What I actualy wanted to say is that in this, lets call it dimension, you are limited with our 5 sences and time, when you expirience something like you described Relayer, you start using different "means" of comunication with everything that surround you. When you went throught what you desribed, you started using new feelings (I'll call them like that so its more understandable), you said that all organs shut down one by one, basicaly your 5 sences were shut down, you got rid of the body and started another way of comunication, witch allows you to comunicate with entities that do not know (or they just don't want) to comunicate through our 5 sences. Since that happened to you only once, you were very supprised and didn't have much time to understand what type of comunication you were using, you are still not aware of those feelings. But if you do that more times, you slowly start to learn what you are feeling and slowly you learn how to control and use it and how to express yourself not using our common 5 sences.. What is very important is NOT TO FORGET TO REMEBER those feelings when you are not on drugs. Than through meditation, or whatever mind control and purification, you can start feeling them even without drugs. When you acoplish this, you will be able to comunicate and feel those other entities all the time. Than there is no their world or ours, you become part of both (I will say both, but there is much more) worlds, or realities, or dimensions.... As I said it can not be said by words, as words are part of our 5 sences. It is very important as I already said, to implement what you learned on drugs in normal life. I didn't also mean that I am higher then others and simmilar bulshit, I was just trying to tell you what I just explained now. So when I said you didn't learn well or enough, I wanted to say that you need to face your fears, follow the love and understand those new feelings and how to use them all the time. I always also give telephaty as an example, because that is one of new feelings that most of you felt only on drugs (group of people having the same trip), when you understand fully how that feeling is working, you can accomplish it even when you are completely sober. And there is much, much more of those feelings. I hope I made it little more clear what I wanted to say before. Much love for all of you and
Shapeshifter, you made it clear here what you are trying to get across, but this advice is not exactly what Im in need of, though it is nice you typed all of this for others who may be in need to read. When you say that this only happened to me once so it was new, yes, I agree in one sense, that this only happened 'in extreme (and I mean, extreme) amounts of pain' once. When you said in the other thread that mushrooms are more for kids (I know what you meant) and that we dont know acid until we 'die', trust me I've been there. I dont feel the need to prove myself online, but Im letting you know that I am well aware of ego-death, merging into the realms of pure energy. However, what you said about mushrooms tends to lead one to gather that you have only taken full, or lets say heroic, perhaps? doses of LSD, but have yet to experience the full potential of magic mushrooms. The most I've ever eaten was an ounce followed by a beer bottle full of tea we brewed out in the woods during a Rainbow Gathering, and even then I had nothing close to this kind of pain. I dont like to assume, but it just seems that you dont really know just how painful and mentally testing magic mushrooms can be, even in low doses. May I ask how many times you've eaten mushrooms? For me, I've eaten acid close to 100 times, lord knows I lost count. But with mushrooms I've gone on well into the hundreds and while my balance of the two is off and I may be biased in my opinion here, I still say that mushrooms will rip your head apart in ways LSD cant even touch. What I described there was going beyond the entites, to the source, beyond Brhama, beyond kutastha chaitanya, into the permeating Light, if you can dig.
I am happy to hear that you are getting what I am trying to say. I also know what you mean by going in to realms of pure energy,permeating Light, source, and so much more I just thought that it would be too much for plenty of people to understand that, so I stopped on basics. You are also right about shrooms, I didn't use much of them, and even when I used them, I found them working much better together with acid. I also don't know how much is ounce, but I know I ate 2 grams of it together with 450 ugs of acid and plenty of weed. You don't need to prove yourself to anyone, as I also don't need to do it. I was just trying to give some step by step guides for people who are stuck with visuals and other beginers stuff (I don't mean to disrespect anyone). I also said in one of my posts that it doesn't matter how much you use, it is important to use it not abuse it, so it really doesn't matter how many times you used anything, what matters is how you used it. So, if you say that shrooms are much more mind fuck than acid, than maybe I should eat 4 grams of it alone and see for myself. Thanks on advice by the way! Did you ever tried acid togehter with shrooms? If you did, can you tell me is it better like that or eating just shrooms, in your oppinion?
Oh yea I've eaten LSD and mushrooms together once, I took the L at around 7pm, and ate an 8th of mushrooms at around midnight, and again another 8th around 5-6am to the sunrise. It was most beautiful, one of my most pleasent trips and the anxiety caused by mushrooms was notticeably decreased. The insanity was still very much alive, and the visuals I had the night were definitley some for the record books :tongue:
So I guess you agree that it is something special. But you still didn't tell me, is it better like that, or to have just mushrooms? If you say it is better to eat just mushrooms, than I definitely need to buy plenty of it, and see for myself what you are saying. Did I have it enough by eating 2 grams, do I need to chaw more?
I would recommend you do an eight or maybe more of mushrooms before doing them together. On friday I ate 4 hits of LSD and 3 Grams of mushrooms 6 hours or so later, Its really diff. than just eating Mushrooms
Hey John I also ate 3 hits with Stay Loose on Saturday Fun stuff fun stuff, my mouth is watering to take the rest of it
nicenice! What kind was it? I had the first white on whites id seen in awhile. Im going to have to wait to get more though, I was meant to get some mushrooms on saturday but apparently tehre was anything going around so now Ive got to wait till sometime in november:&
Well, he got them in the summer and was holding, still very potent and fun. But I dont know, I had white on white this year save for one time, when it was some weird design from an idiot that didnt know what it was. It was decent stuff, but not as good as the plain ol white
Yea, I had about 30 blotters with a black background and grey/white cobblestone sort of things on them that lasted me most of the summer, but the white was definetly better
you guys are all way too smart for my brain to handle right now. but grapefruity, you have become my new favorite person to read on the forums "half of the time when you think you're thinking, you're really listening" - TM