Wisconsin to ban salvia - Wisconsin residents, its TIME FOR ACTION

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by Alan Rockefeller, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. Alan Rockefeller

    Alan Rockefeller Member

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    State Lawmakers Propose Bill Banning Salvia Plant
    December 5, 2007 - channel3000.com

    State lawmakers are debating a bill that would add Wisconsin to a handful of states regulating a hallucinogenic Mexican herb.

    State Reps. Sheldon Wasserman and David Cullen authored the bill that would prohibit the sale of Salvia divinorum. The Assembly Criminal Justice Committee held a public hearing on the measure Wednesday.

    Salvia divinorum can cause hallucinations within seconds after it's smoked, licked or chewed. The long-term effects are unknown, but Wasserman said he feels the herb is dangerous.

    "They should not be operating a vehicle at all because they're having visual changes, auditory changes. It's a serious drug, and during that point of intoxication, I wouldn't want to be on the road with them," Wasserman said.

    The bill would crack down on those who produce and sell Salvia by imposing a fine not to exceed $10,000 for manufacturing, distributing or delivering the active ingredient in the plant, WISC-TV reported.

    "We need to do something about the ready access teenagers have to it over the Internet and in stores across the state. We cannot allow young people to be deceived into thinking the drug is risk free because it is legal," Wasserman said.

    Federal drug laws don't address the herb, although the Drug Enforcement Administration is researching whether it belongs on its controlled substance list.

    At least eight other states have passed statutes regulating the herb.



    --- End news story


    When Rep. Joe Baca (D-CA) proposed the California law to ban salvia a couple years back, I heard about it and immediately called his office to tell them to cut it out. The secretary asked for my phone number and said that someone would call me back, which is not at all what I expected. An hour later I got a call from a legislative assistant who was _very_ well informed about drugs, but was on the other side. Turns out that this is the guy who wrote the law. I spoke with him for about two hours and it was a really good conversation. We discussed many aspects of the proposed law, how much harm it would cause, how much good it would do, etc. I reminded him how no one had head of MDMA in 1984, and shortly after it was outlawed its use exploded. I don't know if I had any direct effect, but it felt really good to be able to speak with the man directly and make an attempt to reason with him.

    He told me that he intended to introduce it the next year, but he never did.

    Gathering information about how Salvia can help addicts is one positive thing that can be done. If it can be shown to have helpful effects and little potential for abuse, it would have a hard time getting passed.


    I just spoke with wisconsin senator sheldon wasserman's office a minute ago. They said that the bill has not yet made it out of committee, they are considering it this week.

    Wisconsin residents, now is the time for action!

    Call sheldon wasserman's office and also david cullen's office and ask them not to make the salvia bill into law.

    Since these two yahoos wrote the bill, they are the best people to call. The next best people are the other members of the committee which is currently considering this legislation. I don't know what committee it is or who sits on the committee, I'll let a wisconsin resident take over from here.



    Another thing that can be done is to alert the marijuana legalization community - many of them have an affinity for plants in general and could be convinced to call the senators.


    The full text of the proposed Wisconsin anti-salvia bill (AB477) is here:

    http://www.legis.state.wi.us/2007/data/AB477hst.html

    And a small amendment that changes the bill so it references Salvinorin A:

    http://www.legis.state.wi.us/2007/data/AB477-AA1.pdf

    And most importantly, here is a link to the page that gives the current status of the bill:

    http://www.legis.state.wi.us/2007/data/AB477hst.html

    Currently, the most recent status is that they had a public hearing on 12/5. The bill is still being considered by the committee on criminal justice.

    The time to kill this bill is NOW, before it reaches the full house floor. Currently the only people that need to be convinced to kill the bill are the members of the committee on criminal justice. If it leaves the committee, we will have to work on the entire legislature.


    Here is a thread at entheogen.com about this bill:
    http://www.entheogen.com/forum/showthread.php?p=145445
     
  2. Colimon

    Colimon Cheesus Christo

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    Well, it's only a matter of time... The USA expects a schedulization in January 2008. It is true about the point on driving and unknown effects, but if many natives and many others have been using it for years without negative effects, then what is the problem with it? I do think the law will pass like it did in so many other states, but I don't approve of that until they actually do more research on who actually drives on it, what the negative effects are and what is the overall deal with it... A crying shame such a wonderful herb is being shitted on!
     
  3. Witchdr11

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    First of all any date of schedulization is rumor only.

    Second of all, if you are driving or even thinking about driving on salvia you need to be shot. Anyway, you can't legislate personal responsibility, this is proven time and time again. you can just as easily drink 5 bottles of jack and try to drive and cause just as much damage.No one is making alcohol illegal.

    You are still liable for your negligence if you drive on salvia causing some injury or property damage or violating a traffic law while intoxicated. Making salvia illegal isn't going to stop the one fucking jerkoff out there who just can't wait to try it while driving. He's destined for stupidity regardless.

    This bill as it reads only addresses Salvinorin-A. As I read it leaf and extract are not addressed and it also allows provision as use as a homeopathic drug, without prescription. It also is non-criminal and has no jail time associated. If any laws are passed regulating salvia, this one isn't (all) that bad. If it were up to me you could smoke whatever the $%$%$ you wanted, but no one listens to me.

    I sent these offices the usual set of docs I send out to reporters and politicians when I see issues concerning salvia. Have a good one.
     
  4. J.C

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    "They should not be operating a vehicle at all because they're having visual changes, auditory changes. It's a serious drug, and during that point of intoxication, I wouldn't want to be on the road with them," Wasserman said.


    Dumbass, no one has or will smoke that shit driving. This guy must not know how to do research about anything to make a statment like that. To add zest to it, the trip is so short that it would be hard to want to drive or go anywere before it's over, being completely normal after an hour of use.

    J.C
     
  5. Colimon

    Colimon Cheesus Christo

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    Well, since they know nothing about it or what to say, it's their way of attacking the drug. They are making it look like everyone is driving while under the influence of Salvia Divinorum and that it is a hazard to the community. If he wasn't such a dumbass he'd know that people can't even figure out how to operate a car while on Salvia...
     
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    a friend of mine on salvia "what is this contraption?" as he looks at a car parked by the side of the road. No one would be capable of driving under even moderate dose of salvia and this argument really has no weight. People need to educate their senators better.
     
  7. Kalizhada

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    Stand up for your rights Wisconsin!!! I am Kalizhada, I stood up to scheduling in Texas in March of 2007, I opposed in person in Austin, Texas against Rep. Charles "DOC" Anderson, who didn't have a clue on what salvia divinorum was. His proposed bill was defeated, the only thing Texas Leagislation did was to impose that no one under 18 can purchase it, which my company Kalizhada Inc never does anyway. But I was the only one, I was the only single person who went to the capitol to oppse this. There are many posers who act liek they stand up for something and don't back it up. Find real, educated, people who can help you voice an opinion and salvia will remain legal in chesse-head country. Email me at kalizhada@yahoo.com for any help or ides you might need. Hell I'll even fly up there and help your cause. But be real about it, don't pose, stand up for your rights.
    Ki
     
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