Speaking Truth?

Hello hipforumers!
Im new around here and not very experienced with our psychedelic friends. I have done L a couple of times and mushrooms a couple more. Yesterday me and my friend each did 4 hits of acid . I was at his place and we were sitting in his balcony on the cold, just staring at the sunset. The sky was like melting pink taking over the blue, the progression from day to night was beautiful and just the cars passing by, traffic lights and the street lights.
We had an interesting perception of time and we felt like we weren't a part of it, that we were standing from the outside, until there was no longer IN/OUT, just a middle ground where everything merged, and it was just this ONE thing and confusing. We sat on the floor because my friend started freaking out a little after certain time, so I was just sitting in front of him and talking to him through it, he then calmed down and we were just chillin, not talking much. I was in my own world and I knew he needed silence for awhile.
He got very emotional and started talking about his feelings, a lot of it took me by surprise. We've been close friends for a couple of years now and I really had no idea of this. Do you think what a friend tells you during tripping time is true? or is it psychedelic rambling?

 

The 3 directions of time are One thing, it is your perception of change
and inability (no offence, very few people have this ability and those
of us here tend to have it during an LSD trip, just like you) to concieve
the limitless eternity of thought. Intuition will guide you, trust in your
feeling and let go when time becomes an apparent illusion.

Well this obviously depends on the person, but if your friend was telling
you about inner feeling, emotions, problems and expectancies, etc.
chances are they are genuine and your are a good friend for listening.

 

No offense taken. I'll remember this next time I go to the circus :tongue:

I never mind listening to my friends, though sometimes it turns out to be quite confusing. I'll let him be and maybe sober him will want to talk about the same things?

 

Maybe, hard to say, especially since i dont know what he was saying
and the little I know about him other than that he is your friend
Listening is always a blessing and makes people feel loved. To be able
to remain silent and allow yourself to absorb the energy a person is
giving out by talking in my opinion defines friendship.

 

I agree, not many people really do that. I always get the pretenders listeners (I just made that up)
Well, my friend is moving away soon and he was talking about me going with him, but not like me and you should go, but more like US, in this romantic scenery. I wasnt TOO surprised, but it's weird for me to keep being my normal self after his love declaration, he is being his normal self.It was just yesterday.
I think this time I'll pretend I didnt listen, if at all possible :tongue:

 

Don't pretend. Be yourself. Do you want that love or just friendship? Don't play the games with anyone. Giving false hope can hurt even more. I did that and let me tell you I was hurt even more than that person. It hurt me cause I was not completly honest and because of that I hurt that person. Well it's a life lesson. I don't know. Maybe you should have that lesson and I'm interrupting....

 

I would never give false hope to any person, I didnt mean to come across like that when I said I was going to pretend I didnt listen.
I feel that if he's not comfortable talking about this while sober, I shouldnt bring it up. That's why Im ignoring it and that's why I asked if this really is how he feels, it could potentially be being overwhelmed by the feeling of love while on acid and nothing more. I dont think Im supposed to act upon it, but I was wondering if others had similar experiences with friends or lovers. I know that I cant lie to myself or anyone under the effects of any psychedelic, but are sometimes these words of truth only true during these altered realities?

 

I used to think people are at their more honest, vulnerable and exposed moments when on psychedelics, because they are able to go deep inside and dig in, but I dont know anymore. APPARENTLY is not like that, although Im not sure if I believe that.

 

cloudy, i think you should enlighten us as to what was so shocking about what he said?

 

I already said StonerBill , he just went on this picture perfect description of us being together and I've always liked him, but I've also always ignored that, because he's my best friend and I love him. I dont know if trusting what he said is the best thing for me to do.

 

cloudy - i think that you and your friend need to sleep together.

 

He was probably being honest. There is a chance he exaggerated his feelings due to being on LSD, but I'm sure there was at least some truth to his statement. If you are such good friends, you should just ask him about it. It sounds like a beautiful relationship might be in your future

 

umm it doesnt sound like the best relationship - it sounds like you put him in the 'just friends' basket, abeit a very close friend who you can open up to, not someone you want having their penis inside you.

but if you think hes cute then yeh, take him seriously. but think of it this way - just because he told you doesnt mean you need to act any differently around him - he felt this way before he told you, so he is clearly up for having aplutonic relationship with you, even if he loves you. but.. now that you know, you need to consider whether you want to string him along anymore.

it really is painful to invest a lot in someone only to tell them and for them to just want to be friends.

but yeh, dont do the whole 'he wasnt speaking teh truth' thing, this dude sounds for real. the worst thing you can do is treat him like his words arent meaningful when they could infact be the most meaningful things of all

 

As everybody before said... What he said is truth and maybe he is unable to say it when he is not under influence of lsd. It's up to you to bring that subject up during the "normal" days. And as I said stay true. Do you want him just as a friend or it can be something more? Telling him that you want him just as a friend can be very painfull but looking at it on a long term it's better option.

 

I know how I feel for him and although he's my best friend, there has always been something more there, I guess I also kept those feelings repressed.
When he talked, it did sounded like we really do share the same feelings. We really have a weird relationship and I think our problem has always been that neither of us can really admit what we really feel. We have slept together a couple of times, always on crazy nights, it has been great, but then we somehow manage to make a joke about it and pretend like nothing happened.The whole thing is pretty odd, but we have always cared a little too much and been a little too close to each other.
So I guess we should cut the crap and stop lying to ourselves? I dont know, I'm hanging out with him later on today. He said he has a present for me, (presents are always some kind of mind altering substance). Maybe I'll talk to him when he comes over.

 

thats some heavy shit. good luck.

 

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=nxoNl4Cjlhg

 

ok wait...cloudy, are you a girl? j.w because for some reason i got it in my head that you were a guy.

 

yeh i did for a while too

 

haha you guys thought I was a dude?! Im a girl