Do you think that the use of psychedelics enhances our physic abilities? I've definitely experiences some vivid imagery while tripping to later see it happening, and by later I mean days, weeks, months... Also this is not something that happens only while tripping, it's like all of a sudden I can see all the interconnections of the web and it's really easy for me to see what's going to happen next. I must say, I dont always like to know and I do wonder, what is the purpose of us receiving this data in advance? I usually let things unfold exactly as they were presented to me, but am I supposed to do something more than that? Interfere? I think the reason why I never say/do anything until it's already happening it's because I dont completely trust my intuition and I get into the let's wait and see. It's just sometimes it feels like the reason why I learn about these things is not for me to wait and see, but I have no idea about what I should do. What are your thoughts on the matter?
psychedelics are a great way to fine tune your psychic abilities. we must learn to trust our intuition. sounds like that is exactly what you are doing - learning why you should trust your instincts is part of the process.
They do enhance intuition, no doubt about it. And in ways that once when it happened on mushrooms to me was SO advanced that I thought I was creating reality and was not in control of my thoughts or actions, and I was watching reality unfold in perfect detail for what made up several minutes worth of time, and was unable to stop myself from following through with the happenings. That was the only trip in my life when I truly had the fear of at first death, and later of pure insanity. I thought I was dreaming and the only way to stop it and wake up was if something so out of the ordinary happened that I was scared awake, and I started planning on robbing a store or killing someone, killing myself, etc. VERY weird! :tongue:
It's just sometimes you always let doubt creep in, because is not a "normal" concept to know what's going to happen next, so we usually ignore it. I'm starting to pay close attention to it and not let it slide, but is just difficult to know how Im supposed to act about certain things now that I "know" this. Sometimes they just show me a different face of people and situations, but I usually do not know how to approach people about this. Should I even say anything? but if I dont, isnt that wrong?
I found myself once in a similar situation. I sat on the basement of the building, next to the mail boxes, it felt like a "safe" place. Considering i never go there and there was no possible way, I would encounter any of my friends or anything, nothing ever happens there, so nothing would happen there.
It's a pecuilar predicament. I'm still trying to figure it out perfectly myself. But I do know one thing for sure. You need to develop a means to balance your state of "knowing" with what you say to people. Many people cannot comprehend how such a thing is possible. You need to remember your mind is functioning at a level that others merely cannot comprehend. Some newagians would say you have a 4 or 5 dimensional mind, while others still have a 3 dimensional mind. Which, that is a metaphor to -it-, it's not really 3, 4 or 5 dimensions. But if you were to go off that metaphor. You need to begin to recognize when your running in 4th of 5th dimension levels of comprehension. Then when your trying to explain it people who can only see the 3rd dimension, you must translate it. Inherently thats what all the greatest psychadellic philosopher did and became good at. Mckenna, Leary, Anton Wilson there natural talent was being able to transcribe 4th and 5th dimensional modes of comprehension to the 3rd dimension. Lately in my meditation I've been practicing switching between the modes. Remember, it's not really 3rd 4th and 5th dimension, thats just a collective metaphor that has developed. But I do notice there are 3 notable modes. There is the old mode of you thinking "I need to do this, this and this, because of this", where you will think out everything in words, thats 3d. Then there is another mode of where instead of thinking of what to do, you merely feel, you merely know you need to do these certain things, you can feel where such actions will lead, it's like you can percieve the flow of time directly, thats 4d. Then the last one is, you feel the flow of time, you know it. But then instead of you using it to rationally deduce what to do 3D style. You merely flow with it, you merely allow. Like you just observe your 4 dimensional being externally and watch what it does, that is the 5d mind. Now if you can begin to recognize to which mode your thoughts and perceptions belong to. Then you can learn how to better translate one to the other and back in certain situations. I guess in short, should you interfere? As long as you do it properly. How do you know if you doing it properly? Well, just as you can feel the time, you can also feel if your doing it properly. Recognize if your 'interferring' if your 'telling others what to do' is something that is flowing from your 3rd, 4th or 5th dimensional conciousness. Because I found that when I would try to interfere in such a manner. Alot of the time it was all running in my 3rd dimensional mode of conciousness and in the 3rd dimension is where your ego resides. So it was like I had developed an ego of "knowing" and then used my ego to tell people what to do. That is not correct, you need to essentially channel it from the 5th dimensional mind down to the 3rd. You shouldn't have to conciously think about how to interfere. If your trying to find the