After holding the position of manager for about 2 yrs, I'm now unemployed again, business cessation,owner unable to secure another suitable location. The latest in a series of bad events, other bad events, which I have no control over, expected in the not too distant future. I does appear that if it wasn't for bad luck, I just wouldn't have any luck at all! I now have to begin a depressing and very difficult process of drastic changes. So, I'm also now considering reasons, to continue posting.
if you have 2 years of management experience, you should definitely be able to find some sort of a job somewhere
Im sorry to hear that Legend, I hope things will start looking up for you soon. You dont have to post here its no obligation, but sometimes its nice to have some support/advice from the users here. I know things are bad, but dont forget to smile
Update: Mother very ill, has been in a hospital for about 3 weeks, told that she should return to her home in another month. Cat is ill. Still unemployed. Unfortunately other new challenges or problems have appeared every week.
Man, it's just about motivation. You have to motivate yourself to be in a good mood and get things done. If you're constantly doing something then you have no time to think about negative things. You SHOULD have been able to find a job by now with 2yrs management experience which tells me that you've either been busy with other *maybe* more important things or just not bothering to do it. Throw on a good motivating track every morning. I recommend Natural Blues by Moby.
Read DrTJEcklberg's thread "Thoughts on life" in this same forum. Might give you a different perspective.
Oh legend I'm sorry to hear all that! There are jobs out there, just got to find them.. I know you'll find one! I'm so sorry to hear about your mom and your kitty. Life sometimes gets stormy and it can storm for a long time, but you know what happens when that storm is gone theres sunshine and rainbows. I know thats cheesy, but I mean to say that it will get better. Just because there are some dark clouds in the sky doesnt mean the blue skies disappear there just hidden. You can get through this legend I know!!!! My thoughts, my prayers, and my love are sent your way.!!!!!! Dont forget to smile Legend !
hey legend, i know how you feel. i also took care of my mum for about 10years before she died. i am also currently unemployed. here's a little story. maybe this will help cheer you up to see that there are others out there like you and i. my wife and i had a really good job at the same place. she went out on medical for 2 years and the job fired her on valentines day. the union got it got it turned around to where she wasn't fired but retired (she had 32 years there). they jacked her around for another 2 years before she could get her retirement. during that time i went out on medical also for over a year. yes we got medical pay but that didn't last long. i didn't think that i was going to be able to go back do to some very physical tests so with some money my wife had in an ira we bought a used book store. before we bought the store i did go and do the tests and to my surprise i did pass. i don't see how since i flunk the heart part several times. my wife took the same tests 3 times and they failed her on the littlest thing. anyway, i had the store when i got the news of my tests, but i knew there was no way that i could have my business and also work 10 hours a day (4:30 pm - 3:00am) 7 days a week. plus i was unhappy for about 4 or 5 years there, then the thing with my wife when they let her go, and also a sucky union made me more unhappy. also during that time i was diagnosed manic depressive (finally, i now know what is wrong with me). so being unhappy with work plus the diagnosage i thought i was doing the right thing. we knew that we would not have the same money any more, but being happy seemed better. so i told that job i was not coming back (and what they could do with it...after i hung up the phone ). less than a year and a half later i had to close my business due to lack of participation even though i was the only used book store in this small ass town. my wife got a job at a convenient store while we had the bookstore and is still there (very unhappy) and i have no job now. i have applied at places but no luck. i feel like this is all my fault. being manic depressive doesn't help either. i don't know what to do. sometimes i think my beliefs and my wants get in the way of finding a job. i hope things get better for you man.
Hi, In the past I found more effort would almost always result in a positive outcome. That no longer works! Daily life has become responding to a stream of negative events. I'm very anylatical, and risk adverse, but certainly have not been competent to halt/prevent bad events that have and continue to materalize. When behaviours almost never result in a just and fair outcome, one's life then becomes more difficult and strange .
I have been unemployed for three years now. it aint a good position. Not in today's british society. i will forget that awful "I" word for arguments sake. But it isn't easy. Next week i am having to go to a follow through course which is basically a load of lunatics who probably spend Friday nights potatoe painting with two front teeth hanging out of their mouths like Bugs Bunny. Than actually genuinely being honest, caring and helpful to those who desperately need work. So once again, i am being put on the magic roundabout. I will be hopeful as much i can. It is about continuing to look for work. Once you stop looking, you have 0 chance of getting work. The depression, the woes and of course friends you lose can make one age by ten years or more. eventually you will get a job. Having eons of time aint helpful. But like many people say to me, "Appreciate it now. For when you are in work, you will have very little time". My standard reply is, "I would rather work than have eons of time thinking about how gothic my life really has become, but i aint defeated yet".
