Sign Legalization Petition Link

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/346748080

and ps- listen folks, a little moderation never hurt anybody, some of the threads on this site make those who would be for legalization look BAD, and don't waste your time backbiting me because I don't care about anyone who puts out nasty vibes, just consider this a word to the wise, for the young'ins to get a firmer grasp on reality, so that one day our dreams really can be reality, and also: google rastafarian, wikipedia it too, its a great lifestyle, it was the only spirituality that ever truly appealed to me, and it is not a religion it is a way of life. peace.

 

thank you for posting this link amber...I have signed and sent it on to my friends

cuz of the relevance of this issue...especially here at hips...I am going to make this a sticky...if this is a problem Skip...well you can un stick it

 

Legalize Marijuana!!! I'm writting a persuasive essay about it right now in my junior english class haha. keep it real.
-420-

 

why does the deadline say 2002?

i doubt they are going to legalize marijuana anytime soon.

the people running the show are alcholic bible beaters essentially...

this petition is sketchy in and of itself.

it's not bringing up backed proof and references at all.

the saying that "according to surgeon general's studies marijuana has not killed anyone"

that seems a bit misleading i do believe.
while being less lethal than other legal things i believe marijuana has had a hand in some deaths, not being the complete cause of it, just like alchohol.

the petition idea while being a great idea that i back is not being used to it's potential whatsoever with this particular petition.

good luck next time

 

The messages expounded by the Rastafari promote love and respect for all living things and emphasize the paramount importance of human dignity and self-respect.

I could be a rastafarian if only I was black and lived in Jamica. There is wisdom there and truth.

I am more and less than Jah

There is no welcome for me there for I walk my own path.

I speak of Hope, the words of truth are Life, love and freedom

You have to fight for life and freedom, I'll take care of the love

 

LOl what a coincidence......

Legalize it pettition in the SMOKE signals forum!

 

People there is a presidential candidate who wants to legalize RON PAUL! He has a real chance of winning and has huge grass root support! Here is an interview with him on NORML
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8t7jqis2Mc

Please help get this man elected donate at www.ronpaul2008.com

 

Did you know the ld50 (meaning the dose that kills 50% of people) is actually higher in potatos then weed? Caffiene is more dangerous then weed. Alcohol has been the complete cause in alot of deaths weed has never. No one has ever overdosed on cannabis.

 

did you read anything that i said at all?
or are you just trained to spout out pro cannabis banter?

 

Right now, we have tens of thousands more-or-less hippy families
around the country and world making a living growing the wonder
weed in their backyards, basements, and nearby public lands.

(sure, a lot of it comes from organized crime, but not all by any
means)

These people make decent livings and they don't pay taxes that
support multinational corporations and wars....These are people
that for the most part we _want_ to support.

Generally, the quality is good.

What happens if it's legalized? The corporations take over, the
price goes up, it's taxed like crazy and all those taxes go to
multinational corporations and the war machine.

The profits go to investors and poor people are exploited to
grow and process the buds.

Chemicals are used extensively in growing and processing the
product and a whole lot of cool people are put out of work.

Who cares whether it's legal or not? What's "legal" mean, anyway?
A bunch of assholes who think they have a right to run the world
get together and write a law on a piece of paper and hire a bunch
of thugs with guns to enforce their wishes.

I know that a lot of people think that if it was legalized that hemp
is going to save the world, but that's just wishful thinking based
on ignorance.

If we were to try to run all the vehicles on hemp oil and make all
our paper from hemp fiber you'd have to plant nothing but
hemp on half or more of the agricultural land in the country.

And you can grow other oilseed and fiber plants, legally, that
will work just as well as hemp for the same purposes.

Marijuana is legal in my world. I don't care what a bunch
of fascists write on a piece of paper. I've been enjoying
this wonderful plant for a lotta years. Bad laws written
by corrupt people are meant to be evaded.

We the people have decided that's it's legal and so it
is, in every sense that matters.

Littlefoot

 

I think the legit argument for legality is not based on the factor that we all want to smoke it(a legit argument, that is.) but based on the fact that a big chunk of the jail population is based on marijuana-based crimes.

legalize marijuana, less people in jail that turn from pot head to possible long time criminal.

i've heard jail can lead you to worse shit in the drug world anyway...

 

Yo Mouse here!!!


:huh: What I don't get is in the UK it is Legal to smoke "Salvia"??? While it's Illegal to smoke Herb. I just don't understand?


Peace!!!:sunny:

 

You're absolutely right! We should get rid of laws. If I want to kill someone for no reason, it should be my right! Theivery? My right! Rape? My right! Here's the big one- child molestation? My right! We can't let those "corrupt" lawmakers and their "thugs" stop us! I wanna kill someone, and god dammit, I shouldn't be punished for it!

If you are the half-wit you sound like, you might not understand. That was sarcasm.

 

:jester:lol!!!!!

one way of getting your point through.


PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :sunny:

 

Confucious, it's nice to see someone with some genuine faith in his fellow man...

 

Confucius lol wrote:

"You're absolutely right! We should get rid of laws. If I want to kill someone for no reason, it should be my right! Theivery? My right! Rape? My right! Here's the big one- child molestation? My right!"

If you need laws to tell you that you shouldn't do those things, then
you are in very sad shape.

We have laws against all of them, and have they stopped those obviously
immoral acts from taking place? Nope.

"We can't let those "corrupt" lawmakers and their "thugs" stop us! I wanna kill someone, and god dammit, I shouldn't be punished for it!"

No. You shouldn't do it in the first place.

