foods that will let you live to be 90

I must admit most anything nowadays is dangerous to eat. The government wants to kill people by either cancer or heart disease.

If they didnt they wouldnt allow the use of partially hydrogenated oils, mono and diglycerides..etc. Trans fats have many names just like the devil does in the bible. He isnt just the devil. He is satan, the serpent, lucifer, prince of darkness, the dragon..etc.

Same with trans fats go by different names.

Its not just fast food places either.

Cherry pie/ Apple pie is just as dangerous since if u read the ingredients it lists: partially hydrogenated oils.

Its been said that partially hydrogenated oils: aka...trans fats are just as bad if not worse than saturated fats.

I guess its just as bad eating an apple pie than it is to eat an artery clogging whopper, big mac, or wendy's hamburger.

Chips and cookies and alot of processed foods contain the transfatty acids.

Only way to avoid them altogether is to only eat fresh foods like fruits/vegs, brown rice..etc. Its kind of hard to eat just those when u have all this other garbage nearby.

I say we dont allow it to be made period.

some of the processed rices like rice o roni have trans fats.

I remember some quaker instant oatmeal like peaches and cream used to.

Crackers even have transfat so i guess u are better off eating soup with no crackers.

Its pretty hard to live to be 100 when the government is trying to clog your arteries with all the trans fats.

And not its not simply just choice these days. Alot of people dont know whats bad for them.

I work at a gas station and i see people buy stuff that has partially hydrogenated oils in it.

Only safe foods to eat are fatty fish, fruits and vegetables and whole grains.

Dairy products are also artery cloggers.

Shit people raise their kids on that crap.

Id rather raise my kids on soy products

Soy is alot healthier.

 

While I would agree trans fat in margarine is to be avoided at all costs, I cannot agree with the idea of saturated fat being unhealthy.If you can show me scientific evidence that saturated fat alone is unhealthy, I will run nude through the woods for at least 10 minutes.

Why blame the government?

Scientific evidnce?

Soy destroys the thyroid gland.

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/soydangers.html

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/Soy%20Allergens.html

 

If you can show me scientific evidence that saturated fat alone is unhealthy, I will run nude through the woods for at least 10 minutes.
you just want an excuse lol !

 

I guess saturated fat should be in moderation. But yeah just don't buy crap even if it looks healthy there is probably trans fat or high fructose corn syrup in it. I figured out that if you just buy stuff from Whole Foods or Trader Joes then you are getting good food with good ingredients and no weird stuff!
There ARE certain brands in normal grocery stores that don't put weird stuff in their food but you have to look carefully.

Basically when you look at the ingredients, if its what you would use to make it then its okay, but if the list is long and filled with words you don't know you probably shouldn't eat it.

Of course these are just my standards and advice..

 

Check out this thread,
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154124&page=1&pp=10

 

Soy also messes with your estrogen level. That means if you're a healthy young woman who eats a lot of processed soy (tofu, soy milk, etc.), you WILL have problems with early menopause and breast cancer.

Why are you so down on food, man? It's absolutely true that the healthiest way to eat is with fresh fruits and veggies and brown rice, but just take everything in moderation. Don't go overboard down the healthy eating path, it'll stress you out, then your adrenal glands will suffer and you'll be sick anyway. Trust me, I've been there!

Just chill out, have a delicious rice cake, and watch a little Spongebob. Can you do that?

 

It is not just trans fats but also all those artificial flavors and colors, perservatives, etc. that are in processed foods. I highly suggest avoiding processed foods as much as possible, whether they have trans fats or not. Eating fresh whole foods will always be better for you, especially local foods. A fresh baked apple pie made from fresh ingredients will not only be much better for you but will taste way better as well.

 

Me no understand. I am a wholefood omni ie I eat the good aspects of a good vegie diet such as brown rice (I always soak first) but also eat oily fish as well as free range lamb and beef.

Yes but make the pastry of the apple pie with butter not margarine otherwise you are wasting other good ingredients.

Margarine, breakfast cereals and unfermented soy products are some of the most messed around foods there are. Actually margarine is not food, it is a type of plastic.

 

Sweetie, that part of my comment was for dongquai, the original poster. But thanks for being defensive.

 

There is quite a bit of evidence that dairy isnt good for a person watch the movie supersize me and the guys who made icecream like ben and jerry's or baskin robbins.

The one guy remembers feeling sick all the time and if i remember one of them either develops diabetes or has a heart operation and another dies at 52 from heart disease. The guy who remembered feeling sick trying all the flavors of icecream said u cant deny the facts.

Basically most animal products are unhealthy and most plant products are healthy. There are exceptions however.

Salmon which is an animal is very healthy since it contains polyunsaturated fats. Beef or pork on the other hand isnt since its saturated.

Chicken and turkey are ok but still might add to cholesterol levels since they are animal products. Fish might add but more likely it will benefit by removing cholesterol because of the unsaturated fatty acids present in it.