Years ago I had gotten an vocation that turned out to be a no employment situation and also was saddled with student lone debt. Instead of grabbing for that job offer right out of college, the Mother pulled the heart strings and asked me to come home and help her out with the failing business. This was also way out in the boonies wilderness in colorado. So when it got really tough, mobility was difficult if you didn't have a car, or money for gas for the car, and then it was money for food. We still hauled water and chopped wood. Well we turned to Beloved Mother Earth for our Salvation and started to glean and gather. I think that this is probably one of the oldest vocations out there. We ethically wild-crafted herbs from the hill and mountain sides. And sold them to herbal companies that made tinctures and teas and sold bulk. Then when those companies started to outsource overseas (yes green corporations practice jacked up politics too) we switched to gathering seeds for reclamation and xeroscaping. Not a lot of people like to do manual labor anymore. Chop wood haul water, sell fruit at the side of the road... We never could raise a garden though as the land we lived on was crap, and the altitude too high and the growing season too short, also colorado has been suffering from a drought for a long time. We'd clean houses, prepare food for ranch hands, clean churches, clean windows. Then I also got a sponsor to watch over me during the tree planting season, as we had a tree planting co-op and they got contracts with the forest service to plant so many millions of trees. Fresh air and camping, see the last of the wild stallions before they were gone. Now gone. I planted trees for 2 years. We also picked gourmet mushroom up in montana, turns out there's a whole north, north-western mushroom picking industry and companies all the way over in Japan are interested in our wild grown mushrooms. There is always work to be found putting out fires in the national forest, and if that's not your cup of tea, there is the support crew that sets up meals and sleeping facilites for the firefighters/firejumpers. I've never been hired as a manager, but I know that I've been a manager many a time an various jobs. It does pay to be flexible, everything in nature must bend, of risk being broken. I've always found it difficult to make a living in the mainstream of dominant society as it is always unsustainable. Bob Marley said: they make the world so hard, everyday we have to keep on trying. SOmetimes networking through your social world pans out some creative opportunities. Creative opportunities feed the spirit and awaken the fire of intuition and attracts more opportunity. I had no idea I'd end up on such a journey. I've gone through a lot of hardship and homelessness, so has my husband, but somehow with faith and hope in the ability to create (in our spirit and mind) we made a way. We ate a lot of beans and rice too.
Great line for sure: They made their world so hard (so hard): Every day we got to keep on fighting (fighting); They made their world so hard (so hard): Every day the people are dyin' (dying), yeah!
I've been there, unemployed and depressed, and when the shit hits the fan, it all seems to happen at once. Furthermore, we're brain washed into thinking our self worth is somehow tied to our employment status, yet our employment status is really determined by others' PERCEPTION of our worth, which is not necessarily accurate, since some people are better able to market themselves than others. I have a hard time marketing myself 'cause I'm not a good bullshitter, but I'm honest, dependable, and hard working, and I don't require a lot of money, so I haven't had too much of a problem getting work. The key is not to take it too personally or get discouraged, and keep an open mind and be flexible, like she said. Opportunities can present themselves where you never imagined possible. You might have talents you never knew existed. Ideally, you'll find your natural flow, and it'll take you where you need to be. The other thing is to keep yourself occupied doing something constructive that gives you a sense of accomplishment, whether it be a hobby, some form of exercise, or self taught occupational skills and training. You might not be able to afford to go back to school, but you could hit a library. I work in a volatile occupation, so I've gotten used to changing jobs, sometimes voluntarily, and sometimes involuntarily. I lost my job *again* last summer, but I actually welcomed the change this time (they were turning into pricks). I got some stuff done around the house, went on some back packing trips, and spent time with the wife and kids. Good luck finding your flow. Be patient, and don't beat yourself up over it.
if you can you need to seek out or form an economic block if you think you can do it alone good luck america seems to have more scope for anyone wanting to join some sort of commune/ self help group. as it turns out the unemployed are the main stay of any economy without them there could be no "great" society. governments create an underclass that always needs to find low paid unrewarding jobs and most importantly they need these people to keep inflation down. without the unemployed the economic system we enjoy just couldn't work. the unemployed are a necessary feature of an economy, they are manufactured. the down side of this system is the social havoc that ravages our civilization in the name of economic stewardship. yes it can get get very wearing for the normal human being but unless you can try and band together for survival the future is always bleak.
Sad but true. However, often the people who are preyed upon by this system are put in this situation by their own doing, whether it be debilitating depression, dependency, or other circumstances, not that they have control over it, it just happens. The key to overcoming it is to be versatile, and not to be too desperate, employers take advantage of that.
It is typically cruel,the jobcentre get you off the books and cart you off to these asylums where lipservice professionals lie and ballshit its new captive audience with anecdotes and false promises. I say that getting a job is paramount to sanity. To avoid these mental institutions, so to speak, is critical to the very fabric of our lives. It is getting worse, the government have withdrawn money from these projects and the staff have been given a script of words to go by. If the staff were honest, they would say, "We can't help you due to a lack of resource". Yesterday was my first day at the loony bin. The students were sane, the teachers were numbnumbs. The same script handed out to us. Then we realised that Training is extinct and somehow, out of our forty pounds a week jsa, we need to find 500 quid to fund a training. Who is exactly working at the jobcentre? They must be ignorant and crazy if they can't see anything wrong with that. Come on, surely, please, *click click. AAaaaaaaaah! On the other side, keep looking and you will succeed. Additional: Heard that yesterday one staff member nearly ended up in hospital. Damn, I missed it. Thats the bitterness talkin'.
I and Tommy, Wish Everyone A Happy Holiday! Tommy was a homeless cat. He decided to reside with me a few months ago. He's pretty old and has some health problems. He will be eating a lot and I will have a few beers. HAPPY HOLIDAY EVERYONE
