i suck at closing the deal

thanks for the site haha

there was a point where she came over to talk when i had 3 drinks in front of me. 2 long islands and a cap n coke that she just brought me not even a full minute before - i had just started on one of the long islands. so she knew i was all set for drinks at the time - which was her only job to do is to make sure people are all set with drinks, but she still came over and we chatted a bit while the place was packed. so thats when i figured it was genuine haha

 

it was genuine. if she reinitiates the chat, it's a very strong indicator of interest. 3 indicators of interest leads into qualification which leads into closing.

 

it was fun though - i just really need to tell my drunk ass "fuck it, just go for it"

then we went bowling haha. oh man, my thumb has a nice chunk of skin missing from it - i hate bowling ten pin. but it was funny watching my cousin fall on her ass a lot and launch a 10lb ball over a couple of lanes haha

 

Waitresses/Servers do flirt.. but if she was "touching" you or getting feely then she was trying to give you a hint most likely.. Im a server Im a pro at flirting to get a good tip you'd be amazed how much money the goofy lookin old men will dish out for a lil cleavage.. JUST KIDDING.. not really.. but yea...

And I know with me and most of my friends if you act like you know your going to get the number even if your bluffing your more likely to get it that some guy that shuffles his feet... confidence is amazing.. just dont over do it...sometimes if your confident enough they'll even be like well hey... and drop their digits anyways... sometimes not often but sometimes

 

Eh. I'm not a big fan of asking people out in clubs, but I wish you the best.

 

well, this is how i've changed. in the past, i hated going to clubs, i just didn't have fun. now, i dont' see the point in moping around, i just try to have fun in my own way. i may not be out on the dance floor the whole night, but i still have some fun, drink some, and if something like last night happens, then it happens. if not, thats fine too.

 

Tell her that while you are the worlds greatest lover, you promised your father on his death bed that you would cure the disease which stuck him. Now before you can lay with another woman, you must finish medical school.

Personally I don't like feeding women crap like that, but it sounds like it's worth a try.

You know why I'm joking around like that Fitz?

It summarizes my point of dealing with women. Lighten up. Go with the flow. Show interest. And chase it. If you like a woman, go after her.

Fuck consequences fitz. The only advice I can give you is follow your reckless desire, and if you see a woman who you're interested in. Let her know.

 

My advice for dealing with women is as follows.

Carpe Panties.

 

Lode's right, you gotta go with the flow and act like you don't care. Be Alpha, an Alpha male doesn't care whether or not he gets a girl because he always has one in reserve. You don't have to take that literally

 

I'm not really an alpha. I've slept with 7 women in my life.

But most of those were longer relationship. But I can tell you this. If I'm really interested in a married woman in Mexico, I would go to Mexico tomorrow.

Not because I'm letting her call the shots. I don't get into power struggles. I just go where my heart leads me. It's not the most pragmatic thing, but women respond well to reckless passion.

Again Fitz, my advice, if you like a girl, chase her. It's not always going to work out, but I believe it's better to follow that kinda instinct then to try and play the odds.

There are of fish in the sea. But you might as well be swept into a maelstrom if you find your match.

 

I think that is all very bad advice. There are women out there that know what they want and know how to approach a man and become interested if that is what she's into. It's a good idea that you didn't try and seal the deal in my opinion.

I once went to a pub with my sister - and this guy who was working the front door was an acquaintance who asked me for my phone number because he wanted to take me out bowling. And how could I say no to a cool guy who asked me out in front of my sister? It's something that you have to be comfortable with - and not everyone is comfortable with making a move at a bar or at their place of work. It's understandable and it's not always about making something happen for the sake of making it happen.

I feel way more comfortable talking to the crowd of people that show up at pubs than at clubs.

You're a handsome young man fitzy. You'll do just fine in your own element.

 

Following your hearts always good advice aristartle.

But Fitz will find his own element. I think he's just a little shy.

 

no point in beating yourself over it fitz...

going with the flow works very well...confidence is a good factor as well...

i consider myself EXTREMELY blessed to have rekindled an old flame...i love my girlfriend with all my heart...shes very beautiful, extremely intelligent, has just as sick a sense of humor as i have and despite my idiosyncracys, loves me for who i am...i can let go, be me completely and be comfortable with her...

thats what im talking about my friend...

 

yeah, shyness seems like its the problem. closing the deal is not hard at all, all you have to do is talk to her, tell her you'd like to take her out sometime, and get her phone number so you can call her, maybe introduce that first by talking about some of the recent movies playing, and see which ones you both like, then you can invite her to the movie, then your first date isnt so stressful on what to say, mostly youll be both watching a movie, and then you guys can go somewhere and talk about the movie, and then the conversation can go to about you and ask her questions about her, and etc. closed. easy as that!

 

I'm a film buff. I want to make films, and I watch a ton of movies.

But I'm not big on movies for first dates. Doesn't let you talk about much.

My perfect first date is something like ice skating and sushi. ice skatings a little physical and fun. You can grab her hand, let her know your intrested. And sushi's just cause it's good food IMHO.

I love going to see movies though. It does give you something to break the ice. Just doesn't seem like the magic I like for first dates.

I like Ghosts advice though. I'm kinda just babbling.

 

i say movie, because fitzy is shy, and it would be really helpful in breaking the ice, and not having to figure out something to say the whole date, i think thats probably why most first dates are at the movies!

 

you would take them ice skating, because your not shy with women, and thats the kind of first date that would work for you.

lol you got game! hahaha. seriously though , I can tell your not shy by your posts

 

Eh, I'm just trying to give my friend Fitz what's worked for me.

It won't nessecarily work for him. Go with the flow was my first advice, which bascially negates the rest of my advice ironically.

But Fitzy's an atheltic really nice guy. He's got a lot to offer.

 

just confidence. and if you dont got it, FAKE IT

 

Some people get faking confidence all wrong and are just insecure dicks though.