Does Non-standardized Salvia give you closed-eye visuals?

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by topchoicewd, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. topchoicewd

    topchoicewd Member

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    Does it get you messed up? I don't have much money and the cheapest stuff I see is here: http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/

    10X Non-Standardized. I heard non-standardized is a waste. I want to be on Level-3 atleast. Will it get me there?
     
  2. Friggin Joe

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    Sure it can, but "will it?" is another question. Same applies to standardized.
    It might take a couple sessions before it works out for you (breakthrough).
    Crude ~5x worked for me.

    There are factors other than the exact amount you take in.
    I've gotten nothing out of standardized 10x my first couple tries yet I had a kickass experience from a crude ~5x more recently.
     
  3. peacegrow

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    Standardized really doesn't mean standardized across vendors. It really all depends on the vendor. You might want to read more....messed up isn't a great way to describe it. But...yes, 10x can cause closed-eye visuals...and open-eye visuals. I've never used anything from bouncing bear though.
     
  4. topchoicewd

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    So I most likely won't get on level 3 after my first and second try of a half gram of 10x non-standardized? What about 6X Standardized from iamshaman.com?
    What is crude?
     
  5. topchoicewd

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    Also, what's that stuff mean that I see on most sites that says "not for human consumption." It says it on Iamshaman.com. Is it not safe to smoke?
     
  6. Witchdr11

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    Standardized 10x will likely effect you exactly the same as non-standardized. Standardized means that ONLY salvinorin is reapplied to the leaf instead of all of the crude extract. Standardized is a more refined and likely less harsh smoke.

    In my OWN opinion I think a non-stand may have more effect as your are smoking all of the extracted chems of the leaf. Not much research has been done on the activity of the other Salvinorin analogues psychoactivity. In cannabis, delta 9 is regulated by other cannabinoids. I'd bet the bank theres some more good stuff in the essential oils of S. Divinorum too.

    But, if you want to just smoke less yucky stuff like clorophyll, smoke standardized. I smoke cigarettes anyway, I cant even tell the difference between standardized and non "in the lung".

    Your results may vary, please use responsibly, do not try this at home!
     
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