Spiritual Guidance

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by moopher1, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. moopher1

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    Can someone help me? I am really interested in finding out ways i can contact my spiritual guide.
     
  2. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Sure I can try and help you! Whats on your mind mooph? Other than finding your Guide
     
  3. 3xi

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    i smoked some dmt out in the middle of a lake in a boat and i actually saw and got to speak with my guide. she said that i was always to remember that she is always with me watching over me.

    everyone has a spirit guide and all it takes is realizing that you have one and reaching out to them by asking them something and waiting for a response or some sort of sign.

    the dmt made it easier for me to make contact with my guide. usually we have to settle for subtle signs of their presence in our lives.
     
  4. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Who manifested to you as your Guide 3xi? Who was this woman?
     
  5. 3xi

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    not sure who she is except being my guide. i felt very close to her like i have known her for a long time, she made me feel very safe. she looked like a beautiful woman and i asked her why she looked so good. she said it was because she knew what i liked as she changed into i a very wise looking old man. when i spoke with her we were in this bright red and white very trippy patterned bubble or something. i can remember it now but i can not imagine exactly what it looked like because i guess it is impossible to imagine without being there. that trip was a pinnacle moment in my life. knowing that she is always with me helps in many ways.
     
  6. RELAYER

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    I know what you mean. I guess I see many guides in my own life, but I believe that certain people are blessed with a divine magnetism that helps other, regular people, like all of us, feel connected to God. Not that we have to have a middle man, as we did once discuss before, but that we feel accepted for who we are, and we are assured that we are not alone. Having a middle man, for people in general, is a necessary occurence because without direction (in this case, being directed towards directing ourselves, hence the necessity lol) we as a whole are lost. For me, personally, I dont have a middle man in the sense that I am controlled, by a church or by a guru, though in a grand sense I, as all, ARE controlled. Im speaking on immediate consciousness. But I do look up to someone who in a roundabout way is my middle man, the man who teaches, the man who was there for me after I found God in the Absolute Form, helping me put it all together and make sense of it all, as I was basically grasping at conceiveable bits and peices of God, grand as they may be. The man is Paramahansa Yogananda, and is to date the only soul to have visited me during meditation, taking a manifested form and in that sense he did guide me. He appeared to me twice, the first time during sober evening prayer, and again during my last LSD trip. The psychedelic experience was much more vague and less 'real' than the sober experience, but I have no doubt that a contact was made. Only it was a less solid contact as I was tripping on 8 hits and was profoundly overwhelmed as it was. Neither appearance hes made to me involved any form of vocal communication, but a Love was felt, as well as a sense of assurace, like him telling me that it is all very real and it is all very happening. I dont know why he chose me to be a part of his movement, the small part that I do actually play. But there is no denying that I was chosen by him, the emotions and sense of purpose are real enough to rid my consciounce of any self denial and/or doubt.
    Another guide to me is Mohammed by means of the Holy Quar'an, but for one to understand my reasoning for this, one would themselves have to experience the depths of the Good Book. A lot of misconeption arises regarding al Islam and for obvious reasons.
    While all of the souls who once inhabited human bodies and used their powers of divine magnetism to gather masses of people in love and esctast under God's wonder have a special place in my heart, it is, of course, God Himself who receives my devotion, love, and energy. But in a way that I can feel on a daily basis and bring about to the forefront of my perception, the Divine Mother is responsible for. She is the One who not only shows me the delusion of Her dulaistic charecteristics, but touches my soul in a personal way that none else ever have. God in the Absolute is too much for a person in a human body to come to terms with, and even holding on is testing when Nature comes at you hard. But the Divine Mother soothes with Her Om sound of being alive, the reverberations of which can be felt throughout the entire cosmos. She is there to teach us and birth us and destroy us, but She also is only an emanation of Spirit, a breath of God's love blown out onto the nothingness of our plane. Even a great master once said that he had to give up his love for the Divine Mother in order to attain moksha, because the Divine Mother, though a god in Her own right, is not THE God, and is just one more step amongst the many on the ladder of Self-realization. It is only God alone who is the Source of all aid and love, everything else is only a part of the whole.
     
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    This reminds me of a song by van morrison called 'no guru, no method, no teacher' one of my favorites. I always thought of my best friend (RIP) as my main spirit guide, but I know I have a worldly guardian who only appears in times of immense distress.
     
  8. moopher1

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    Sometimes i just get that feeling you know, that there is someone around me...my body goes cold and tingly full of goosebumps...can you tell me, is this a sign that my spiritual guide is with me? I also heard 11:11 is the best time to talk to your guide, is this true?
     
  9. moopher1

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    could anyone maybe help me?
     
  10. elfin1mf

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    "usually we have to settle for subtle signs of their presence in our lives." - this is good advice; so true. I don't think most people pay attention to the signs if they get them though, they just don't want to believe anything significant is possible. Once you accept these signs you will be aided at every moment by them.

