Cheney Halliburton Misconceptions

Some interesting reading

" A Kerry ad implies Cheney has a financial interest in Halliburton and is profiting from the company's contracts in Iraq. The fact is, Cheney doesn't gain a penny from Halliburton's contracts, and almost certainly won't lose even if Halliburton goes bankrupt... "

Factcheck.org

 

Can someone then explain what's the real deal on Halliburton? Are they this bad company that many, particularly on the left,have made them out to be? Also,what was different about Halliburton during the Clinton years? Was there any complaints about Halliburton back then?

 

Why are you digging up all this old crap?

http://informingvoters.org/Halliburton.asp

You fill in the blanks. And the latest news, they have moved to Dubai in the UAE.

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/dubai.html

Who ever said Clinton was lily white? He certainly gave Halliburton no bid contracts in the Balkans.

But I think if you read this article it will outline their progress, and who the major players have been.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0210-10.htm

 

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Yeah it's old but I still hear people criticizing Cheney in relation to Halliburton today. That article I thought would clarify the criticism of Cheney and Halliburton that's still going on.

 

That is on the books...you want to discuss what he gets off the books....
kickbacks, bribes...those fucking guys are pirates and criminals
fucking bastards spill oil all over the otters and seals and shit!!!
I will slap the shit out of faggot ass Dick Cheney!!! let him try and "pepper" me with a shotgun blast like he did his friend...

 

anyways, those guys are all puppets on a string for the real people in power

 

What are your sources for this? What mainstream news media has exposed this on Cheney? I ask that because the conservatives accuse the mainstream news media of having a liberal tilt so they shouldn't have no problem exposing Cheney's kickbacks and bribes.

 

The lie that the media has a liberal tilt is getting really old and tired. Read the links I posted and draw your own conclusions. I would like a full disclosure of the entire administration's stock portfolios and those of their families. Then we might have a clear picture of who has benefited by whom. And this goes for past, current and future administrations.

Because legally Cheney no longer has any legal ties to Haliburton does not mean that previous or future renumeration may not have happened or happen. What will happen in Dubai will not be open to examination.

 

Ewww. FactCheck.org

*hisses*

 

oh, so he's just helping his good 'ol boy pals make billions then. good to know.


also, anyone know what cheney is doing after the vice-presidency? like maybe, i dunno, hooking back up with the company he used to work for that made billions and went through tremendous expansion and global growth while he was in office and through the no bid contracts, maybe?

 

Yeah,I know,accurate info has a way of disrupting what some people would rather believe.

 

This is about the cronyism related to Halliburton:


" As for Halliburton, it's true the company is under investigation (by Bush's Pentagon) for a variety of allegations of possible overcharging in connection with the Iraq war. And it's also true that Vice President Richard Cheney once headed the company. But it is false to imply that Bush personally awarded a contract to Halliburton.

The "no-bid contract" in question is actually an extension of an earlier contract to support US troops overseas that Halliburton won under open bidding.

In fact, the notion that Halliburton benefitted from any cronyism has been poo-poohed by a Harvard University professor, Steven Kelman, who was administrator of the Office of Federal Procurement Policy in the Clinton administration. "One would be hard-pressed to discover anyone with a working knowledge of how federal contracts are awarded . . . who doesn't regard these allegations as being somewhere between highly improbable and utterly absurd," Kelman wrote in the Washington Post last November... "

Factcheck.org

 

ha ha
that sounds like Cheney
that actually makes perfect sense, i bet that is what he will do.
Go back to halliburton and make billions more.
fat bald-headed evil maniac swimming in money like scrooge McDuck in a big ass vault...

 

I guess it shouldn't surprise me that there's someone out there defending Cheney. After all, Hitler had supporters too (and Mike Godwin can blow me).

 

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I don't see this as defending Cheney. Can you discredit Factcheck.org on this?

Too many people,in this case on the left,are wasting time creating and inventing facts with things like this. I have no support for Bush and the Iraq invasion but I do feel misconceptions need to be clarified as far as what is and insn't accurate because inaccurate info is shapping people's views.

 

Political Donations

MoveOn criticizes the Republican trio for accepting money from defense contractors, implicitly linking the contributions and their votes. But these three are hardly big recipients of defense industry dollars.

Like most industries, defense doesn't give exclusively to Republicans. It makes more business and political sense to spread the goodies around. Since 1998 Defense PACs have given approximately a third of their donations for federal candidates to Democrats...


FactCheck

 

I don't see this as defending Cheney. Can you discredit Factcheck.org on this?

Factcheck.Org:
"The agreement states that it is "irrevocable and may not be terminated, waived or amended," so the Cheney's can't take back their options later. The options owned by the Cheney's have been valued at nearly $8 million, his attorney says. Such valuations are rough estimates only -- the actual value will depend on what happens to stock prices in the future, which of course can't be known beforehand. But it is clear that giving up rights to the future profits constitutes a significant financial sacrifice, and a sizable donation to the chosen charities."
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The Vice President can waive international treaties, institute torture and the holding of US citizens without charges, commit outright fraud to start a war, commit treason by outing covert agents to enemy powers, but you think his "agreement" to donate his war profits to charity is legally binding? Hell, his lawyers could probably have that document legally nullified in under ten minutes (and I'd bet thanksgiving dinner that the son of a bitch already has, but has the court order under seal for "national security reasons").

The people who died to make that traitor prick wealthier will remain dead, however. They won't get to argue their cases.

Also, those making a killing on this war get most of their funds "under the table." Look at the Duke Cunningham scandal for a lesson in how The Party handles its blood money:

Wikipedia.Org:
The Cunningham Scandal is a US political scandal in which defense contractors paid bribes to members of Congress, and officials in the US Defense Department, in return for political favors in the form of federal contracts. Most notable amongst the recipients of the bribes was California Congressman Duke Cunningham who pled guilty to receiving over $2.3 million in bribes.

And it figures that one of Cheney's alleged charities pays money to religious schools. I guess the others are probably hospital-based charities probably help closeted gay Republicans find gay cock in gay-frequented restrooms.

Still, I think too much has been made of Cheney's war-profiteering. He truly seems to believe that the "End Times" are here, and that what we need now is Armageddon. So I don't think he believes he will be around to enjoy these profits anyway, but his predatory nature suggests he'll get it one way or another.

 

Anyone have full disclosure on Steven Kelman stock portfolio?

 

Once Haliburton and KBR relocate to Dubai it will be hard to follow any money trail.

 

The fact that our troops received cold sandwichs instead of hot meals is less than acceptable:

http://www.theroughcut.net/Articles/article22_unpaidcontractor.html