words or the actions of what to say, typically that means your not channeling purely from your higher concious states but are using your ego-state of "I know" to feel like you should. Just don't think about it, just observe, if an opportunity arises where your words or actions could actually aid someone, then it will just happen as long as your ego is not there. I also had a friend once who would always draw. Draw pictures of people and back when I first met him, I just thought he was a good artist. But then after developing my intuitions better and going back and looking at some of the sketches he did in my book I could clearly tell that yes, he was percieving aspects of me and others that I didn't at the time. Like he was channeling his higher mind into drawings and everyone loves looking at drawings, so it was a way for him to share that aspect of himself without others becoming perturbed. but even all those metaphors might make you a little crazy if you believe them to much. The only single metaphor I hold without change is one from Leary, "trust your nervous system"
I think that translation is a wonderful skill. I certainly dont always have it and Im usually trying to get an idea accross that to me is very simple, yet abstract and when I get that look from people, I usually give up because I know we are not understanding each other. I in no way think Im in a higher dimension than anyone, but with certain people is like Im talking a whole different language. While with others I feel they are reading the thoughts that are on my mind. Like right now I understand so perfectly well what you are speaking of. It's not something I have practiced but something I have felt and it's very intense, sometimes it freaks me out, I guess is all too new to me. I think experiencing this has a lot to do with being completely receptive and that can be slightly uncomfortable because you can ne overwhelmed the energy that is around you. Whenever I feel this, I go first into the state of what is going? and am I going crazy? ...but then after I quiet my mind there's a feeling that I've just been handed in an important piece of information that will help me later on. On Monday night I experienced this more strong than I ever had before, it all started with me being outside of my usual spot and having the opportunity to watch something on tv from all places on a show I never watch and my roommate happened to be watching, it turned out to work for me as a revelation of my own life and along with that came other data, that I was able to connect together and I found myself filled with an inmense sadness, because I already knew the answers to the questions I never asked (but intended too, just the opportunity never came). I had all this thoughts on my mind and the next day something different than what I thought happened, but the connection was still the same. It was just a weird chain of events, not of my liking, but a very interesting sequence. I dont know what the OP meant by interferring, but whenever I experience something like that I just want to share it or discuss it with the person who it involves, but I usually stop myself from doing so out of insecurity and because is either really weird or something that could cause a bit of conflict. I sometimes have the very bad habit of avoiding conflict with people I love, I do think there's a specific moment to react to these "premonitions" and if I dont, there's nothing more to do than to let go, because Im hanging on to something that's not there and that's a very foolish thing to do.
One time at a party we were all in a back yard, and there was a rumor the cops were coming, so i said, "We have to run the line" The line being running straight into the feild and finding a place to hide, and me tripping out, i ran the line, found a bush and layed down. After ten minutes i went back, and shortly after that, cops did come and we all ran the line. I almost always have an ability to know when the phones going to ring or when someones at the door and what not. Kind of just a habit.
Feel that energy. You are just like a "puppet" and it pulls the strings. Let it flow and you'll do perfectly well. If you let your ego be in the way that's where you can go wrong. It just needs some practice.
No of course, I do not feel higher at all either. Thats actually why I specifically note that the 3rd, 4th and 5th dimension thing is merely just metaphor. It is a metaphor thats developing in some newage circles. But the reason you give there is actually the reason I don't like it much and always note that it is metaphor, it's not literally a higher dimension of being above others as it insinuates. I wish someone would develop some better terminology for it. I've been thinking about reversing the direction. You start at 3rd dimension like before. Then 2nd dimension perception is where you feel time. Then 1st dimension perspective is where you merely observe and allow yourself to flow with it. Cause being able to flow with it is where you develop that sort of feeling of singular human conciousness, like there is just one, one dimension. But eh.. I dunno. even thats not so good. I think it might be best actually to describe it some Hindu terminology. Like allowing yourself is being able to maintain to a degree a state of samadhi. Percieving all of time is a state of Dhyana. But thats even harder to explain to people. I dunno, maybe after 2012 we won't need metaphors for it?
rygoody, I love everything you have said. Very wise words, I dont have the time right now to properly reply to it, but I promise that I'll do so as soon as I can. This thread got way interesting , Thank you everyone!