    YES what you are feeling is common. It is your spirit guide if you wanna call it that. This is what you are sensing. Every thought you have is shared by your spirit guide, if you believe that he/she is what is watching. Sometimes I believe that it is a great timeless technology which watches over us, though I have seen entities and spirits so I am not sure about that. It just seems weird to me that there is a spiritual entity which has nothing better to do than monitor and help us at our every whim, but this seems to be the case.
     
  11. sw0o0sh

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    Didn't we already post this thread somewhere further down the page..?
     
  12. MovedOn

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    a part of me sort of greatly fears the day I see a ghostly person in front of me giving me life advice

    I really need to get to work on meditation, cause whenever I trip, even sometimes when sober I have this feeling like theres something right behind the veil of physical reality, right there, just waiting for me and it makes me kind of worried and anxious

    Which moopher, I don't know where you are exactly on your path. But for my personal experience and life. I know about a year or two ago. I kind of had thoughts of, I'd like to meet my guide just out of curiosity of it, I had no sense or feeling of it, I was just curious. I'd do astral projection meditations, try to call for my guide etc.

    Then on acid, it finally sort of came to me very clear in feeling, I didn't see, but I felt. The feeling of the "other" guiding you. But it still feels like a veil is between us and I know thats because I fear that ultimate contact still deep down. Like back when I was just doing my astral meditations thinking "id like to" I was so far from it I just didn't really know how real and humbling such a thing is, I sort of though of it as being fun just a simple exciting experience. But now that I can genuinely feel it's quite close, it's very humbling, very worrying at times even. It's life altering. I know I have to be willing to just completely give up all self to make it happen, apart of me still wants to hold on.

    Of course though, maybe I never will... maybe it's just awareness that wil come to me in greater amounts.
    Although I have had some very vivid dreams where I've just talked to certain people I've always believe to be very enlightened.
    I do keep hoping I will run into a real life person who can give me some guidance.

    My sort of e-guide, person I always go to and read about when needing to make sense of stuff is Terence Mckenna. When it comes to spiritual or psychadellic matters. He's the first person to truly make sense to me and make me realize "hey im not crazy, Im just abnormally correct". And he's the person who continually, upon reading his stuff and listening to his lectures, always comforts me in my experiences and feelings. He seemed to of tread the exact same path I'm wanting to look down.

    Timothy Leary is also great in this regard. But Leary, as brilliant as he is, as much as his writings have made sense of ALOT for me. He just doesn't seem to have as much love behind him as McKenna. Leary always seemed a bit cynical to society. Which is understandable, they certainly treated him like shit. I find when I read too much Leary I just wanna go out and argue with people about spirituality and pscyhadellics and convince people to do LSD.

    But anyways, I say that just cause, I think it's great if you can find a philosopher, or psychadellic guru, or even spiritual guru of any kind who's writings you greatly synergize with. It's very comforting to know you can always go read there stuff. Oh and I also, If I'm making lists of this manner. Christopher Hyatt is the guy who finally got me to understand what exactly magick is, I'm very greatful for that.
     
  13. elfin1mf

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    Rygoody are you sure that you have not met anyone in your life who seems to guide you? I think many people in life fail to find the significance in the small things, not that you seem to be one of these people. Sometimes (very often actually) the answer or person you are looking for has been right in front of you all the time.
     
  14. MovedOn

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    Oh I know what you mean exactly.
    I've even run into some people in some very random occurances that just seemed to come out of nowhere, at exactly the right time and provided exactly what I needed. I remember thinking of them as angels here to help. But they were physical people.

    Still, I wonder, will I run into some spirit that helps?

    And will I find a teacher or guru of some sort that I could always go to and ask questions?
     
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    "will I run into some spirit that helps?" - you are with them always, if you mean to ask if you will see them, then I have to honestly admit that when I saw a spiritual entity it didn't really change anything. I am not sure if it was my spirit guide but it did reveal itself to me.

    "will I find a teacher or guru of some sort that I could always go to and ask questions?" - I am confident that at some point you will if you focus your mind on it. The power of thought is beyond most peoples awareness.
     
  16. elfin1mf

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    Also, the people of this forum could be your gurus/ teachers.
     
  17. Shapeshifter

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    I want to try to prove to you something. If next lines don't help your wondering in circles and asking for something that you already have, than I am wrong, but if it does, it will just be accepted as truth (at least for me, we all have our different truths witch are part of big truth).

    You said that all the people that you met are physical people, but what made them say those things at the right moment that ment to you sooo much on your path of enlightment. You remember the post when you told 3xi to feel what he wants to write, and if he looses the feeling, that he is probably typing something wrong? You are already aware of the "feeling"!! Don't be fulled by the fact that you don't see your spiritual guide!! Sometimes seeing can make you even more delusions because it is one of the 5 common sences, and spirits and energy uses other "ways" of comunicating. OK, now think backwards through your life, every time, when something very important was happening to you, you had a certain "feelings", am I right. Other thing is did you listen to your feelings or your "common logic" to make a decision what to do, but the feeling was there, am I right?

