overpopulation

Discussion in 'The Environment' started by Acorn, May 26, 2005.

  1. Shamanic Steve

    Shamanic Steve Member

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    Soylent Green. The only answer.
     
  2. pansy

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    haha... :D
     
  3. Agwé

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    I think it's not that we're overpopulated, it's more that our existing (vast) population is not responsible and for the most part do a lot more damage to the planet than good.
     
  4. broony

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    That said right there is fucked up to me. So we have all this land lets give it to the fuck fest? I dont mean to sound rude but we dont have endless land we have endless sky. Lets get some new materials and build up not out.
     
  5. dirtydog

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    Kandahar:
    You say there are hugh tracts of unused land. Congratulations! You just won a free one way trip to set up a homestead in one of the following:
    - Siberia
    - Northern Canada, Nunavut Territory
    - Greenland
    - Mongolia
    - Xinjiang
    - Tibet
    - Amazonia
    - Sahara
    - Southern Patagonia
    - Panama.
    Pack your bags, you lucky guy!
     
  6. Ms.Oh!

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    i think its relative

    in some areas its a problem and will continue to be

    but think about how many people live and die every day. somehow i think it evens out.
     
  7. Beckner420

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    ^ exactly. I think death is a shame, but if it wasnt for diseases, and even violence, the ammount of people would be too much, and make life harsher for the already harsh areas.

    Sickness and disease is the medicine trying to rid humans from the earth, which is no doubt better for the world.
     
  8. salmon4me

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    "Sickness and disease is the medicine trying to rid humans from the earth, which is no doubt better for the world."

    Might be better for the earth, but I'm not sold that it's better for the world.
     
  9. dirtydog

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    Some people believe there is a god, and I'm not one of them, but let me put it this way:
    If there is a god involved in earthly affairs, there is no reason to believe that it is sympathetic toward this particular species of primates which has eliminated its predators and many other species. In fact, this god might be working overtime on HIV and avian flu in order to stamp out this particular evolutionary error (human beings) before it causes further damage.

    "The Earth is a living being, and like other living things, it has diseases. Once of these, for example, is called Man." -- Nietzsche
     
  10. Natima

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    It sounds sadistic but your are right.
    Also, in the event of a major population decrease, maybe people would start to think properly and not just about toasters, Family Guy, and what toothbrush to buy.
    Obviously i'd like to think that in the event of a nuclear holocaust i would survive, and the world would have 5.5 billion fewer people.
    But if we all do die, good for mother earth. for we will rot, turn into bacteria, and once again, fertilise the earth, and feed whatever more sensible lifeforms that may have survived. i.e. cockroaches.
     
  11. Natima

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    Just saw that post, and... my (the myth we like to call) god!
    that quote is wonderful.
    And who could deny the earth is a living being?
     
  12. hippie_chick666

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    According to research, human population will level out by 2150, but who knows what epidemics and other disasters will plague mankind before then.

    Even when 1/3 of the population was killed by the bubonic plague, it just made a dent in the exponential population growth of humans. Who knows what the future will bring?

    Peace and love
     
  13. Flight From Ashiya

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    Global warming is going to reduce populations living near the equator because of the spread of desert regions.If g-w gets as bad as the most dire predictions;many city dwellers will be flooded by the river's rising levels due to the warmer sea temperatures.Most major cities are built around rivers.
    I think overpopulation can be controlled by natural forces-like such as I've mentioned.
     
  14. recklessrick

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    The balance of nature, an automatic safety system which is wars,plagues,famine, nature has these things to take care of overpopulation if we can't do it ourselves.
     
  15. Azog 150

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    In Britain I think we will run out off land, its quite a small place in comparison to the US and Canada, and lots off rural areas are having lots of towns expand with new houses quite rapidly. Are country-side is quite nice I think, but expanding towns ect are starting to ruin it I think.

    Although not a big problem now, I think, given enough time it could be.
     
  16. themnax

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    certainly there's a problem with human population being way out of balance with the rest of nature and its ability to maintain the fundimental basis of our existence.

    its not a future problem but one like how you boil a lobster, that's existed and has been continually getting worse for decades, even centuries. the only thing about it remaining for the future, and a very rapidly approaching future, is the point of roll over where environmental degridation all over the planet resaults in multiple ways all at once of as drastic an implosion of human population as excessive human population and ways of life, is already doing to the diversity of other species.

    it doesn't look like the diminishing economic viability of petrolium supplies is going to happen quick enough to alone be counted upon to force us to avoid that scenario.

    there still remains, if only just bearly, the posibility of doing so by choice.

    and really, it is only major economic intrests, and nothing else, that are standing in the way of making intelligent 'ecotopian' choices.

    every problem we have is exerbated by the existing, and increasingly greater, excessiveness of human population.

    hell if there were few enough of us, nothing that we are doing that is such a severe environmental problem would be. not even oil and cars. or clear cutting forests. or any of it. most of which began when there WERE few enough of us that these things were not widely forseen as ever able to become the problems they have become and are now.

    if human population hadn't started expanding expotentially arround 1750. or had stopped doing so arround 1917. we wouldn't be having this conversation or having to worry about any of it now.

    unfortunately it didn't and we do.

    and there really isn't any way out, of nature's finally reconing with us through famine and disease, then to drasticly reduce human birthrates.

    neither war nor prudishness are ever going to do it on anything like a sustainable basis.

    =^^=
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  17. nananie

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    i think men have to become mankind again, an animal species.
     
  18. trekker

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    People are making the Earth sick. There are too many people leaving a trail of waste and bad vibes. The planet has feelings; I believe the Earth is a sentient being. All things have life. The Earth has it's own anti-bodies to fight imbalance, like war and famine; and ourselves. We are like a germ to the Earth that has to be purged if the Earth is to be able to sustain life. Over population comes from our need to dominate and consume. Also, nothing on Earth hunts humans any more. We are the only species that hunts humans. Medicine and inovations are makeing us live longer. The sickly are not dying anymore because of medicine, so the survival of the fittest idea is mute. There is going to be a war that will wipe us off the planet, or leave some to try to fix it. I don't want to sound all doom and gloom, there has to be some kind of plauge to correct the imbalance of humans on the planet. I agree here with most of the posters that we can not do it ourselves. Maybe the aliens visiting the planet will help; if not them then God.

    I believe there are people doing the right thing. The future is coming for good or bad. Hitler tried euthenasia to fix the world to his vision. We just can't go exterminating people; or can we.
     
  19. Beckner420

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    Our main problem is that we think we own the world.

    This has lead to a dirty envoirnment, extinct animals and over population.

    The dinosaurs did none of this and were extinct... So we either ruin the world beyond livable condition, which apparently is already happening. Or disease breaks out killing all, or an astroid hits. The only solution to earths problems is the human race becoming extinct.
     
  20. recklessrick

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    Verlyn Klinkenberg of the Times projected a population growth in California,of 600 million by 2050. New York City is expected to have about 10 million by 2025. Some how Klinkenberg gets through the article he had written without saying MEXICO.
     

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