http://media.putfile.com/Commercial-Free-Thom-Hartman-911-Debate-Ryan-vs-Shermermp3 Please post your opinions on this matter ONLY after you've listened to the entire program. This aired on Nov. 8th, 2007 on Air America Radio. There's an especially cogent caller who speaks the way every 9/11 truth activist should speak when trying to convince defenders of the official story: quick, confident, and lucid. It's at 39 minutes into the program. Shoc, I dare you to listen to it.