i made a bet today.

starting tomorrow, i am giving up weed for one month to prove that it is not addictive, and that i can go without it. i'm getting really fucked up tomorrow and then i'm not going to smoke weed until december 15th, and see if i have any adverse effects. i am going to do some other stuff during this time, it's just to prove ganja is not addictive. i'll post further develepoment here. wish me luck!

 

Will you be urine tested or something at the end of this?

 

that wouldnt prove cannabis is unable to bring about addictive behavior patterns. it would demonstrate you have not developed an addictive relationship with cannabis.

 

but good luck anyway. a break can be a good thing!

 

I am mentally addicted.

 

no, i'm not going to be urine tested, and i know it wouldn't prove cannabis isn't addictive, it's showing i can live without it.

i think i might try some of that spice shit though, or do acid or shrooms on the weekends to tide me over. it's funny how giving up weed leads to worse drugs.

 

You should throw everyone for a loop and go a month and a couple days. Because you know everyone is going to be watching how you react the second that month is over. They will expect you to dive back in and smoke a shit ton of pot. If you act like its no big deal and just lightly transition back into it it will hammer the point home.

But in all reality its not really proving its not addictive if there is a finish line in sight.

 

that's a good idea...

 

acid and mushrooms aren't worse, but can lead to unpleasant experiences in some individuals. from a physiological standpoint they are, if anything, safer than marijuana.

and its well known and documented that marijuana is not physically addictive, but like with many behaviors smoking pot can cause psychological dependence.

in this regard smoking spice gold or trying other drugs since you are no longer smoking pot simply reinforces the idea that you may have a psychological dependence. if you want to prove you aren't dependent on pot, you dont go looking for alternatives, you just stay sober in general....

 

yeah, except i don't really want to stay sober. the dude i ma with is convinced weed is addictive, that's why it's that drug in particular and not everything.

 

weed IS addictive. and the reasons for the break are conflicting.

you say its to prove that you aren't addicted, not to prove that weed isn't addictive.

then you say its to prove that weed itself isnt addictive, rather than to prove you aren't addicted. and while you want to prove you aren't addicted, you dont care about not staying sober...which reinforces both the idea that marijuana IS potentially addictive AND that you have a problematic relationship.

i'm not trying to make you feel bad, you're just changing up the logic here and there. i'm not trying to put you down or make you feel bad or anything. lord knows i have a dependant relationship with cannabis, yet i function rather decently overall in life. but it IS potentially addictive to a large number of people, even if the dependance is psychological and not physical, and it seems from the posts like you are trying to prove two things that don't sound true:

that marijuana isnt addictive
that you aren't addicted to marijuana

if you're trying to prove you don't have an addiction, stay sober or dont bother, because you aren't fooling anyone. substitution certainly shows that you can restrain yourself from smoking actual pot, but also demonstrates a desire for pot and a lingering habit and compulsive behavior, an addiction.

some people manage to quite smoking cigarettes and shooting heroin, both of which produce substantial chemical addiction. not everyone can, but some can muster up enough restraint to keep from doing it long enough to effectively break the habit.

taking a break from pot and doing other drugs to fill the void isnt very indicative of not being addicted to it, even if its not a chemical addiction or as devastating an addiction as heroin can be.

it sounds to me like youve at least got some level of addiction, whether you admit it or not, and whether or not its as serious as a devestating physical addiction like with opiates...

but why try to go about proving things to other people that you virtually admit to be untrue? if you dont want to stay sober, you dont want to stay sober. maybe you can still function. maybe not. but thats a VERY dependant attitude to take, and you aren't fooling anybody....you're not gonna convince this person that pot isnt harmful by giving it up temporarily while you use other drugs instead that either intend to mimic cannabis or are also illegal

 

okay, to make it clear, the bet is that i can stop using weed for a month to prove that it's not addictive because i don't belive it is, i personally believe a mental habit can be broken. however, i will use other substances because yeah, drugs are what gets me through life-the point is, i'm not going to CRAVE weed when i don't have it, regardless of how i cope with it. and i've decided i'm going to try to stay completely sober, but i know that i probably won't, because as i said before, life can be shitty, and drugs are, among other things, a way to deal with that. the point is that it doesn't have to be weed. and yeah, i guess i am mentally addicted, the point is i'm not going to get shakes or anything because i don't have my pot fix. say what you will, but the point of the bet was not "can you not do ANY drugs for a month?" it was that he's convinced i'll have withdrawal symptoms, he thinks weed's as bad as coke or some shit.

 

without a drug test, how will this kid for sure you weren't smoking up on the sly?

 

because we've known each other for years and he knows i wouldn't lie to him.

 

so i guess he won't really know for sure, but he trusts me.

 

Then why even bother with the bet?

 

One time, i had a 14 cigarettes left and some hot friend of mine didnt like the fact that i smoked butts. I told her i smoke them occasionally but today i bought a pack, and she really thought i was addicted and didnt believe me. So i said "alright, ill prove it". So i crush every single ciggartte in front of her and smashed my only bic on the pavement. I havent smoked butts since then, and its fun bragging to her about it.

 

I'm impressed, but there are kids without cigarettes in Africa.

 

cannabis is psychologicly addictive, thats why its easy to quit for some ppl and hard for others

 

im addicted to being not sober. it sucks.