i didnt know which forum topic to put this in so if any mods see this plz move it to the appropriate topic if u can. what im going to discuss is the term "gateway drugs". my view is this, drugs even cigarettes can indeed turn into a gatway drug for somebody, but it depends on the said persons peers they surround themself with, and usually it doesnt happen in a short period of time but over time, and social situations should be considered as well. one example being, such and such hangs out with such and such, who has been around the drug scene for longer period of time and knows more about different drugs. through conversation they introduce that drug to the other person, in social context. that drug is then implanted in that person's mind. such is the concept of being cursed, with one who says "you shall fail at everything", the person on the recieving end shall remember that and dwell and possibly diminish because of those words. however, such a possibility is unlikely, as it depends on the person's inner strength to deny such allogations and become stronger. which is the idea behind learning from experiences, as well as mistakes. which brings to the other point: social context. here: as for cigareetes are gatwways, for example, if someone starts off smoking cigarettes and makes a friend through that, becuz for example as a fellow cigarette smoker, i find interest in my peers cigarette brand and type preferences. you could say, they gatewayed me to certain types of cigarettes like black and mild, which i discovered through friends. mini cigars, rolling your own cigarettes, etc. well, lets say that friend you know who smokes cigarettes, has a friend who smokes weed. and that guy's brother who btw is super cool in the sense that he's chill with his brother, snorts coke as well as smoked weed. hoping you're connecting with this person on a level higher than the fact you both smoke cigarettes, lets say one day you decide to hang out with him. him and his buddies are gettin smoked out that night! and thus introduces you to weed. you'd have to be pretty susseptable to peer pressure and be atleast mildly impressionable, but assuming you either give in that night or stay close friends with that person, odds are in the playing field that the longer you hang out with him, the more likely you are to end up smoking weed. so you're smoking weed that day you lost your pot virginity, and chilling with your friend and his brother, who's snorting coke that night as well as smoking. thus introduces you to coke. not necessarily its existance and effects, but the fact that it's there and by now, you've probably become pretty tight with his bro, so he'd probably be willing to offer you some. you get me? so yeah, hypothetically cigarettes could lead you to coke, as ridiculous as it may seem. but it depends on a person's inner strength to deny any drugs you do not wish to consume. it's about having respect for youself. if its a drug you know little about, stay away from it and at the very least do some nonbiased research. i think these ideas have been implemented to a decent degree in that, most people simply do not suddenly go downhill because of cigarettes, or weed for that matter, because we have developed higher strength and probably, the ideas of peer pressure were iminant when people did fall victim to this kind of gateway drug lure. its not as common these days though... i think we can all agree, because of how ridiculous that post sounds. but i think things like DARE are directed towards those wishing to fit in, we all know how terrible elementary can be right? then the next year they're in jr high, and look how suddenly those cigarettes scenes appear. i think mostly, people who end up on worse drugs is because of that deep urge to fit in, that or, the concept of self gratification in which they have lost all desire to fit in and thus seek to serve themselves. which is something i wrote when i read someone's post about heroin, if anyone would care to read it i can post it up. sorry this was so long though, i just had to explain it at every detail.. hope SOMEONE read it Lol anyways, these are just some observations. and i think it clears the air about the idea of gateway drugs
if you're smart you'll know not to do any hard drugs like heroine, coke, or meth. just remember, Keep it clean, keep it green. But mushrooms are also ok because they're natural, just like weed
Something I just noticed when you refered to hard drugs; you usually see people shouting: HARD DRUGS ARE BAD FOR YOU. While drinking a beer... alcohol is one of the most poisonous stuff there is, plus it's a hard drug... yet you never hear people about that... Just something I wanted to blurt out regarding to the post above mine... For the rest, some synthetic shit is nice aswell, I dont see why acid for example is wrong to use... nothing natural about acid For the rest I didnt really read the story entirely as it, no offence, bored me to shit halfway through.
yeah exactly, my point in the thread was to stress that yes, weed can possibly however very unlikely, be a gateway drug. its not a scenario that will be in plain black and white "oh i smoked weed today then decided to shoot up on some heroine". thats nearly never going to happen. its just, there are social situations and stressors, and im tired of hearing people say that no, weed is never a gateway drug! never! when really its, ok lets look at this realistically. my post was, really, theoretical. i mostly made it because i want to point out to people yes it can happen, it could end up as a gateway drug. but its highly unlikely, as most people simply do not let themself fall down that dead empty road.. anyway, thank you for reading my post and giving me your input!
If you smoke alot of hash when u are about to sleep and you get a bit sleepy and think about something, it feels alot like a gateway though, hehe. I understood your point. No comments for now though, running out of time. Wedding of a family member tomorrow, loads to arrange. -_-
I don't think you can assume 'natural' drugs as being less harmful. Wheres the evidence of that? 'Natural' things have had thousands of years to evolve into complex things. Poisonous mushrooms for instance are concentrated (due to natural selection) masses of poisonous material that are still around today because animals have kept away from them (knowing that it may harm them). So just because something is 'natural' doesn't mean it can't be highly developed with a good chance of harming a human. All that aside. One could argue that man made drugs are natural.. because we are nature.. taking its course. We (natural beings) use natural substances to make specialized (and natural) substances. If anything.. man made drugs are less likely to be harmful because they were made with one purpose and with controlled substances... wheres as natural drugs could include things that are irelivant to the reason the drug is being taken.
liroy, btw i would not expect anything less than for it to bore the shit out of you, i wrote this during one of my deep contemplation periods, in which i try to make every point possible and keep it unbiased.. so as to gain a better opinion and also in hopes to broaden other people's minds. i write, its what i do, i find all kinds of joy in it and so yeah to an extent i really can over do it, i think i do most of the time on here lol my bad.. anyway, there seem to be mostly smart people on these forums but u have to admit, there are some pretty stupid people out there who my thoughts would be better put towards... peace
eh, i just dont like anything "man made", in other words, artificial. i dont like the idea of science interrupting the course of nature. humans, i dont believe, are as intelligent and divine as the universe. i myself, have fine experience with smoking weed whereas i would never dream of going near "man made" drugs. ofcourse, that coudl just be bias based on ignorance, for i have never touched harder drugs. nor do i desire to do so. all i know is this, weed works for me. i have yet to go insane, i have yet to lose my will to live. im not addicted. im a writer, and it would be near impossible for me to stress how smoking helps me write, for it is on both planes that i connect with otherwise divided ideas and help myself to connect the dots.. which is why i write becuase i hope to help others. my point is, i dont know what other drugs are like. except alcohol. but besides that, i dont know how they would effect me. and i dont want to. and i dont want kids to just pick up drugs out of confusion.. because what i think a lot of people fail to realize is how fucked up this world can be, and how cruel teens can be to eachother, with said desires to fit in. all im saying, its a possilibity. n i forget everything u said, and also i want to make that point to anyone else who happens to read. THANKyou for reading though, i do appreciate your input.
I figure everybody is stupid... just we are too stupid to realise it If you enjoy writing, by all means, keep doing it. I'll read your entire post one day, but I simply dont really want to right now, way too much pressure today =D
haha, i like your little saying "everybody is stupid.. just we are too stupid to realise it" it rings a lot of truth and thank u, i truly appreciate that. no pressure though, cuz sometimes i really do not want to read them long ass snooze fest posts.
