Fake Salvia or am I doing it wrong?

I have bought salvia from 2 different websites, the 10x I bought had no smell and no effects on me. I bought 20x from IamShaman, this stuff has a smell and is greener, but I did about a pinch in a "pepsi-can" bowl and all I got was a 3-5 minute buzz, I just felt happy and I wanted to run around, other than that nothing happened. I light it just like weed and fill my lungs with the smoke, then I hold it for as long as I can, and nothing happens stilll. Is it the salvia, the method of smoking, or the smoking device. I am going to use a homemade water bong tomorow night to see if it works, other than that I am out of ideas.


What sites have some of you bought legit Salvia from?

 

You burned it just like weed? You mean you only held the light on to make it burn and then took of the light?

You should keep constant light on it while inhaling to reach the effects. Pepsi can would work fine if you hold the light on.

You may remove the lighter when you see you have smoked it all and only ashes remain. Then you should start tripping in like 15-20 seconds

Edit: If you didn't hold the light on before, then you should probably try only a SMALL hit first with the constant light method.

 

Use a small pinch in the bowl.
Light it with a torch lighter and inhale as much as possible.
If using a bong, the smoke should feel quite smooth.
It's VERY important you use a torch lighter and make sure the stuff is burning very hot, you can't just light up and puff, inhale.
Inhale it into your lungs while the stuff's glowing hot.
Heat is of the essence, the salvorin in the leaf doesn't release too well by burning like you would burn tobacco or pot.
Hold in lungs for more than 10 seconds, 30 is preferable.

Practice with plain leaves from ebay, it's the cheapest bet and will help with building the reverse tolerance.
Yes, reverse tolerance, as in the effects are achieved easier with use (how ideal IS this stuff anyway, heh)
Plus plain leaf can give you an experience, just try and get in 3-4 hits within a couple minutes, holding 20-30 seconds each time before exhaling.
Just as with extracts, it's important to keep the leaves burning under the torch lighter as you inhale. Makes a big difference.

Earlier today, my third time using an extract (I've used plain leaf), and while just 10x, the tiniest pinch of it pulled me into the oddest and most interesting dream-like state.

 

Ok 20x from iamshaman possibly bunk only cuz my hbwr's were bunk and it took a month to get my goodies. i got there 6x salvia which is good enough. here is the key i sware to god this is how it works. first it is essential youhave music and no interuptions. i sware to god once again go to goa & psy at di.fm.com. put on some headphones and smoke your salvia. pack about a half bowl,light. it will cherry very easily. everytime you go to pull a hit you need to apply flame with your lighter. just enough as if to relight, to much will burn your throat. If you don't have one of the most psychedelic experience's of your life then im freakin hallucinating. It last 3-5 min but you can easily keep redosing. the muic is the actual key element. no other music will do the same thing i guaruntee.

 

I must highly disagree with putting music in your head during it.
Actually that's a fine idea, but you have to keep in mind that it can set the stage for what you experence. Audiovisual stimuli might help your mind go somwhere, but as it can affect and actually dictate where your mind goes with the saliva trip it might not be a good first trip.

Music can end up being an annoyance or even drive you nuts. On both plain leaf and extract I've had it feel like the music I'd heard was literally pulling me in different directions with it.

Whatever gets you started, I guess. If you have a bad breakthrough, try again under different conditions. A relatively uneventful, dim setting, a sitter, and a sense of calm and relaxation will lead into the the experience that is deeper than psychedelic.
Ok, psychedelic is fun as hell, too.

 

I use bic lighters, they are cheap and work well, torch lighters are great for newbs but are pricey. The trick i use it to inhale meduim untill i see red then i give it all i got, the color of the leaf and screen should be orange in the end. Torch lighters after heavy use melt your screen.

I think music can give you something to hold on to, but to explore your self, near darkness and quite is best imo.

J.C

 

I agree, bic lighters will do the trick. Always did it for me and my friends. You just have to make sure you keep the flame lit the whole time you're hitting it.

LOL something to hold on to! Not trying to make fun, but this makes me laugh a bit and generally captures the feeling I've been getting that not many on this board seem to be all that experienced with Sally D. Not that I'm a guru either. But it makes me laugh because of the many trips that I've experienced or been witness to, there is no use trying to hold on. You'll forget who you are, what you're doing, etc, IE ego death. That's really only if you get a strong effect though, which is very easy to get with the extract - which is why I find it odd that I'm hearing the conversations I'm hearing here when you all seem to be using extract. I can definitely see how music could be great with a lower strength trip though. Actually, one of my friends who had a strong trip had some music going in the background and it definitely played into his trip, but he sure didn't know it was just music coming from a cd player near him.

It's been about a year since I last used it, and the funnest times were definitely when I just used the dried leaf. Hell, those are the only times I can actually fully remember! I think a few months ago I threw away a few grams of 10 and 15x as I was clearing out my goodies. Like many people, I soon lost interest. And hint: this is not because people simply get "bored" with it. I think I'll probably give it another go sometime, maybe the coming summer.

When you're judging the potency or legitimacy of your extract, higher extracts will generally be blacker. As long as it's legit product, blacker = stronger. So, Synixhax, I'd be upset that your 20x is greener than your 10x. (but your 10x could have been fake of course)

 

You can get the tar out by using pure salvorin on the leaf, probably more viable at 20x whereas 5x-10x you can get a non-standardized ethanol treatment cycle which would leave the tar in.
It could be the 20x is standardized and made with pure salvorin moreso than the 10x.
I have a few different 10x's from various sources, some or darker, some are lighter. All do the job.

 

I've purchased the unstandardized 10x from IAmShaman and it was decent, but I could tell that the level of Salvinorin-A was very uneven, but it didn't matter, the price was right and the extract was green. I've also tried their standardized 20x and it was up to par, so I didn't find anythign wrong there... I usually just go for the 25x from Gaian Botanicals, it's all black, but it's good extract for the right price.