natural bullshit

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by Can I Live???, Dec 3, 2007.

  1. Can I Live???

    Can I Live??? Member

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    This may be for the whinners forum, a pre sorry if most people think so.

    I keep hearing people say "its all natural so its good for you" kinda stuff.

    Boooooo. I am a man of facts if something is nutritionally better for you than thats a legit point. But saying something is natural there for it is somehow better than mademade or what have you is bullshit.

    Popular arguments: natural foods are better, this is baloney some may be better but not simply because they are natural.

    weed is an ok drug because it is from nature, man made drugs are bad.

    another bullshit tale

    When will it end?
     
  2. Magical Fire Lady

    Magical Fire Lady Senior Member

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    Well if you would look at nutrition facts you would find that natural stuff is better for you because it doesn't have chemicals and preservatives and all other kinda of stuff... it is technically better for your body. Of course it can still be high in fat and sugar but it is better than other crap... soooo get your facts straight.
     
  3. lace_and_feet

    lace_and_feet Super Member

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    I think you have a valid point. Just because something is natural does not mean it is necessarily good for you. This was one of the problems with ephedra before it got banned. It was widely popular and touted as completely safe because it was "All natural", yet it turned out to be dangerous (in some cases fatal) for many.

    This isn't to say that something man-made is inherently safer though, but that's a different argument.
     
  4. violetblue

    violetblue Member

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    Agreed, Fire Lady! Natural is better than processed. Chemicals are bad, I think we all know this.

    To the original poster... Interesting argument, but you didn't provide any facts to back it up. Why do you feel that this is bullshit? Do you have some facts to show that natural foods are not healthy, or that weed is as bad or worse then manufactured drugs?

    If you're gonna make a statement like that, maybe you should back it up with some facts. You ARE a facts man, right?
     
  5. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    where is your argument? you have put forth no basis for this and then you go into drugs? what?
     
  6. kklilveggies

    kklilveggies Member

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    Natural doesn't necessarily mean better.

    Organic on the other hand....
     
  7. Magical Fire Lady

    Magical Fire Lady Senior Member

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    Natural means better for you, because there's no chemicals and stuff. So I think it does necessarily mean better. Organic is even better!

    And yeah weed is definitely better for you than other drugs, guess you could make the point that cocaine comes from the ground too but its also really processed when its cocaine ya know. I mean you could argue for other drugs maybe...
    Yeah this is kinda a pointless argument.
     
  8. Can I Live???

    Can I Live??? Member

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    Yes I am a man of facts. My argument is NOT that natural foods and drugs are unhealthy. The argument is simply that the drugs or foods being natural has nothing to to with them being healthy or not. Manmade shit can be healthier or less healthy than natural shit.

    It is completely irrelevant. But people always say "ohh its natural so its good for you." Many products are advertised that way too.

    And were you and another poster suggesting chemicals dont exist in nature???

    Maybe it is not me who needs to work on facts.
     
  9. violetblue

    violetblue Member

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    Again, you have nothing to support your argument. You've only restated your thesis. You feel that being natural has nothing to do with being healthy. But where are you supporting statements?

    In addition, I think when manufacturers put on boxes that their product is natural, I don't think they are necessarily claiming that it is healthy. Rather, I think it's an advertisement for those of us who would like to avoid man-made chemicals and over-processed foods. However most educated people understand that natural isn't always what it's cracked up to be.

    Also, no one was saying that chemicals don't exist in nature. I think you are arguing semantics. We all know what we meant.

    I think you need to just chill out. Maybe go take a nap or something so you're not so cranky. Come back when you're ready to have a more well thought out argument rather than just a blanket statement.
     
  10. Lady of the Freaks

    Lady of the Freaks Senior Member

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    you may be a 'man of facts', but you apparently are not a man of evidence. what evidence can you provide that this statement is true?
     
  11. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Just because you label yourself "a man of facts" doesn't necessarily mean that we can take your words as the unadulterated truth any more than seeing the word "natural" on the label of a food or drug product mean we can assume that it's automatically a healthier alternative. You've brought forth an excellent topic of debate and nothing more. You have proven absolutely nothing,
     
  12. violetblue

    violetblue Member

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    And, you sure use the word "shit" a lot. If you need help with intelligent speech, you can try www.freerice.com. It's a free site that will expand your vocabulary!
     
  13. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Shit is 100% natural.
     
  14. Lady of the Freaks

    Lady of the Freaks Senior Member

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    doesn't that depend on what you're eating? :D
     
  15. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Shhhhh!!! I'm a man of fax.
     
  16. Can I Live???

    Can I Live??? Member

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    A light personal attack at my intelligence, I can take that.

    But you are suggesting that the use of the word "shit" somehow deems someone less intelligent?

    I think that tells more about your lack of intelligence than mine.
     
  17. violetblue

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    No, I swear all the time. Just not when I'm trying to argue a valid case and take part in an intelligent conversation. And I didn't say you were not intelligent, I said your speech was unintelligent.

    Btw, I'm still waiting for those supporting arguments to your thesis. Do you just not have any?

    My friend, what I'd like to suggest that you do is just lighten up. You're gonna give yourself an ulcer, and THEN what will you do?
     
  18. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    I've yet to see proponents of either side pony up some background or studies.

    Yes, "hippies" tend to go with "bother your food less."
     
  19. squawkers7

    squawkers7 radical rebel

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    I was thinking "Natural Food" meant anything normally/naturally grown in a garden or fruit orchid. If you can walk out to your garden and pluck carrots, celery,peppers, tomatoes from the ground...that's healthy & NATURAL. You can even stick those veggies into a juicer to make your own V-8 juice, but if you walked into a convience store to buy V-8 off their shelf...who knows how long it's been sitting there and/or what chemicals are added into it....so Store bought V-8 would not be natural.
     
  20. kklilveggies

    kklilveggies Member

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    I concur.

    I'm also very disappointed that some people have resorted to insulting other people's intelligence just because they don't agree with them.
     

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