The Beauty of Argyreia nervosa (Hawaiian Baby Woodrose)

I found some terms that described my experiences with HWBR. I was reading about experiences and this account perfectly described my experience. I have only had one proper trip on these, so ive reported on this trip a few times already but I want to offer a very apt description of the hawaiian baby woodrose experience and to ask if any of you feel that this applies or doesnt apply at all to their experience.

The trip begins with a Cosmic Contraction phase. In this phase one becomes lethargic, feels sick inside, can be very chilled out, uninhibited and abstracted. The contraction is comparable to the feeling of the world pushing in on you, your immediate environment is a burden, dispite being a playground. At a certain point one can break through to the Cosmic Expansion phase. On a few occasions of chewing the seeds i only hung out in the contraction phase which can be fun but also annoying because it is a let down compared to the cosmic expansion which i experienced one tiem after smoking marijuana, but it faded as the marijuana faded. the last tiem i took the seeds, i had performed a very effective extraction and shared the juice of 14 seeds with a friend equally. We smoked weed and hung out int he contraction for waht seemed like ages, playing tony hawk in the INCREDIBLE heat of that day last summer. eventually we couldnt handle it anymore and went down stairs to escape the heat and sit on the brand new leather sofa we got. i put on the documentary Touching the Void, thinking that it was going to really affect us. The last time we watched it, it was one of the mst intense doccos wed seen, but in the contraction, we were just seeing straight through the techniques of the movie to dramatise, and were questioning the extent that they remade the film, and it was just so boring, and such a headload, but all a while our bodies had started loosening up to the point where i couldnt stop moving my limbs around and my friend was slipping off the couch so smoothly it was like butter melting. It hit us that some sudden weight had been lifted from our minds and suddenly we were so full of thoughts and so disoriented by the sudden engulfment in thought and intensity of the moment, the very excitement that it was working so clearly and no longer did 'am i tripping?' thoughts come up. these thoughts are common in the contraction.

and well we realised that we had to get out of my hosue because we did not want to have to explain ourselves. needless to say, my mum arrived as soon as we had left my house and thought we were free. i quickly avoided getting into much of a conversation. after this, it was beautiful.

I dont want to go into too much depth because this post is long enough already, but in the Cosmic Expansion, one may feel in intense thought, incredible comfort in the beauty around oneself, constant intense thought, obscure detatchment to the animalistic ways of the world, as consciousness expands and covers all things, yet unable to take certain specific points of reference in time and in meaning amongst the intense jungle of thoughts.


ps. that night there was a massive storm and a friend of mine pulls out a bag of roley-moleys which we procede to take and drive into the docks under the sydney harbour bridge where we explore heratige sydney in an intense thunderstorm rolling the whole night. We returned to smoke weed as the sun rose that morning, totally in awe of our experience, and iwent to my first class of the year that morning. in class i put up my hand and got a chocolate for answering the question correctly. to this day, few experiences match it.

I read peoples experiences and I see some who experience the cosmic contraction and think that it is the limit of hawaiian baby woodrose. but ive read a lot of reports and it seems to me that it is easy to ingest the seeds poorly and never reach the expansion.

Take a bit of time and do an extraction, over a few days.

And smoke weed whilst in the contraction.

this is all I must impart on you

 

so.. no one has any idea what im talking about?

 

So your saying don't just chew the seeds?

 

hmmm... maybe.

I get this sort of floaty feeling, like being super lightheaded, then my consciousness and awareness kind of spreads outward into other realms of my mind.

i agree with that the most. a more concise (and less trippy/cool) explanation would be like lots of thoughts enter your head at once and you become very emotional, especially in terms of emotional attachment.

people are sometimes set up for a bad time by the nausea, but you have to put it past you and learn to accept it and learn to see the beauty in the trip. I find I can help people have a good trip just by being happy and listening to them.

 

i mostly mean the way that there are two distinct stages?

 

I always smoke weed while tripping, because it does often seem to push me over the ledge to some extent, or at least intensifies the exerience. And in the case of HBWR it helps fight the nausea, too. So I can only say amen to that.

The one time used HBWR (though I have already ordered new ones as we speak) I just crushed it, soaked it in mineral water for a few hours and drank the mixture including mush. It began incredible but turned into a bad trip, because I was stumbling around like a drunk buffoon, falling against walls unable to stabilise myself, and occasionally talking loose words to myself. I went to bed because I couldn't do much anymore being a total klutz, but couldn't sleep, got very feverish and my mind looped. I felt as though my memory had once been partially erased because I kept getting to blank spots in my brain where no thought was present. It was very weird and scary. I turned in at 12, and couldn't sleep til 7 AM and time was crawling unbelievably slow too. It was torture. That was with 8 seeds. So I'm going to be a bit more cautious next time, and do it at daytime.

How about that extraction, how does it work and what do you need? I'm very untechnical and I never have money so I'll probably keep with easier methods for the time being, but for future possibilities I'd like to hear about that miracle recipe of yours.

About the two stages: I can't really tell yet, because with me there seemed to be a very steady, linear increase in intensity. If I were to cut my trip in half I'd say I had a good half and a bad half. I have a trip planned for tomorrow or saturday and after that maybe I can tell you more about how I experienced it.

 

all you need is water. and i reccomend honey. im sure you have this already.

either way youre gonna need the seeds and they cost money

 

Yes, but I have ordered those already.

Only water and honey? Tell me, how do I do it?

Oh, something i wanted to ask: what is the recommended time between two HBWR trips? Like with shrooms it's best to leave a few weeks in between, how soon after a previous HBWR trip can you get full effects again?

 

crush seeds put in water add moderate amount of honey

leave for a few days in a cool, shady place,


shake few times a day when you happen to be around the jar/bottle/vessel that it is in.

 

That is all? Wow.
Is the honey just for taste or does it help the process? And... do I sieve the mush out?

Sorry for all the questions. Compared to me you're an expert.

 

Honey is most likely for the taste. And it is probably best to get all the mush out. If you keep it in there long enough all of the LSA will have soaked into the water, so you wont need to eat the mush.


BTW dont use tap. Chlorine kills LSA alkaloids. Your best bet is to use distilled but spring water should work as long as its not chlorinated.

 

how about soaking the crushed seeds in lime juice for 30 min and straining with a reusable coffee filter or strainer and mixing with oj that works well.