buperephine

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by clash, Nov 1, 2007.

  1. clash

    clash Member

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    Dont know if i spelt that right. Just out of interest, somone i know has been given this pain killer for arthritis. Anyone know if it is a good pain killer? Shes been given the patches. I've heard it blocks out other opiods and is used for opiod addiction, dont nkow why the doc would give her this as she takes only paracetamol for her pain, whywouldnt he just give her morphine?
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  2. JahRed24

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    Thats weird cuz they don't usually prescribe Buprenorphine (aka Suboxone and Subutex in the U.S.) for pain.. Because they evven say that Bupe will give no pain-relief, and trust me i know cuz i am/was on it... I was takin the Suboxone tablets that come in 2mg and 8mg sublingual tablets. I've heard bout the new Buprenorphine patch thats out but i thought it was only available over in other countries...? but yeah dr. should not be prescribing bupe for pain, bupe is only useful in opiate addiction.
     
  3. Verisimilitude

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    stay clear of the bupo. As Jah said, no pain relief. I have arthritis.. And I would never let her prescribe me that.
     
  4. Shocbomb

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    Actually Methadone is a great long term pain killer because the half life is so dam long. I know a few people who have tried alot of different pain killers and say methaodne helped them the best for there severe pain. The Doc will usally give Methadone and another Opiate pain killer for brake threw pain.
     
  5. Verisimilitude

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    Methadone is not the same as suboxone
     
  6. Shocbomb

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    I never said it was ? All I said is it was a good long term pain killer for severe pain !!!

    Also clash asked why they don't just give Morphine, Doctors never give out Morphine unless the patient is in a hospital setting or have horrible debilitating
    pain, Such as Cancer patients where the cancer is eating away at the bone and nerves, 3rd degree burn patients, a amputation etc You have to have some real bad ass pain to get Morphine.
     
  7. JahRed24

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    ummm no dude theres A LOT of chronic pain patients that get prescribed morphine. It comes in the brand name pills called 'MS Contin' . And also Morphine is actually a pretty shitty drug unless its IV'd, hydrocodone will get u higher then oral morphine...morphine just plain sucks, ask any person thats into opiates they will all say the same thing - "Morphine sucks" ... The bioavailability of morphine oral and intra-nasally is very very very low...Oxycodone is probably the best opioid pharm..
     
  8. clash

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    Thanx for the info. Im actually in australia, so mabye thats what they give out here for arthritis. ANyway she has really bad pain and cant walk and they just keep telling her to take panadol (acap?) so now she has this patch but yeah i was wondering why hed give that to her as its for opiate addiction and this is 4 quite and elderly woman. Anyway thanx.
     
  9. Shocbomb

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    JahRed24- I am not going to get in a Opiate argument with you but MS Contin is not pure morphine sulfate its a synthetic time released morphine. It is not nearly as potent as pure of liquid Morphine? and to say that hydrocodone is better then Morphine there must be something wrong with the way you feel your opiate high. Morphine blows hydrocodone away !!! I can't belive you think that Hydrosodone is a better high ??? Liquid Morphine is second to none only to Herion , even 5mg and 10mg Morphine pills kick your ass.
     
  10. MsManson

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    Not in Australia JahRed. Bupe is one of the only things that works for me for pain as I got a Naltrexone implant in August for a bigass oxy addiction. It says on my card "The holder of this card is on the Naltrexone Implant Program. Morphine and other opiates will not work for pain relief. Buprenorphine, Torodol or Regional blocks can be used" It really works too cos when I fucked my ankle up, my boyfriend (who is on Suboxone Program) shared his dose with me for a few days, and yeah it worked good for the pain. 4mg got me nice and stoned too ;)

    I'm guessing that because bupe is only a partial opiate agonist, therefore less addictive than morphine etc that may be why the Dr opted to prescribe it instead of morph or oxy.
     
  11. Alk3IsBliss

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    Actually, Burprenorphine is being prescribed more and more for chronic pain now days. The doctors prefer it, obviously, because it's a very weak opiate. It does help some people, but in my experience it was worthless. It just depends on your situation, though. It has naloxone in it, which is supposed to block other narcotics, but like I've said it's fairly easy to override.
     
  12. Alk3IsBliss

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    Seriously? Methadone? I found it to be pretty worthless, but maybe it might work for people with mild pain.



     
  13. MsManson

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    The naloxone isn't absorbed by your body unless you mainline it.
     
  14. Alk3IsBliss

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    Yes, the naloxone does have poor bioavailability when taken sublingually, but small amounts do still get into the bloodstream.



     

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