains to Lyla that due to a bad decision on the part of an ancient common ancestor who disobeyed authority, "dust" from another universe was allowed into the world which now settles onto every human being before they reach adulthood and prevents the world from being the perfectly ordered place it could be. It is now the role of the "Majesterium" to eliminate this "dust" once and for all by forcing an entire generation of children to be cut off from their animal natures through a process akin to castration.

    This is a clear echo of the Christian doctrine of the Fall of Adam and Original Sin, and the seperating of ourselves from our 'sinful' animal nature that is so much a part of Christian tradition.

    However Christianity has not always viewed the Fall of Adam and the resulting dichitomy of the human condition as a bad thing that is to be reversed at all costs; a medeival hymn states: "Blessed be the day the Apple eaten was, else we would not sing: Deo Gratias". Only from free-willed struggling creatures can the song of Deo Gratias (Thanks be to God) be truly meaningful. Our free will, this movie suggests, is something to be cherished and defended, not handed back to the appropriate authority at the first opportunity.

    What is controversial is not that this movie defends Atheism, but that it leads us toward a more honest dialogue with our Judeo-Christian roots and traditions - a dialogue that may well be at odds with the elegantly ordered heirarchical subservience being touted by many fundamentalist churches today.
     
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    in the last book/movie the atheism will be thrown in your face. i loved these books when i read them a few years ago and loved the movie, I cant wait till the subtle knife comes out!
     
  14. Zachimus

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    To really appreciate the movie, I need to read the books. There was so much crammed in there that it was difficult to follow and little was explained. Oh well. I didn't like the little girl either.
     
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    I couldnt agree more! I really liked the books but i thought the movie was not as good as the book. They even cut the final where the boy was suposed to die. they didnt focus on "dust" as much as the book and it is supposed to be the main topic ! They spent a lot of time on battles but really transendental isuues were not considered. I hope the next will be better...
     
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    Did anybody else catch the anti circumcision statements in the movie

    the whole intercision thing was all about circumcision, and is confirmed by the next book

    pretty obvious though when they just kept using the line "it's just a little snip"
     
  17. thinkfloyd07

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    this movie sucked
     
  18. shivo

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    It was an awful movie,I didnt liked it anyway.
     
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    It was watered down from the book, but I think in some ways the difference between liking and not were whether or not people got the symbolism and references like the "intercision" = circumcision
     

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