Venezuelans Reject Chavez

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Motion, Dec 2, 2007.

  1. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    Good!

    Venezuelans reject Chavez's bid for new powers

    Posted 35 minutes ago


    Venezuelans have rejected President Hugo Chavez's bid to win new powers in an unprecedented defeat...

    ABC.net



     
  2. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    I was worried there for a while. I was thinking that Venezuelans were going to go along with this because Chavez had sweeten them up with social programs.
     
  3. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

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    But how will he take his revenge? On Spanish banks?
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    So who will it be now? A western Anglo-American establishment puppet who will allow the country to be raped and pillaged?
     
  5. wackyiraqi

    wackyiraqi Senior Member

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    If all goes well.
     
  6. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    How exactly would that happen?
     
  7. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    *breathes a quick sigh of relief*
     
  8. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

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    Good to see you defending socialists Rat, like we didn't know you were red all along.
     
  9. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Who here thinks the U.S. had a hand in the outcome ?
     
  10. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    Who here appreciates the blatant misinformation in this thread? Who here has been logging far too much time with Fox News?

    The referendum in Venezuela was for a constitutional ammendment to remove presidential term limits. Not to increase or even change presidential powers. I love it when the media conveniently rearranges facts to meet the admin's needs and then spoonfeeds America raw, unprocessed bullshit.

    And if you recall, Clinton attempted the same move and those same neo-cons who stepped in a quashed it are applauding the Venezuelan people for doing the "right thing". Pity, those nice Venezuelan people are tasting the fruits of the oil and agricultural products they export. At least until another Rightie grabs power with empty promises at which point they can go back to the squalor they've been living in since their country joined OPEC.

    Socialism is soooooooooooo scary.
     
  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Exactly. The only thing this vote did was maintain their constitution. I wish the American people and their congress had the balls to do the same.

    Pepik can only make his points by insulting others and redirecting the discussion.
     
  12. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

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    You haven't got the faintest clue what you are talking about. Why are you sneering about Fox News viewers when you obviously made no effort to read up on the subject at all?

    There were 69 constitutional amendments in the referendum in total, 33 of which were proposed by President Chávez (Proposal A) and 36 by National Assembly (Proposal B). The proposals were voted on seperately, and both lost. In addition to term limits, the referendum would have increased the presidential term from six to seven years, introduced changes to the country's administrative structure, ended the autonomy of the central bank, and put the president in charge of administering the country's international reserves.

    Gardener, good to see that as usual you rush in to applaud when someone gives you what you want to hear, regardless of whether its true.
     
  13. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    YES, indeed I do, and will continue to do so. Thing is his post is more factual than most that you post. The vote wasn't about Chavez it was about the constitution and the organization and powers of the government. And the voters have spoken, not about Chavez but have protected their constitution, which no one in the US seems concerned about. Hearings are all we get. Democracy seems to work better in Venezuela than it does in the US.
     
  14. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

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    You are a joke and a half. If MOST of my post is not factual, please point out ONE SINGLE THING that is not factual. One. Go on, say it.
     
  15. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    Your sig is not factual.
     
  16. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    The biggest story of the week, and probably the least-reported.

    You'd think that Latin American voters saying no to socialist authoritarianism would be big news, but apparently not.
     
  17. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Mr Chavez remains in office and in control of a great deal of the goverment.


    Poor people in Venezuela will be poor no matter who is at the reins of power.

    If Mr. Chavez wants to increase the wealth of his nation, he should concentrate on creating wealth and opportunities for investment.
     
  18. Charise

    Charise Naked to the Cosmos

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    Well, I saw the story on the front page of all the major news sites, and they all had long articles about it. I don't watch hardly any TV, so I don't know how they covered the story. Even the Venezuelan site that is run by the govt. (venezuelanalysis.com) had an article where Chavez accepted defeat and didn't challenge the results (he called it a 'foto finish'). Sounds like a democracy to me. Maybe even more democratic than the U.S. in some ways. I'm not saying that I am or am not sympathetic to Chavez-just an observation about their system and Chavez's acceptance of the electoral results.
     
  19. MaximusXXX

    MaximusXXX Senior Member

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    I like Chavez like I do Castro, not because they're commies, but because they crack me up so much, ah Latino Dictators, they make me laugh, where are Pinochet's kids btw??
     
  20. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Hiding in shame through a witness protection program?

    Michelle Bachelet has effectively been governing the country for over a year now as the first female head of state in Chile, seating half of her Cabinet offices with female Ministers, something recently unheard of until she was elected.
     
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