killing a cat is art?

Discussion in 'Pets and Animals' started by amber, Sep 10, 2004.

  1. amber

    amber Member

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    http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ap/0904/10_01_cat_kill.html

    check this news story out~ i can't believe they're going to show that movie at the Toronto film festival. So so very wrong. It's fucked up how some people are so desensitized to animals physical/emotional feelings and i think showing this movie will inspire more people to do the same... I know way too many idiots who would love to see this movie and go out then go out and make one of their own or something like that.
     
  2. Elle

    Elle Senior Member

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    It's sickening. There are no words.......:mad:
     
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  3. Sage-Phoenix

    Sage-Phoenix Imagine

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    Ditto

    I'm not much of a cat person, but any animal cruelty is evil.
     
  4. Day Dreamer

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    Wanting to do those kinds of things, much less record it and show it to millions of people, is extreme mental sickness. People like that should be euthanized.

    "Power, an ex-vegetarian who once worked in a slaughterhouse, said he intended to eat the cat after he killed it, but one of his roommates called police upon discovering the head in the refrigerator."

    I don't intend to sound heartless, but exactly what good are people like these doing for the world?
     
  5. airforcedrew

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    I agree totally. Sounds like a young Jeffry Dahmer in the making.
     
  6. OSF

    OSF Señor ******

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    This is a pretty tough one.

    I do not condone the actions of that 21-year-old filmmaker, Jesse Power, who made the fifteen-minute video. While I sympathize with his ideas, "the hypocrisy of society for allowing the killing of some animals for meat, and not others." I can only say, of his attempted social commentary, that youth and eagerness got the better of him and destructed any well meaning message he may have originally intended.

    Or he could have been a psycho that likes to torture animals.

    Regardless, ‘Casuistry; The art of killing a cat’, the film in question should not be so quickly thrown aside. I suppose the title is a little misleading to anyone who does not recognize [or desire to learn] the meaning of the word casuistry. Based solely on the title, and as the article suggests, we should know that this documentary is not intended to glorify the killing of animals, or suggest that there is any art involved in the heinous actions of that fucked up kid.

    The article mentions a few other things that should be considered. It says that not a single second or frame from Powers home video is shown. The article also makes it clear that this documentary is an attempt to explain why Power would do something "so sick and stupid", and analyses the social reaction to the court case.

    " ... the film makes it clear there is no excuse, artistic or otherwise, for animal cruelty," said Toronto Sun columnist Bruce Kirkland, "So the call for the film to be pulled is an overreaction, perhaps naive and foolish, and certainly misguided."

    Maybe we should be promoting this film instead of chastising it.

    It is, after all, saying that killing a cat is not art .
     
  7. Raving Sultan

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    Most serial killers start off by torturing and killing animals for practice. Hurting kittens is disgusting, why don't you go fuck around with some grizzly bears or something.
     
  8. Jack_Straw2208

    Jack_Straw2208 Senior Member

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    gah... animal rights nazi's sicken me. no one cares about what a cow (or cat for that matter) looks like before we eat it. it tastes good, it keeps us healthy, thats all that matters.



    btw, sorry for being such an ass. having a mental split right now...
     
  9. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    this is the first time i have ever agreed with you
     
  10. OSF

    OSF Señor ******

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    Did it hurt?

    :)
     
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    Im not a peta nazi in anyway, but I still dont agree with what the "artist" did. It seems that he didn't explore all his options to illustrate his point. There has to be another way to show what he wanted to show without killing an animal.
     
  12. magicmonkey

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    The gut instince of anyone who isn't already mentaly unstable is to be horrified by torture, considering that I think it's a good thing that this film is getting a large public audience as it will probably make quite a few people very upset. To try and shut away something that has already happened and you can't change is a silly idea when you could use that to footage to help the animal rights cause. Would you have all the animal rights posters which show animal being tortured torn down and replaced by pictures showing animals having fun in testing labs?
     
  13. BellaItalia77

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    What.. the.. fuck.

    I don't care what message he was trying to convey - and I may very well sound close-minded with that statment being said, but in this case I don't care. I have a cat, and I love him like he was my own child...I could never imagine killing a cat and calling it "art". Hell, I hate spiders and bugs and I wouldn't even kill THOSE and call it art, especially if someone considered it a pet. Man, that really broke my heart. I can't believe this.
     
  14. ryupower

    ryupower NO capcom included

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    Amber...did you visit the veggie boards? Since I saw the same topic with the same name there....I already replied to it. It's a sickening and cruel act...wonder if some mlitary veg*n company's gonna find out.Peta perhaps? Man they'd get mad....

    edit: I read that the poor cat was heard moaning painfully throughout the whole video...ugh, people are so cruel...
     
  15. magicmonkey

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    I quite like cats as well, I used to live with a guy who had 5 cats and I loved them all (apart from when they put their bum in my face when I was trying to eat, eurgh!). The point of the title of the film is to say that it's NOT art, please educate yourself before going off the rails as there are far too many people doing that already.
     
  16. BellaItalia77

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    They could've done something else...they didn't have to do that. SO, I will remain off the rails. There are many ways to prove a point. They didn't have to take that road.
     
  17. magicmonkey

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    They made a movie to villanies a terrible act and you accuse it of backing the cruelty. Its an indictment on animal cruelty and you're saying that it's like an advert trying to convince us that cruelty is ok, I'd call that uneducated (current subject alone of course) and completely off the rails
     
  18. BellaItalia77

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    Mkay. You need to get yer panties out of a wad, amigo.

    Did I SAY that it was backing cruelty? No. Did I SAY that its like an advert, trying to convince us that cruelty is okay? No.

    I'd call you uneducated (on reading my posts), my friend.

    What I said, was that I didn't condone killing cats for any reason whatsoever, whether it be an example of what is wrong or not. They may have had good intentions...but it still doesn't make it right in my eyes.
     
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    ok, Zev Asher made a film to make the point that it wasn't right to kill/torture animals as Jesse Power did and you're now saying that the film shouldn't be shown because it's not right to kill/torture animals, I'm juist trying to understand where you're coming from with this one as it's a bit elusive to me. The person who made the film that is being shown did not hurt any animals...
     
  20. BellaItalia77

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    IT ISN'T RIGHT TO KILL CATS PERIOD. lol. That is where I'm coming from. It isn't right to do it, make a movie of it, display it, or any other points I'm missing. I don't care that the person didn't hurt the cat, and is made the film - the film shouldn't be shown. Do you know how many idiots out there are going to think it's cool and copy the film? It just isn't right at all. There are other ways to prove the point that it isn't right to kill/torture animals. . this is an extreme, and I don't like the film. I don't disagree with the point trying to be made...but there is no way that I will condone the torture and killing of a cat to prove this point.
     

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