what is the result of splitting a 20mg OC in two ? Does it become 2 10 mg time release? Or does it become more IR?
Actually they will remain time released unless crushed into powder. The way the contin pills (ms and oxy) work is that the insides turn into a sort of jelly/snot type of substance when exposed to moisture that stays binded together and releases slowly over 8-12 hours. Throw one in some water and you'll see what I mean.
When you shoot up a Oxycontin all you have to do is take off the outside coating which is the time release. I put the pill in my mouth and mosture from ths spit takes off the coating, I take it out and wipe off the rest of the coating with a napkin or my finger etc,Then I crush the pill up and put the powder in my spoon, But with oxy you have cook it up before you draw it into your needle its not like powdered heroin where you can cold shake it in the needle..So I heat it up until it just about boils and its ready to fucking shoot up.I would think if someone broke one in half it would not be time released any more becasue its open on the side and the oxy would leak out through there in the stomach ?
It's possible it varies by manufacturer I suppose. I know they've been changing the pills recently in an effort to combat other than intended use by various means. The MS Contin I had was manufactured by barr labs and turned to gel almost instantly upon coming in contact with water. Somewhere on my other forum is a write up on preparing the type of contin pills I mentioned for injection; specifically defeating the gel action and extracting the active ingredient. I'll see if I can find it for more information.
I've located the write up on my other forum. It references the newer type of time release and a method of defeating it, should someone hypothetically desire to do so. All credit for this write up goes to Chemethist. _______________________________ If you have ever tried to inject the new time released opiate pills like MS contin or OxyContin you probably know that its damn near impossible to get more than usually 25 % using just plain old water and sometimes you cant get any sad.gif . So if you would like to get the dope free of all the gack in the pills this procedure should work. Using this procedure will work for pretty much all the problematic shit in most pills, like hydroxypropyl and methyl cellulose, talc, ethylene glycol etc etc. Once again this procedure is for MS CONTIN, and other time release opiate pills only. If you have morphine sulphate, all you need to do is get rid of the sulphate, that procedure is listed below. So heres a step by step easy as shit way. Supplies: * Mineral spirits or varsol * Toluene or Chloroform * Concentrated Ammonia or some other base * Muriatic Acid or some other acid * Pyrex bowl * Porcelain bowl * 60 mL gardening syringe * Glasses * Graduated measuring cup * Paper coffee filters * hydrion pH papers * Heat source - If you want to do it professionally, then use a labratory heating element device listed in the elemental scientific catalogue. Right next to the magnetic stirring devices, which you might want as well. both items will cost you a total of $300. Otherwise this works as well -(outside with one of those camping stoves with an electric element would be the best, But if you must do it indoors and use your oven you better turn on the over head fan and pull a stool up next to your stove and be ready with the lid to the bowl just incase it flashes All of this stuff can be bought at hardware and gardening stores but if you can't manage to find Toluene because youre from the USA buy it from www.elementalscientific.net. Muriatic would be the best but if you cant get it other stuff like citric or acetic will work too. The preferred base would be concentrated Ammonia but if you cant get that household ammonia will work, Caustic lime or soda or potash will also work. 1- Remove the pill coating from your 20 pills with a piece of tissue paper dampened with acetone, if you dont have acetone laying around your crib just use water. 2-Crush up your 20 pills with shells removed and then place the powder in the pyrex casserole bowl. Make up a 50 mL solution of distilled water that is slighly acidic around pH 5 or 6. Add the Acidic Water to the powder and let them soak with no heat. 3-Make up a solution (150 mL) of 80% mineral spirits and 20% toluene or the substitutions of the two. Add this solution to the Acidic water and stir vigirously for a few minutes. 4-Be precise - use a themometer to moniter the inside temps. The temps stated on the dial do not heat the oven to the temperature listen on the dial. Turn the stove up to about 50 degrees celcius and leave it for ten minutes now turn it up to 80 degrees celcius and leave it for an additional 10 or fifteen minuites. During this time period stir the solution ever few minutes. Now tilt the bowl up and suck up with your syringe the entire 50 mL water solution (which is the bottom layer) and even 10 ml (in a seperate action) of the Nonpolar layer. Squirt out the Water layer into a clean pocelain bowl that can be heated on the stove, MAKE SURE you dont get any of the non polar into it. 5-Add an additional 50 mL of acidic water to the pyrex bowl and do exactly the same thing as you did with the previous 50 mL. You're done with the non polar so you can put it away. Once you have the 100 mL of the morphine/water solution in the porcelain bowl put it on the stove and heat to 90 degrees celcius for 5 minutes. (Around halfway between low and the next notch up before medium on your stove) You should really use a labratory heating element. Now while its still piping hot pour it into a clean glass and funnel cup with cotton stuffed in the spout of the funnel. Pour in an extra 5 ml through the funnel to get an morphine thats trapped. 6- Add Ammonia to the solution drop by drop until you hit a pH of 9.1. One you hit the 9.1 put the bowl in the freezer for 15 minutes stir it up then put it in the refridgerator for another 15 minutes. now pour the stuff into a funnel with 3 coffe filters in it, make sure to wet the filters with cold water before you pour in the mix. Once its filtered you will get the morphine freebase, if you wanna inject it as it is just mix it with some vinegar or dry it out and cook it with Acetic anhydride. So theres a walkthrough step by step, its not so bad, plus its better than wasting dope by trying to make it injectable with just water. Once you have this base cooking up heroin is even easier than this extraction. BTW this extraction on average yields about 95 percent of the total morphine from the pills. Edit: as far as I can tell this post does not violate the forums rules and regulations. If a moderator disagrees with my assessment please edit this post and I will not make posts describing such things in these forums in the future.
