right. So. me and a friend were in Camden yesterday, and decided to get some x60 salvia. Ive done x20 before, but all i had was laughing for a minute or so. Last night we'd smoked a few joints, and then decided to have some salvia. I had one toke of 60x through a bong, held it deep for 30 seconds, then lay down, and dozed off. Then, it was all black, and suddenly, i became 3 lines. I was these lines, and they made circles, and gradually kept doing a bigger circle each time around the last circle they made, this zoomed out, and i saw an outline of myself, this is when i began to get freaked out, because i was stuck like this, continually going round, and it was my own life and person i was creating in these lines! Everything gradually got clearer, and i created myself, i was then in my own head, and got up (i was kind of awake here) i started looking at everyone else, and they looked at me, i was terrified that i would be stuck in these lines forever, just making every movement that anyone makes on the planet. Every time someone spoke or moved in the room id scream at them because they were hurting me by moving, as i had to draw those movements, a friend was trying to cool me down but i just kepts saying "its hopeless, it'll never stop!" "just stop it! It's hopeless" and other stuff! i saw everyone as if they were cartoon characters, as the lines gradually got more defined like pixels on a camera. It was so confusing, and i felt like id suddenyl been dropped into a cartoon as was stuck. However, a day on, i still feel dislodged. It's as if i was dropped into this world yesterday, and my brain was pre-flashed with memories of the past 16 years!!! For example, i knew this mroning what my bedroom looked like, and stuff, but i didnt know what it felt like to be in it!!! Its like i only had half the memory! Thats probably well condusing, but is it normal for the effects of salvia to like... stay with you for a day! When i think of life now, and everythign existing, i just cant get my head around it, because i keep thinking its all jsut these 3 lines!
A part of me logically knows that our reality IS the less "real" of the two. The other reality is maleable, highly energetic and in a constant state of change and this is what I believe higher states of consciousness to be. According to current theories in physics, you created a new reality where your bedroom and your life is only "three lines". By thinking about it, we create it. Timelines apparently work the same way. Both realities can be equally valid. It doesn't have to be a choice. in 2008 the CERN facility in Switzerland (largest particle accelerator ever made) goes online and will attempt to prove we are sandwiched in between 10, 11 or 26 dimensions. String theory consists of vibrating "lines" and strings that make up matter. I'm starting to believe salvia gives us glimpses into those dimensions of reality. Check on Google video for the three part series. "The Elegant Universe". It has salvia written all over it. I think your three lines experience will surprise you. The Elegant Universe: Part 1 - http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-1322493346942339345 Part 2 - http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=-1220029554914167356 Part 3 - http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=1736748358304155609
ostego I had a similar after effect when i did LSD, it was starting to scare me because it lasted for a long time and i began to fear that i would never be normal again. When i posted here people told me that i needed to just relax and let it go. They were right. The reason the effect is lasting is because you are dwelling on it, and the more you dwell on the more it will effect you. It took me a while to realize this but once i did, the effects went away within a day. Just relax and enjoy everything that happens to you graphicsfx I agree with the thought that salvia helps to see glimpses. Our brains have evolved through evolution to process that information which is most vital to our biological survival on earth. When we do drugs, we alter how our mind functions, and I think some drugs (psychedelics in particular) force our brains to pick up on and process information that is unnecessary or distracting to biological survival. Science may be able to qualitatively describe and prove the existence of multi-dimensional space-time and other incredible phenomena, but we the druggies are the ones who gain a first hand experience of such things! happy tripping!
You are onto something I have been studying graphicx. The state you are in on salvia seems to have something to do with dimensionality and our perceptions of it. You are right, there are other dimensions which are not observable in our normal state. Whether or not they are while in altered states is debateable, but not disproven. But, there seems to be some possibility to it. One common experience of salvia is frame dragging effects or the perception of multiple possible realities. This too has roots that may link to quantum physics and string theories. It is my own belief or theory that all possible realities exist, in fact they must. Perhaps it is all that is. One reality is no less valid than the next, it is just not the current reality. Riddle me this. How does time pass? How can it in fact pass? It is but illusion. At what point does this moment become the next? At what point did the past become the present? How and what change actually occurs to define this moment of passage between one "moment" and the next? Is it somehow quantized and in fact not linear? Is the passage of time marked by quantum movement of 1 "particle" or all of them at once? If so than we can already say that our definition is wrong as we perceive it to be by modern definition. It is therefore my theory that time doesnt exist or pass. It is an illusion of your consciousness which instead of interpreting it's condition as moving thru realities, interprets it as "moving through time" I think it is our fundamental understanding of ourselves and our condition that perhaps is flawed. Which reality you are in NOW is only a perception. It is the reality you have chosen for now. Perhaps we somehow filter and channel ourselves through these unfolding "realities" in a certain way while operating in normal human conscious mode, and quite differently when in altered states, meditation or dreams. Anyway I have gone on too long. Just a few thoughts on the matter. Witchdoctor
I so need some of that 60x I need my bong back and a good friend to do it with me when I'm back in the U.S
Woah! i totally see where you guys are coming from! Damn, this really wants me want to go get some more got 1g of 60x from Camden for £20 (good old haggling!). I really wanna see if there's more to this than i thought, or whether it was jsut a lucky one off! My friend, who also did it thought he was flying on 20x and thought we lived in a super mario world on 60x so i guess im still mroe insightful than him!!!
It is all 3 lines. Proton Neutron Electron Each a point. Add time, you get a line. With time, mix them all together Then you get everything! It's not that you were making anything you were just recognizing whats there Next time, don't get so hung up on ego and think your doing it Just watch what it does without you It will do it the same either way
How does time pass? We'll first there was a big bang, from a single point. Then that went off into 2 (boson and fermion) or (physical and non physical) then that went to atoms then to molecules then to rock then to plants... animals then to us! and here we are. Just really complex big bangs Like BAM, here we are. All in one single moment. Right here, just now, all of time in us. And there is only one physical manifestation. The other dimensions exist in the level of energy, the quantum level if you will. It takes time for the observations of the quantum, the energy level to work there way up through, atom, molecule, etc. But when working at the energy level, changes are instant. Just gotta wait a little bit of time for them to work there way to and manifest to the physical.