Most plant products are good but some arnt like coconuts and coconut milk. Studies have shown they raise cholesterol levels compared to unsaturated oils like corn oil.

I still dont think corn oil, safflower, soy, canola are any good. I think olive oil and hemp oil are good but as long as they arnt heated.

I agree like someone said that if its a long list of ingredients its prob not good for ya.

If it is more like 1-4 ingredients its prob not too bad.

I work at a convenience store and I see people buying hotdogs all the time. Its like 1 hotdog already contains 11 grams of saturated fat and then they are eating 2. Thats already over the daily recommended amount of less than 20 grams and who knows maybe they are going to have a slice of pizza for dinner.

I dont think too many people read the labels. I know I didnt use to. Its not they dont care some are just not educated.

 

Spending your entire life checking labels and worrying about your food isn't much of a life, is it? You know how to eat healthy. Eat what you eat, but don't give yourself a stomach ache worrying about how all of society eats. It'll give you an ulcer, and that's not healthy either!

 

This must be one of the most muddled and confused posts I have read for a long time.

That does not mean to say that butter and traditional cheeses are unhealthy. Also good deal of ice cream is made with skimmed milk that is not very healthy.

Nonsense. Mankind has been eating animal products for eons.

What salmon contains is long chain omega-3's that is a type of polyunsaturated fat.These are also found in what are known as oily fish.White fish on the other hand has far less omega 3's. Other seafood such as prawns, lobster, and squid also contain some long shain omega 3's.
Free range beef does contain some long shain omega 3's although not in the same quantity as oily fish.

Beef fat is not 100% saturated but more like 54% ,not that it really matters.

Pork fat aka lard contains more unsaturated fat than saturated. The following table copied from wikipedia:

Saturated fats 38–43 %:
Palmitic acid: 25–28 %
Stearic acid: 12–14 %
Myristic acid: 1 %

Unsaturated fats 56–62 %

Monounsaturated fats 47–50%:
Oleic acid: 44–47 %
Palmitoleic acid: 3 % Polyunsaturated fats Linoleic acid: 6–10 % [1] [2]

Dietary cholesterol makes no difference to your blood cholesterol levels.

Consuming oily fish will make blood thinner but it does not remove cholesterol.

This makes no sense.

Hot dogs can hardly be called a wholefood like fresh beef or lamb is.

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That does not mean to say that butter and traditional cheeses are unhealthy.

Mankind has been eating animal products for eons.

Dietary cholesterol makes no difference to your blood cholesterol levels.




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Some cheeses might be ok but cheddar cheese should not be consumed to often.

Butter i still disagree. There are better things like hummus or olive oil.

So what if mankind has been eating animals for eons. Mankind has also had diseases for decades. Im sure wild redmeat was alot healthier than the stuff they sell at grocery stores today.

So dietary cholesterol doesnt raise cholesterol levels? What does then?

 

^^^ Myocardial infarction is a disease of the 20th century. Butter is mentioned in the Bible.
Can you tell me more about cheddar cheese?

It has been suggested that saturated fat can raise your cholesterol levels slightly,but once you are over 50 the lower your cholesterol levels, the greater your chance of dying.Instead of having cholesterol lowering drugs, it would make more senses to have a drug that raises your cholesterol levels.

 

Old people don't pay enough taxes and even have the nerve to claim what they deserve from tax money after retirement sometimes. Why would the government wan them to live? pfft

 

OMG! You're being sarcastic, right?

 

this is like a war zone

I have a small herb and veggie garden on my back porch

I treat myself sometimes

In my opinion, our lifestyles kill as much as what we eat does

working out plays a big role on our matabolism and toxin levels

peacee

 

and when ones allergic to soy and fruits and some vegies and whole foods wheat breads like myself than what??


i'm eating unhealthy??

You need to stop generalizing worry about yourself

 

In all honesty, I don't think that the government is even remotely that smart....

While I'm all in favor of eating healthily in general, I think you're more likely to die at a young age from worrying about all that, than from anything else....

 

Now I'm pretty hardcore about nutrition, but I don't think we should take away people's freedom of choice. I do think it's crazy when people raise their kids on junk-food. That's one case where intervention is in order since kids aren't really old enough to know how to balance their diet without adult help, but for adults, the key to everything is moderation and balance. If some people want to do nothing but sit on the couch and eat chips, hey, that's their choice. You can talk nutrition to them until you're blue in the face and they'll still want to do what they want to do. you can't save everyone. Now kids, that's a completely different matter. Childhood obesity rates are higher and higher, because our kids get fed a lot of junk food and their recess and gym time in school keeps getting shorter and shorter, plus families are more sedentary. I agree that changes need to be made, but you can't take the junk food completely away.

When I eat junk food, I know I'm eating junk food. I'm usually eating it recreationally (like at the holidays, for instance). Most people don't honestly think they're eating something good for them when they eat fast food or junk...it's usually for fun, and doing that once in awhile is okay, as long as you go back to balancing everything out.