If you need lawmakers to threaten you with punishment to keep you
from killing people, then you are, I repeat, in very sad shape.

"If you are the half-wit you sound like, you might not understand. That was sarcasm."

Aren't you cute.

Littlefoot

 

Hey littlefoot...what planet are you living on? Because it sure as hell can't be the Earth I know. You're living in a dream world, man!

Sure it would be nice of no one wanted to commit rapes, etc...and obviously a normal person SHOULDN'T need a law to tell them it's wrong.

But in your perfect society that you seem to be living in, what would you have happen to those that did commit such horrible acts?

 

I guess I wasn't clear enough. Anyone who is so far gone that they need the threat
of dire punishment to keep them from committing obviously immoral acts isn't going
to let that threat stop them. And it doesn't. They all think they can get away with it
and an awful lot do. I believe that more than 1/2 of the murders in this country go
unsolved forever.

We can have a much better society, but only if we quit sanctioning violations
of morality. Killing is wrong and it should never be done by anyone.

But it's perfectly okay in this society, under a wide variety of circumstances,
to kill people. The most common is to wear a uniform and do the killing in
another country. Or to wear a uniform here and kill people.

We kill people in cold blood in our prisons.

We finance and arm and train despots around the world who slaughter
people on a regular basis.

Once you've decided that's okay to kill people because they have done
something you don't like or have something you want, like oil, then
where does it end?

It takes no great leap of reasoning in a society like this to justify killing
another American who has done your wrong or is threatening you or
has something you want.

We do it as a people. Regularly. Visciously. And almost always to people
who are much weaker than we are and of another race.

We finance it. It's our taxes that make it happen.

People say that it is necessary to kill others who are trying to kill you, that
fire must be fought with fire.

That's not true. First of all, it isn't fire, per se, that's a problem. No one
calls 911 if the gas stove is working properly. That statement should
read "wildfire must be fought with wildfire". Uncontrolled fire is the problem,
not plain fire.

And wildfire is never fought with wildfire. It is sometimes fough, indirectly
with controlled fires, to remove fuel from its path.

When you have a wildfire at your home and call 911, the big red or yellow
firetrucks don't come equipped with banks of flamethrowers, they come
with water.

There is nothing in the real world that is effectively fought with itself. You
don't rain on the rain. You get under cover or raise an umbrella or put on
a raincoat.

The "fire with fire" myth is simply a cover for imperialism. Guns and the
like are not defensive tools. Shields of all kinds are defensive tools.
Guns and the like are offensive tools.

Our Department of Defense is really the Department of Offense.
A person doesn't have a gun to defend themselves. They have a gun
to dominate others with violence, which can be used to discourage
attackers but it can't be used to create Peace.

And if your real motive is defense you don't choose an offensive tool.

I'm not living in a dream world. I don't have any weapons. I'll send you
my address. I've got several thousand dollars here saved up over years
and years. My emergency stash.

Come and try to take it. You won't succeed and you'll have a very, very
bad time.

But you'll survive and you won't be maimed for life.

And you won't come back again.

And I won't have to worry about your friends and relatives trying to
get even with me for killing or maiming you.

I don't live in a dream world. You do. You think that police officers and
courts and prisons and laws protect you.

But the police will only get involved _after_ the crime is committed.

Isn't that just dandy? After you're dead they will try to find and punish
your killer.

But they can't do one thing to stop it from happenning in the first place.
And all the killers know that they have a 50-50 chance. In fact, only
the dumb ones get caught.

I don't expect the police to protect me. They can't do it. It's up to me.

And I am not going to let some criminal turn me into a criminal too.

LIttlefoot

 

Ok, I agree with what you said here: "But they can't do one thing to stop it from happenning in the first place.
And all the killers know that they have a 50-50 chance. In fact, only
the dumb ones get caught.

I don't expect the police to protect me. They can't do it. It's up to me.

And I am not going to let some criminal turn me into a criminal too."



It's true...I DON'T count on the system to keep me safe. I mean, they do their best to stop murders and violent acts but of course they can't stop them all.

But you didn't answer the main question that I was asking...all I really wanted to know was, let's say hypothetically that YOU are the supreme lord and master over the U.S. with full authority. What would YOU do to those who decide to steal, harm, or murder others?

 

Thanks, Michael.

First of all, I'd make sure that everyone was trained, starting in grade school,
in non-brutal defensive strategies and tactics and tools. Not just hand-to-hand,
but all phases of self-protection. All kinds of shields.

In this society most people can't protect themselves because they think
that the two choices available to them are passive-resistance and brutality.

When people learn that they can protect themselves effectively without
resorting to brutality, they cease to be victims and don't help to create
an atmosphere of fear where criminals can prosper.

Secondly, for those who did transgress, or attempted to, they need to
be healed. And so do the people in their lives that helped to make
them what they are.

Some of the Native Americans know this. When they deal with crime
in their communities, the whole community takes the responsibility
for it.

Seeds only grow and flourish in suitable soil and a suitable climate.

In extreme case that healing might involve isolating the individual
and even their family, for a while, but not as punishment.

Where we really need to begin to make these changes is to learn
to see that all apparent evil is the result of ignorance.

People do really bad things because they think they have no choice.

We need to teach ourselves and everyone that we can have good lives
without harming other people, either personally or indirectly through
institutions like the military.

We have to get over the Darwinian ideas that Nature is based on
competition. It isn't.

That's a crude outline. I'd welcome refinements.

Littlefoot

"The greatest fine art of the future will be the making of a
comfortable living from a small piece of land."

-- Abraham Lincoln