Weak Women

One thing I have noticed over the years in my dealings with women both on and off line is that the MAJORITY of these women seem lost and confused when dealing with relationships.

As someone who has fought and promoted Women's Rights, it is very disheartening to see that the same stereotype of the 1950s (and further back) are the same roles that girls/women of today are stepping into : Mother/Slut.

Offline and around my area the majority of women have three goals: 1) Get married, 2) Have children, 3) Be a nurse or teacher.

Now, there is NOTHING wrong with this life at all, but the percentages are astounding. It is like "Stepford Wifeville" around here. It is like all these women went to Pleasantville High.

The "role" they play is aided by the notion that the majority of them are so far up some guy's ass that they turn into a pool of quivering jelly in his domineering presence and lose all human dignity.

I've heard "I love him so much that I don't care" (if he treats you like a doormat). And I've watched girls/women talk about how they just want to be dominated in sex as well. Now, as someone who loves to dom or sub in sex, I can admire that, but why be dominated ALL THE TIME?

I just can't understand these people. It makes me lose a lot of respect for them and I don't really want to do that. What I want to do is say, "Wake up! You are a human being, by god! Respect yourself and stop being a doormat!"

But, then again, would it matter? No.

Perhaps I am merely saddened by the fact that women have taken great steps in our world in the past only to be relegated to a piece of meat by the entertainment industry and the "man's world" society and they not only take it...they take it and like it.

uke:

 

umm... yeah whatever.

does anybody know what he is talking about?

 

Has it ever struck you there are women out there who don't want "women's rights"?

The lifespan of women has decreased since they have entered the workforce and are accepting roles traditionally male.

Working and shit, isn't what it's cracked up to be. Some women are wising up to that and realizing their foredaughters had it made.

That said, I do believe in the equality of women (if that's what they want). I am absolutely against treating women as sub-males. BUT, if I had long blonde hair (or brunette, as in moonshine ^ ) and a smokin' bod.......I'd have everything I wanted and some.

 

Well, I'll be the first to take your side on this one...
Sure, I'm 19 and married, and pregnant, and just thrilled about it. I enjoy being the housewife and everything, and if my husband asks for something, you bet I get up and get it for him. But it's because I ENJOY it. You could also bet I wouldn't hesitate to slap his ass around if he ever treated me like a doormat.

But a lot of the times, especially in my own lifestyle, I see women who DO try to step up to the plate and just get shot down... all the time. How do you think that makes them feel? A lot of younger girls and women are STILL being seen as "someone's girlfriend/wife just standing on the sidelines" and a lot of the time, there really is nothing they can do to change that. I sit with my husband and talk about things that most girls wouldn't, but in a group of male friends, I keep my mouth shut... because when a girl speaks up about something like muscle cars, big rigs, or heavy equipment, it's simply ignored. Not even treated as a part of the conversation, rude comments, nothing, just completely ignored. So, I keep my mouth shut, unless we're in a group of a (very) select few friends who know me very well and know that, yes, I DO know what we're talking about.

So honestly, a lot of the time, even if we try, it's just totally ignored. So we shut up unless we're with people that know us well enough... and my husband and I only have about, oh, 2 or 4 male friends who know me well enough not to ignore my entire presence in a conversation or anything. Older guys (in my family, guys my husband has worked with, etc) tend to be a bit different and more accepting, and even think it's cool that a young girl can step into a conversation about cars, Harleys, big trucks, etc... but that's just something I've noticed myself, it's different for everyone.

 

How can you say that?
Sure, on the outside, you might LOOK like you had everything you wanted "and then some"... but only girls like that realize how much they get treated like shit... and not to speak badly of anyone, because it's also by the female population. Do you know what it's like to talk to a man who talks to your chest? Do you know what it's like to have a COMPLETE STRANGER slap/grab your ass IN PUBLIC? Do you know what it's like for people to automatically assume you're an idiot just because you're hot? Do you know how much shit some girls talk about other girls that are a "threat" to them? Do you even have any sort of clue what kind of torture high school girls go through these days?
I highly doubt it, sir, and fortunately for you, you'll never have to.

 

Hey, it's a life for some. Does it make women weak? Well, weak is a relative word. I'm sure everybody could go pointing fingers, in one way or another, how each stereotype is weak. Everytime you point a finger, though, you have three pointing right back at you.

And just because somebody is a married nurse with children does not mean they permit to be treated like a dormat. If you truly think those 3 things equate that, then you really need to relook how you judge folks, because I don't believe you're getting an acurate picture at all.

 

No one is saying a married nurse with children is weak.

It is a sampling of what I see all the time with the way our society works. The old 1950s "Pleasantville" syndrome (is what I call it).

I see our society going back to that (with the exception of the working woman). Now, instead of the housewife, it is TWO working parents: The man and "his little wife" (who actually does more than he does).

I find the male dominated world to be ridiculous considering that many women are much more intelligent and could handle world affairs much better than what we have now or have had in the past.

That's one reason that I would actually vote for Hillary Clinton (if were going to). Because I believe that a woman could lead the free world much better than the white male-dominated system we've been fucked with forever.

I hate seeing us revert back to the "good ol' boy" system. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see a black President or a Hispanic president too. Not to get off the subject.

Women, to me, are very strong figures and it bothers the shit out of me to see the majority of them submit to some bonehead who has about a fraction of the intelligence she has, who knows only about machines, sports and money (again another sampling).

Yes, these are very generalized traits, but they are quite accurate in reality.

 

my boyfriends gonna make a much better housewif than i ever will. i hate cleaning, i suck at it and i hate doing it. i do love cooking, but hes better at baking than i am. plus he would like to work from home if we have kids so that he can take care of them

yeah, im fuckin lucky. and he likes to play top in bed too, rowr :drool: my perfect man

 

Well, there is a huge conservative movement in this country dating back to Reagan. And some gender roles have in fact moved away from the equality model.


But I'm hardly interested in generalizations these days.