    ONE VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR YOU AND EVERY OTHER FELLOW JOURNEMEN!!!!!!

    YOU MUST KNOW AND BELIVE THAT WHENEVER YOU NEED THE GUIDANCE, IT WILL BE THERE!!!! This part plenty of people just can't belive or picture. You see, wouldn't it be very selfish from everyone of us to ask for the God, or creator, or your spiritual guide (call it whatever) to be all the time with us? Even for choosing witch bubble gum you want to buy, red or blue? Even for a bus to come earlier just because you are bored? Or plenty of our common every day life stupid things? When you really need it, it will be there, but don't call it for every single stupid thing that comes to your mind. You just need to belive in your "feeling" 100% and don't warry. Maybe sometime, you will think that something is so important to you, but in the big picture, it is not! When you were meeting other people who helped you enlighten yourself, maybe you were not even aware how that is important in a "pig picture" and it was there for you, steering those people to say right thing at a right time. Just try NOT to put yourself and your needs infront the "big picture". When you start your thought with: "I need..." or "I want.." belive me, it is wrong start to your meditation, or whatever spiritual way you practice.

    Now, when you read this, is it a little bit more clear to you that you do have a guide, but you were not aware of it?
    If not, than I am wrong.... but I am working now and have plenty of work to do, but I read your post and had a strong "feeling" that pushed me to write all of this for you, postponing my work, but I guess that the same force wanted me to give you a sign. I didn't read again what I wrote, I just had a feeling and typed, but again, if all of this is too confusing to you, maybe I am wrong...

    But I belive what I typed and I couldn't ignore the "feeling" witch made me person like I am today, always smiling to whatever comes my way!
     
  18. MovedOn

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    no, it makes sense

    I guess I do kind of want more of a slap in the face then I really do need
    should prolly work on changing that
     
  19. Shapeshifter

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    So, it makes sence, thats good, let me say few more things than.

    Since you are aware of the "feeling", I can tell this to you. All our 5 common sences are leading you to the feeling, in a sence that when you are triping (or meditating sober), when you have visuals, if you follow them, they will lead you to the feeling, music will also lead you to the feeling and all other sences. Once you know the feeling, you can extract whatever you want from it (sentence, visual, smell, touch, taste) or you can comunicate just by feeling without extracting anything from it. It is not essential to follow all 5 sences to the feeling, when you know the feeling you just use it as it contains all in it, when I say all, I meen ALL. So, for people who just can't find the feeling itself, or having problem beliving in it, they need to be "slapped in the face" with visual materialization, or sound, or touched, or any of those 5 common ways so they can find that so amazing and to follow it so they can find the feeling. I don't know if you saw in one of my posts that I told that you need to go beyond visuals, and only than you expirienced acid fully. Thats what I thought. If you see how many people start breading heavily on acid and have a feeling witch is similar to hunger, like something is pressing your stomak, but just few centimeters above it. Thats the "feeling", thats the connection to everything. And if you follow that feeling, you don't need visuals or anything else, you are just in tune.
    Another thing about spiritual guidance, we as people would like to know everything immidiately, and thats impossible. For example, you need an answer on something at Saturday, but today is Monday and you start benging your head looking for that answer. Don't do it! You will know the answer on time, just when you need it. There is no possibilities that you can have a perfect answer that long ahead, simply because the whole universe needs to line up on certain way and you can not know how it will line up by than. That is also calling for it when you actually don't need it, and than disapointment because it is not with you all the time. But if you just relax and belive in that feeling 100% (it must be 100, not 99.999%), the perfect answer will come to you just a second before you need it. It really works!
    I am NOT saying that you don't need to have plans or goals, all I am saying is that you don't need to bang your head by working it in the details before its time, because you just don't have all the information you need to make a final decision. By understanding that, you are not ruining the second of your life witch you are currently in because of thinking of a second that is too far. That leaves you so much time to notice so many other things witch are in "front of your nose" and they are there to make that second count. Once you loose the second of your life, it is gone, nobody can return that second to you. The point of this life is to make as much seconds count as we can. That is why so many gurus are saying that there is no past, present and future, they all exist simultaniously.... in this second.
    Once you know and belive in "feeling", that's all the spiritual guidance that you need! You see, that feeling will make you tell something to somebody, like I have an urge to write this to you, and you will extract the sentence from that feeling and even you will be surprised that its "you" who wrote all of that, and before it, it never came up to your mind. That is the best process of enlightment. Why? Because you didn't start your thought with "I want..." , you had on mind that you want to help that guy, didn't even think about yourself, and as a reword you were alowed to exctract that knowlidge from the feeling, so easy, without even thinking about it. But when you try to search for some knowlidge, by trying to exctract something from the feeling by force, because YOU NEED it, just like that, you ended up with even more questions then you had before and with no answers. The answers start comming when you let go the questions.

    Does this make any sence?
     
  20. rainbowedskylover

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    with all the respect, isn't there another part of the forums dedicated to stuff like this?
    unless you try to find your guide with LSD of course..
     
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